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5* sig stone offer

BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
Incoming salty posters about the lack of awakening gem
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,734 ★★★★★
    I don't care about awakening gems. I'm just mad that Kabam is releasing these offers for such a riddiculous amount of money.
    110€? Really? I would pay 20€ for this, and I don't even spend money in this game
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    I just that kabam are, I don't know what word to use, but arrogant about how valuable their items are. It's that or they just want to put a high price on lower items to get a few people buying it. Rather than setting a good price for it and having more people buying it.
  • FlazinatorFlazinator Posts: 126
    Yeah their evaluation is always crazy on 90% of their offers.
  • JaffacakedJaffacaked Posts: 1,415 ★★★★
    Slasherx44 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter how bad the offer is we all know someone will buy this offer. Even if only 100 people buy this offer, at $100 USD per purchase, that's still $10,000 in the bank. Don't blame Kabam for these terrible offers, blame the people who continue to buy them.

    If they reduced by 50% then thousands an thousands more would have bought it
  • The_OneThe_One Posts: 2,936 ★★★★
    I'd have paid £20 max for that offer.
    For £100 I'd want a 5* crystal, a 5* gem and 100 generic stones
  • xNigxNig Posts: 7,221 ★★★★★
    The_One wrote: »
    I'd have paid £20 max for that offer.
    For £100 I'd want a 5* crystal, a 5* gem and 100 generic stones

    Lol..
  • Mpd1Mpd1 Posts: 95
    They should have sold an awakening gem 1st. After that, many more people would buy this latest offer.
  • danielmathdanielmath Posts: 4,041 ★★★★★
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    Slasherx44 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter how bad the offer is we all know someone will buy this offer. Even if only 100 people buy this offer, at $100 USD per purchase, that's still $10,000 in the bank. Don't blame Kabam for these terrible offers, blame the people who continue to buy them.

    If they reduced by 50% then thousands an thousands more would have bought it

    If this was true....they would have done that....pretty basic economics
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,872 ★★★★★
    The deal is great value, your paying to basically dupe a 5* of any choice of your own.

    Then get an additional 80 stones for random classes which is most likely able to dupe another 5*.

    I haven't got it personally because I don't need it, completed a run of LOL, not going for 100% and no point putting them on my current duped champs.

    But I think it isn't the worst deal for others if they are interested.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,872 ★★★★★
    danielmath wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    Slasherx44 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter how bad the offer is we all know someone will buy this offer. Even if only 100 people buy this offer, at $100 USD per purchase, that's still $10,000 in the bank. Don't blame Kabam for these terrible offers, blame the people who continue to buy them.

    If they reduced by 50% then thousands an thousands more would have bought it

    If this was true....they would have done that....pretty basic economics

    I think your wrong dude, Jaffa is right. I would have snapped it up at £50 just for it being a great price it would be too good to turn down, but didn't bother as I am not in desperate need and the £100 put me off, most of my alliance would be game at £50 too.

    What's more annoying is it costs the same in $ than £s... so if I moved to America I would save a bomb

  • The_OneThe_One Posts: 2,936 ★★★★
    The deal is great value, your paying to basically dupe a 5* of any choice of your own.

    Then get an additional 80 stones for random classes which is most likely able to dupe another 5*.

    I haven't got it personally because I don't need it, completed a run of LOL, not going for 100% and no point putting them on my current duped champs.

    But I think it isn't the worst deal for others if they are interested.

    How is basically duping a champ of your choice?
    There's no awakening gem, the champ has to be duped/awakened already.
  • danielmathdanielmath Posts: 4,041 ★★★★★


    If this was true....they would have done that....pretty basic economics[/quote]

    I think your wrong dude, Jaffa is right. I would have snapped it up at £50 just for it being a great price it would be too good to turn down, but didn't bother as I am not in desperate need and the £100 put me off, most of my alliance would be game at £50 too.

    What's more annoying is it costs the same in $ than £s... so if I moved to America I would save a bomb

    [/quote]

    But if you think that, then you're saying Kabam isn't trying to make as much money as they could and are intentionally doing that. That's not very smart business, and most people on here think their only goal is to maximize profits and what you're saying goes directly against that.
  • JaffacakedJaffacaked Posts: 1,415 ★★★★
    danielmath wrote: »

    If this was true....they would have done that....pretty basic economics

    I think your wrong dude, Jaffa is right. I would have snapped it up at £50 just for it being a great price it would be too good to turn down, but didn't bother as I am not in desperate need and the £100 put me off, most of my alliance would be game at £50 too.

    What's more annoying is it costs the same in $ than £s... so if I moved to America I would save a bomb

    [/quote]

    But if you think that, then you're saying Kabam isn't trying to make as much money as they could and are intentionally doing that. That's not very smart business, and most people on here think their only goal is to maximize profits and what you're saying goes directly against that.[/quote]

    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,872 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,872 ★★★★★
    The_One wrote: »
    The deal is great value, your paying to basically dupe a 5* of any choice of your own.

    Then get an additional 80 stones for random classes which is most likely able to dupe another 5*.

    I haven't got it personally because I don't need it, completed a run of LOL, not going for 100% and no point putting them on my current duped champs.

    But I think it isn't the worst deal for others if they are interested.

    How is basically duping a champ of your choice?
    There's no awakening gem, the champ has to be duped/awakened already.

    Because you can add them onto a champ and dupe them, a dupe gets 20 levels added on, so some might have a low level SL and they basically getting to dupe him again.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    Coat hanger take a deep breath in and out. Think you need to chill a bit.
  • NoobeeusNoobeeus Posts: 332 ★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    Coat hanger take a deep breath in and out. Think you need to chill a bit.
    You have zero basis to suggest I'm heated over this. I'm chill well my mouth is a little hot from the curry I just ate maybe you are picking up on that over a message board?
  • JaffacakedJaffacaked Posts: 1,415 ★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.

  • Viper1987Viper1987 Posts: 728 ★★★
    I'll say what I always say when I see these sig stone offers. We need awakening gems first to use these. Or dupe a good 5* (not HB and Rhino thrice). So offer us the 5* awakening or reduce the shards needed for 5*.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
    Well you're guaranteeing that it wouldn't make them more money to sell at half the price.
    You said if you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits. Notice how you didn't see could.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
    Well you're guaranteeing that it wouldn't make them more money to sell at half the price.
    You said if you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits. Notice how you didn't see could.
    In one conversation I explain how you lose profit by selling short and I offer no guarantee this is the case although it is reasonable (much more so than it's my opinion). Notice how you are taking two separate conversations and falsely conflating them.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
    Well you're guaranteeing that it wouldn't make them more money to sell at half the price.
    You said if you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits. Notice how you didn't see could.
    In one conversation I explain how you lose profit by selling short and I offer no guarantee this is the case although it is reasonable (much more so than it's my opinion). Notice how you are taking two separate conversations and falsely conflating them.

    And the example you used was chocolate bars, I mean, this is a game with virtual items. There is no cost to make these items. To kabam there is no difference in offering 1 sig store for $1 and offering 100 sig stones for $1. They lose nothing from it. That's why your example is a bad one and makes no sense.

    I'm not taking two separate conversations. You told someone they had no way to guarantee something and I'm doing the same as you. Simple as. if you can't take that then you're a hypocrite
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
    Well you're guaranteeing that it wouldn't make them more money to sell at half the price.
    You said if you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits. Notice how you didn't see could.
    In one conversation I explain how you lose profit by selling short and I offer no guarantee this is the case although it is reasonable (much more so than it's my opinion). Notice how you are taking two separate conversations and falsely conflating them.

    And the example you used was chocolate bars, I mean, this is a game with virtual items. There is no cost to make these items. To kabam there is no difference in offering 1 sig store for $1 and offering 100 sig stones for $1. They lose nothing from it. That's why your example is a bad one and makes no sense.

    I'm not taking two separate conversations. You told someone they had no way to guarantee something and I'm doing the same as you. Simple as. if you can't take that then you're a hypocrite

    Seriously wondering if you are following the conversation. I used chocolate bars because that was the example offered in the post I was responding to. Regardless of another falsehood you again have offered as argument, There are costs associated with these items. It takes man hours to develop the content and servers to host it, these things are not free.

    And again I guaranteed nothing, at this point it looks like you are trolling. Enjoy.
  • OzzieontOzzieont Posts: 237
    This marketing the way business work they target a part of the community with a offer like this while other part of the community dont have any need of this items at the moment , A player with my rooster dont have any use for now to buy those signature stones for what to have them save with the rest of 5 star signature stones and a science awaken gem and i cant get no science 5 star champ and i have 8 already so if they put a offer of a 5star awaken gem and i get to pick the class i definitely consider buying if the price is right and it doesn't require to buy another offer first to unlock the 5 star awaken gem offer i really buy it
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,193 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Noobeeus wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    He can't but his thoughts are logical and equal common sense, if mars bars were 20p they would sell more than at 40p.

    If a car was £3000 down from £6000 more would sell.
    They are not logical at all and if that's common sense I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

    The quantity of the items sold isn't the driving factor of profit. If Mars bars and cars were sold at half the price they would need to sell well beyond twice as many to make the same profit. How? Those items have costs associated with manufacture and selling for half the price doesn't mean it costs half as much to manufacture, distribute, store, sell, etc.

    Numbers candy cost to manufacturer is 10c and 40c to a customer. That's 30c for the company per bar. Now half that price is 10c to the company so to make that 30c they lost by halving the price they now need to sell 3 times as many.

    Get out of here with this horse poo.

    So how much did it cost per sale of these sig stones?

    Kabam obviously have a factory somewhere manufacturing these?

    Oh wait...

    They're digital and cost them NOTHING...

    They WOULD have sold TRIPLE if they HALF the price.
    They cost devopler hours and any other overhead associated with the game. Now they are worth money obviously as people pay for them and people also desire them to the point they put up ludicrous arguments about thier price.

    If you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits when they are sold for less. How? Right now they can sell 100 for 100$, then sell them again to a portion of those 100 6 months from now for a lesser price along with those who were previously priced out.

    They make 10,000 today and tomorrow they make 10,000. What people are arguing about is why don't they make 15,000 today.

    It's the long game and this isn't an altruistic endeavor it's a capitalist business. Go find a game like this supported by a socialist/communist company you think Kabam should be.
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    They have offers to cater for all tiers of players, don't forgot that they have to keep some sort of balance in the game an thinking it's longevity, if it was too cheap people would be maxing out sig 200 5* far to quickly for their plan of 2020. I guarantee they would of made so much Morey money if it was half the price, but that's just my opinion
    How can you guarantee that if it's just your opinion? :/

    Quite easily, it's my opinion that would be guaranteed to make more money.
    Laughable. Your opinion guarantees they would make more money? How does that work and if your opinion is so valuable why are you giving it away for free? This actually puts the value of your opinion at 0$.
    Well you're guaranteeing that it wouldn't make them more money to sell at half the price.
    You said if you sell them for a lesser price it costs potential future profits. Notice how you didn't see could.
    In one conversation I explain how you lose profit by selling short and I offer no guarantee this is the case although it is reasonable (much more so than it's my opinion). Notice how you are taking two separate conversations and falsely conflating them.

    And the example you used was chocolate bars, I mean, this is a game with virtual items. There is no cost to make these items. To kabam there is no difference in offering 1 sig store for $1 and offering 100 sig stones for $1. They lose nothing from it. That's why your example is a bad one and makes no sense.

    I'm not taking two separate conversations. You told someone they had no way to guarantee something and I'm doing the same as you. Simple as. if you can't take that then you're a hypocrite

    There is a cost. The game doesn't produce itself. Someone has to design those virtual items. Everything in the game exists because someone designed it, planned it, marketed it, spent time and effort making it possible. It's not just a switch someone flicked.
    That time and effort is made possible by those who purchase said Offers. Not all are for everyone. Some are quite pricey as well. No argument. However, it's not free. Everything has a cost to make.
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