Champion Spotlight - Domino

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 2,869 ★★★★★
    @Kabam Miike
    I’ve got an issue with domino critical failure, specifically in RoL against captain marvel. I’ve put a gif below.
    ywfxe01rmtyk.gif
    You can see that at the very start of the fight, literally, even before I hit parry critical failure triggers. All I can think of is that the fury ability is failing. But here is my issue, because domino triggers critical failure whether the attack lands or not.

    Either on one hand domino is bugged and triggering Critical failure randomly or on the other, when the AI (or the player when fighting against domino) launches an attack, regardless of if it hits, is parried or dexterity’d away; critical failure will trigger anyway.

    This happens in a lot of situations, when crossbones hits Domino’s block he degens because there’s technically a % chance to trigger fury when he begins his attack, but it’s blocked so in reality there is a 0% chance.

    Domino working like this is frankly just tiring. I don’t want to see the game release more unavoidable damage, it’s sad and removes a hell of a lot of fun from the game for me. The fact that Domino can make abilities, that can only be triggered from hitting the opponent, fail when they hit a block or even when they hit nothing, if it’s evaded, is ridiculous.

    How can fury from a hit fail, when no hit occurs?

    Thanks for pointing this out!

    For Captain Marvel, there is a hidden Buff that she gains at the beginning of the fight that basically tracks her Power Meter and corresponds with an Attack Buff. This is her Signature Ability. This is not an interaction we intended, and while it's not really a "bug", it's one we're going to fix.

    As for Crossbones, did he already have any Fury buffs active? As you know, Crossbones gains ability accuracy reduction with each stack of Fury that he has Active. When he fails to Reduce her Ability Accuracy, he is triggering the Critical Failure.

    Brilliant about captain marvel, are there any other champs that have this same interaction we shouldn’t be seeing? And is it similar to what happened with voodoo with his invisible debuff?

    With crossbones it happened with both situations.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/1aiWOC0DmtrMQWOA8S/html5
    Here’s (I think) a gif

    It’s odd that failing to reduce AA counts as failure, it doesn’t make sense.

    I can't seem to make that GIF work, but I will have the team test with both Furies on, and Off.

    As for Captain Marvel/Ms Marvel, there are some other Champions with Abilities that trigger at the start of a fight (I think Storm might be one of them, but I can't say for certain). We're not going to make a change to Captain/Ms Marvel, but the way that Domino interacts with those abilities. This way, we aren't going to have to change the way those abilities work for each individual.

    I have it as a video but my free GIF maker app says I’ve ran out of free gifs so can’t upload anymore, would screenshots of it help? Or how can I upload videos here? k7wlamk4kj04.png
    nk9rhf8tpc7e.png

    @Kabam Miike any word on what’s going on with crossbones then? Is he getting critical failure for “failing to reduce her ability accuracy even when he has no furies” or is he getting critical failure for “failing to proc fury even though he’s hitting her block”
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Posts: 1,704 ★★★
    edited June 2018
    He is getting crit failure for failing to hit domino.....
    Lol
  • MSRDLDMSRDLD Posts: 632 ★★★
    Maat1985 wrote: »
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/75288/everyone-say-it-with-me-ability-envy
    great point here.... regardless of what you think about domino and her abilities......
    her and other new champs are just tooo much......
    you need a god damn masters degree to understand them......
    these champs abilities are aslong as some books.....

    fancy new abilities are cool but a champ needs 2 or 3 maybe 6 abilities.......
    not 100000000000000.....
    most players would not read all of champs new abilities and be able to understand them.....
    it takes longer to read and understand this then some people spend playing in a day.

    I have a master’s degree and I still don’t get it. It’s easier to get peer-reviewed research publications than answers about whether new champions are working as intended.

    Same. Masters here too. I stopped reading Domino's ability descriptions by the time I got to her Special 1. It's all gotten too complicated when the basic stuff still fails. They're putting the cart before the horse.
  • Honestly we just want to know by now if a justified domino nerf is gonna come into effect or not. Constructively this decision shouldn't take this long to make by kabam I like to think..
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Posts: 1,704 ★★★
    @Kabam Miike
    Can we expect any answer as to these bugs and questions we have raised???
    There are alot of obvious bugs that we havnt even heard if the team is looking into....
    There are many other things that we dont know if bug/broken/working as intended....
    Thereis just alot we dont understand....
    Please guys. As players we need to be able to understand what we are up agaisnt so we can actuallymcounter her
  • gohard123gohard123 Posts: 688 ★★★
    gohard123 wrote: »
    xtlee56cbp0o.png
    Tech champions are never unlucky however she placed an unlucky passive on hulk buster. This was in arena and happened at the start of the fight. I think she had the cable synergy not too sure

    @Kabam Miike could you look into this
  • TanindraTanindra Posts: 2
    I want asking about alliance war..can you help me
  • DrewskiDrewski Posts: 27
    Ya did an awesome job with her. Had a 3 and just pulled a 4 star yesterday. Super fun too fight with. One question....when is infinity dust going to be converted to gold?
  • DrewskiDrewski Posts: 27
    Also too the Arch Angel no parry stun message. She is shooting guns....AA can not parry stun projectiles only proxima can.
  • DrewskiDrewski Posts: 27
    Your best bet against her would be someone with auto block or DD clasdic who evades projectile attacks. Also like on the previous message Proxima can parry stun projectiles and her true accuracy can bypass evade.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 320 ★★★
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    How does Domino’s sp2 while the opponent is unlucky taunt work?
    Is it immediate, last the duration of the fight or some random time?

    Anyone have info on this?

    Anyone have info on this?
  • K9ButtK9Butt Posts: 3
    Took my R4 Nebula against Domino. No contest at all. Nebula ran through that mutant like she was standing still
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 320 ★★★
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    How does Domino’s sp2 while the opponent is unlucky taunt work?
    Is it immediate, last the duration of the fight or some random time?

    Anyone have info on this?

    Anyone have info on this?

    Anyone have info on this? @Kabam Miike
  • gohard123gohard123 Posts: 688 ★★★
    gohard123 wrote: »
    xtlee56cbp0o.png
    Tech champions are never unlucky however she placed an unlucky passive on hulk buster. This was in arena and happened at the start of the fight. I think she had the cable synergy not too sure

    @Kabam Miike could you look into this

  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 320 ★★★
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    Rotelly wrote: »
    How does Domino’s sp2 while the opponent is unlucky taunt work?
    Is it immediate, last the duration of the fight or some random time?

    Anyone have info on this?

    Anyone have info on this?

    Anyone have info on this? @Kabam Miike

    Another day same question, how does Domino's SP2 work?
  • gohard123gohard123 Posts: 688 ★★★
    gohard123 wrote: »
    xtlee56cbp0o.png
    Tech champions are never unlucky however she placed an unlucky passive on hulk buster. This was in arena and happened at the start of the fight. I think she had the cable synergy not too sure

    @Kabam Miike could you look into this

  • gohard123 wrote: »
    gohard123 wrote: »
    xtlee56cbp0o.png
    Tech champions are never unlucky however she placed an unlucky passive on hulk buster. This was in arena and happened at the start of the fight. I think she had the cable synergy not too sure

    @Kabam Miike could you look into this

    She shouldn't be able to make tech champions Unlucky, as it says in her ability description. We've looked into this and have pushed a fix that should have resolve this issue. If you are still seeing her apply Unlucky to anyone who it shouldn't be applied to, feel free to let us know.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 320 ★★★
    @Kabam Zibiit Can you confirm how Domino's SP2 works?
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Posts: 1,960 ★★★
    Thanks, Zibiit.

    Can I ask to clarify a couple of things about Domino's Special-1 attack? She gets an Attack boost when the opponent is Unlucky:

    1 - Does her Attack boost apply to each second that passed since the last time Domino struck (hit the opponent effectively) with a Special Attack, or is it since the last time Domino made contact with a special Attack (even if it was blocked)?

    i.e. if I repeatedly bait and block special attacks (taking chip damage), do these blocked attacks reset the timer, or does the bonus just keep escalating until Domino finally gets lucky and lands a Special Attack effectively?

    2 - Is there any upper limit to this Attack boost? After fifty or a hundred seconds?

    Thanks for checking for me.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 320 ★★★
    Rotelly wrote: »
    @Kabam Zibiit Can you confirm how Domino's SP2 works?

    Another day another dollar..... How does Domino's SP2 work?

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit
  • IrohrIrohr Posts: 254
    They don't care. They won't answer you.
  • NikoBravoNikoBravo Posts: 346 ★★
    This is the cheapest player yet and I thought Medusa’s autoblock parry was bad. This breaking block nonsense has to go ASAP!

    And that whole you can’t parry projectile argument is lame because you can parry Magnetos energy attacks. Remember when you guys said that since he wasn’t physically touching you it was causing Ultron to absorb it?? I do.
  • NikoBravoNikoBravo Posts: 346 ★★
    And why is she allowed to have a 6 hit combo instead of the standard 5?
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 2,816 ★★★★★
    She is still breaking blocks. I thought that was confirmed as bug? Can we get a fix on that one?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 2,869 ★★★★★
    NikoBravo wrote: »
    And why is she allowed to have a 6 hit combo instead of the standard 5?

    Drax, Iron man Infinity war, moonknight, probably more
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 2,869 ★★★★★
    @Kabam Miike
    I’ve got an issue with domino critical failure, specifically in RoL against captain marvel. I’ve put a gif below.
    ywfxe01rmtyk.gif
    You can see that at the very start of the fight, literally, even before I hit parry critical failure triggers. All I can think of is that the fury ability is failing. But here is my issue, because domino triggers critical failure whether the attack lands or not.

    Either on one hand domino is bugged and triggering Critical failure randomly or on the other, when the AI (or the player when fighting against domino) launches an attack, regardless of if it hits, is parried or dexterity’d away; critical failure will trigger anyway.

    This happens in a lot of situations, when crossbones hits Domino’s block he degens because there’s technically a % chance to trigger fury when he begins his attack, but it’s blocked so in reality there is a 0% chance.

    Domino working like this is frankly just tiring. I don’t want to see the game release more unavoidable damage, it’s sad and removes a hell of a lot of fun from the game for me. The fact that Domino can make abilities, that can only be triggered from hitting the opponent, fail when they hit a block or even when they hit nothing, if it’s evaded, is ridiculous.

    How can fury from a hit fail, when no hit occurs?

    Thanks for pointing this out!

    For Captain Marvel, there is a hidden Buff that she gains at the beginning of the fight that basically tracks her Power Meter and corresponds with an Attack Buff. This is her Signature Ability. This is not an interaction we intended, and while it's not really a "bug", it's one we're going to fix.

    As for Crossbones, did he already have any Fury buffs active? As you know, Crossbones gains ability accuracy reduction with each stack of Fury that he has Active. When he fails to Reduce her Ability Accuracy, he is triggering the Critical Failure.

    Brilliant about captain marvel, are there any other champs that have this same interaction we shouldn’t be seeing? And is it similar to what happened with voodoo with his invisible debuff?

    With crossbones it happened with both situations.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/1aiWOC0DmtrMQWOA8S/html5
    Here’s (I think) a gif

    It’s odd that failing to reduce AA counts as failure, it doesn’t make sense.

    I can't seem to make that GIF work, but I will have the team test with both Furies on, and Off.

    As for Captain Marvel/Ms Marvel, there are some other Champions with Abilities that trigger at the start of a fight (I think Storm might be one of them, but I can't say for certain). We're not going to make a change to Captain/Ms Marvel, but the way that Domino interacts with those abilities. This way, we aren't going to have to change the way those abilities work for each individual.

    I have it as a video but my free GIF maker app says I’ve ran out of free gifs so can’t upload anymore, would screenshots of it help? Or how can I upload videos here? k7wlamk4kj04.png
    nk9rhf8tpc7e.png

    @Kabam Miike any word on what’s going on with crossbones then? Is he getting critical failure for “failing to reduce her ability accuracy even when he has no furies” or is he getting critical failure for “failing to proc fury even though he’s hitting her block”

    Still no word on this @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious ? Not even a small update? Radio silence.
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