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I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing with me or just randomly quoting me. But I've repeatedly stated that IP address is not used to detect account sharing. I mention IP address above for technical reasons having to do with how traffic analysis of this type works. If you are unaware of those technical details, then that means nothing to you, or probably means the wrong thing to you. It is just there so on the off chance someone who does this type of analysis happens to be reading, they aren't tempted to add a correction that would only complicate the discussion. All you should take from the above is: "IP addresses and other environmental information will never hang you, or exonerate you." Having different IP addresses doesn't prove the logins come from different places, and having the same IP address doesn't prove the logins come from the same place. On their own, IP addresses prove nothing.
I have multiple accounts and multiple devices. Kabam has stated that even some developers do as well. I doubt they implemented account sharing techniques that would tag their own developers, and I'm personally not afraid of being false-positive detected as well. Maybe your situation was wildly unique: I doubt many people have thirty accounts being run simultaneously. Maybe you tripped a "this can't be normal" trigger because the person managing the analysis didn't account for that possibility. But I think that's an edge case that most players don't have to worry about.
30 email of course. And 28 are almost look the same, just change a final number. So kabam also doesn’t check the emails.
I am not disagreeing with you, jut reporting Whats happened with me.
I think that I quoted more randoomly, like the rgn phc algorithm
I don't understand what you mean by "doesn't check the emails." What email is registered to which account should have no effect on account sharing detection. If you're saying that Kabam should assume that if thirty accounts are registered to similar email addresses then they should assume those accounts are never piloted, that doesn't seem logical. That would mean that if thirty people wanted to pilot each other in an alliance they could create accounts with email addresses similar to what you used and then pilot each other with impunity. That's an exploitable defect in account sharing detection.
@insaneglee If you created all 30 of your accounts, the only way one of your accounts being penalized makes sense would be if you hired a “mercenary” to play it. I’m not accusing you of doing this. From my point of view I can’t think another reason one your accounts would be penalized. As @DNA3000 explained, it is easy for Kabam to tell the difference between account sharing and players using their own account(s) from multiple devices.
I’m not an officer anymore, but when I used to recruit there were times when players had strong accounts but lacked the skills to use them. In many of these instances players had paid a mercenary to finish game content for them. Becoming Uncollected was a popular choice because for a time having an “Uncollected” title was one way of gauging players’ skills. Other reasons players seek out mercenaries include paying them to earn a “Legebds” title and grinding arena for them because they don’t have the time to grind arena themselves.
I don’t think there’s enough time in a day for one person to manage 30 accounts, but I’ve been wrong before. That would give 45-50 mins to play each account per day if you played for 24 hours without a break. If you have not given any of your 30 accounts’ information to other people to play your accounts for any reason, I would file a support ticket to see if you could determine why any of your accounts have been penalized.
That is not considered account sharing. How you would go about telling the difference is a complicated analysis question.
I guess I am horrible at wording these things but to put my thoughts as bluntly as possible, unless you're hijacking the selfie cam and using it, there is absolutely NO way to tell a different person is on a different account. If there is another way, please tell me, seriously.
IP address proves nothing. We could be sitting side by side and have radically different IP addresses for a variety of reasons. Conversely, if Kabam concluded that two logins with the same IP address can't be pilots because those accounts are in the same place then every pilot with a brain would VPN to the account holder's internet router and appear as their IP address. This capability exists for anyone that owns a cheapo $20 internet router.
There are very specific, very limited circumstances in which I would consider routeable non-RFC1918 addresses significant as a part of this kind of analysis. 99% of the time I presume that information is more likely to be misleading than illustrative.
I have much more free time now playing with 30 accounts than I play serious with just 1 account and much less stress.
That could sound strange, but I just do EQ with my stronger account and play 2 group m1 in AQ one day and AW.
Aw in 3-4 hours (1h 3x per day) is enough to run 3 groups and close to 100% all maps in AW if you are not playing AQ or another stuff.
Arena I stop almost completely. Actually I was really tired with the game, because they are affecting my job and social life.
Again, I never shared any of my accounts.
I already send a ticket and the support just sucks, but I will still trying till I got some diferent reaction. Because the modders still saying that not problema with diferents accounts in diferents devices but the support just not confirmed.
In the last time I send a picture of all my ipad, IPhone, lg, and moto Lenovo that I always use in my accounts and I waiting for some response.
Again, since I started play with those accounts, I stopped to progress fast with my strongest,but you would be surprise with how fast my weeks noobs accounts be progress in the game just playing AW and one day of m1 in AQ (and just using and opening crystals/itens when really necessary)
I also, don't understand why anyone would go to their friends house and play on their friends device. Unless they have a better device and you are doing a legend run.
When I make threads, they go platinum 1.
Only Platinum 1?
the one ultimate response from the one and only @Kabam Miike and I quote,
'we cannot be sure that if no violations had occurred, your alliance would have won that war'
With this logic, Earth is flat and screw Galileo, let's hang him...
Make a thread, don't mention / call out any alliances. Reply to that thread as much as possible to keep it visible.
I'm 100% with you that you should get the 350,000 points for each war you lost to a cheating alliance. I will help you in anyway I can. If an alliance cheated, the win (victory bonus) should by default go to the alliance that didn't cheat regardless of any other scores (ie: deaths, exploration, etc...)
how can you punish someone if you are unsure. like they say its better to let 10 guilty free than punish 1 innocent.
and if you assume the pilot uses vpn , so the original owner uses vpn too to have the same ip of the pilot? or is the pilot gonna use different vpn for different player? lets say he is pilotting a member from italy, he gonna use an ip from italy? then he logs in to a member from canada? is he gonna use an ip from canada? or are they all just gonna use the same vpn? if so.. how about new members who just joined... will they expect him to use same vpn even before joining the alliance as well?
You shouldn't. But it is possible to be sure with high degree of confidence. I've done this type of analysis before, so I know how I would do it. And I can state with authority that in this situation IP address is untrustworthy, and therefore of extremely limited value.
To be candid, I know how this works, so I'm offering the benefit of my expertise. But I'm not in any way involved with catching MCOC account sharers and I have no specific compulsion to correct other peoples wild guesses on how this works. If you think it is impossible to be sure, or if you think Kabam is looking at things I doubt they are placing a lot of weight upon, that's entirely your prerogative.
and the vpn thing if you are so expert at it, how would you do it? you said if the pilot have brains which i assume they do, will all members use same vpn or just the pilot use vpn to match the ip of the members?
you seem to be expert only at being vague lol why not enlighten us with your brilliance lol the devil is in the details after all.
As I said, there are limits to the details I'm prepared to discuss, but I've given enough details for people with sufficient technical knowledge to understand what I'm saying. Just the words "traffic analysis" answers your question for people who know how to do that. For people that don't, Google is your friend. Beyond that, if you think you can goad me into discussing more details than I'm prepared to, better than you have tried better than you.