Counters to champions I HATE fighting

HfchangHfchang Member Posts: 186 ★
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Nightcrawler - he just evades everything... like 3 in 5 attacks. Any champs able to true accuracy other than Proxima?
Hyperion - I can't even with his power gain
Electro - any way to avoid the physical contact damage when hitting him?
Magik - heal blocking can stop her regen in limbo, but anything to stop the loss of health? Avoiding attacking can't be the only way surely.

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  • SuperSam57SuperSam57 Member Posts: 325 ★
    Nightcrawler- Iceman (cold snap), AA (neurotoxin), Killmonger (True strike, or any champ with it), learn to switch his stance.

    Hyperion- Hood, Magik, Starky, maybe mephesto

    Electro- Gwenpool, AA, wolverine/x23

    Magik- AA, Blade, Gladiator Hulk, magik to power lock

    There could be a few more that I'm missing, but this is what comes to mind.
  • SabrefencerSabrefencer Member Posts: 1,433 ★★★
    Nightcrawler-Any champ that reduces ability accuracy or has True Strike. Champs like Karnak and Killmonger, while being at a class disadvantage, are good choices. A lot of times I only hit him while he's stunned. Or just try to switch him into Swashbuckler mode as soon as possible. No more BAMF.

    Hyperion-Power Control champs like Vision or Hawkeye. Or bring in Mephisto. Not only do you get a class advantage, but if you keep spamming his S1, he'll never activate his power gain. Or use Loki and steal it every time it activates.

    Electro-No way to avoid the damage, but any champ with DOT will help reduce the number of hits you need to take him out, thus reducing the amount of damage you take.

    Magik-Sorry, another damage that is inevitable. Some say that the trick is to push her past her S1 or S2 threshold while she is stunned, which CAN lower the chance of Limbo activating, but the higher her Sig level, the higher the chance of it activating.
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  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,106 ★★★★★
    Sabrefencer wrote: »
    Nightcrawler-Any champ that reduces ability accuracy or has True Strike. Champs like Karnak and Killmonger, while being at a class disadvantage, are good choices. A lot of times I only hit him while he's stunned. Or just try to switch him into Swashbuckler mode as soon as possible. No more BAMF.

    Hyperion-Power Control champs like Vision or Hawkeye. Or bring in Mephisto. Not only do you get a class advantage, but if you keep spamming his S1, he'll never activate his power gain. Or use Loki and steal it every time it activates.

    Electro-No way to avoid the damage, but any champ with DOT will help reduce the number of hits you need to take him out, thus reducing the amount of damage you take.

    Magik-Sorry, another damage that is inevitable. Some say that the trick is to push her past her S1 or S2 threshold while she is stunned, which CAN lower the chance of Limbo activating, but the higher her Sig level, the higher the chance of it activating.

    with NC you can actually use any champ, just hit him in block after he dashes back so he changes fight style - no more evade)

    vs Hype the best option is SW (even not duped) - nullifies everything

    electro - any dot dmg champ. wolverine any due to regen and bleed, but my favorite here would be Hype - spam sp1, only first hit makes contact

    Magi - to avoid limbo on stun you need mastery, stupify or snth like that. Blade, Gulk and Rulk are the best options
  • HfchangHfchang Member Posts: 186 ★
    Thanks guys for your replies.
    Hyperion seems one of the best champs in the whole game. I don't own him :(

    How exactly do I get NC to change stance then? Hitting him whilst he is blocking? @Aleor
  • WerewrymWerewrym Member Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★
    Hfchang wrote: »
    Thanks guys for your replies.
    Hyperion seems one of the best champs in the whole game. I don't own him :(

    How exactly do I get NC to change stance then? Hitting him whilst he is blocking? @Aleor

    When he dashes back and blocks you'll see a timer under his health bar, you need to make that timer last it's full duration. Usually this means dashing in and hitting his block 4 times, but you still have to watch out for his evade.
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Member Posts: 2,421 ★★★★
    Lots of good options from everyone here, I’d also like to add Elektra as a counter to Electro, once you get him bleeding her defensive ability accuracy kicks in and his thorns almost always fail. Plus class advantage, plus when he’s below 15% (I forget what it is when she’s awakened) she strikes with guaranteed crits.
  • Mirage_TurtleMirage_Turtle Member Posts: 1,868 ★★★★
    Bishop is an excellent counter for Electro and Magik
  • BahamutBahamut Member Posts: 2,307 ★★★★
    Nightcrawler: Proxima, Corvus, Killmonger, Black Widow (awakened), Crossbones, Quake, Void (better awakened), Hiemdall.

    Hyperion: Scarlet Witch, Stark Spidey, Void (better awakened), Luke Cage, Magik.

    Electro: Blade (with synergies), Quake, Crossbones, Black Widow (awakened), Gwenpool (awakened).

    Magik: Quake, RagnaHulk, Blade (with synergies), Magik.
  • SabrefencerSabrefencer Member Posts: 1,433 ★★★
    Aleor wrote: »
    it's actually pretty funny, couse you can counter all with just one champ - Quake) if they are stunable, of course

    I'd argue you don't want to use Quake against someone with automatic power gain, like Strange or Hyperion or even Mordo when his Power Gain is active. Since they don't need to be hit to get power, they can just use their S1 on her and she won't evade that.
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,106 ★★★★★
    Sabrefencer wrote: »
    Aleor wrote: »
    it's actually pretty funny, couse you can counter all with just one champ - Quake) if they are stunable, of course

    I'd argue you don't want to use Quake against someone with automatic power gain, like Strange or Hyperion or even Mordo when his Power Gain is active. Since they don't need to be hit to get power, they can just use their S1 on her and she won't evade that.

    I just checked (dueled big fat Hype with my 3/30 Daisy), Quake turns off all abilities with concussion, and so mordo shouldn't get his power gain. a little tricky with Hype, 4* with maxed sig gains almost a bar of power from start, 5* would get one. but it's still possible, you just need to bate one sp. Strange's power gain is passive, so here charging heavy won't work.
    also not many champs besides SW, who won't let 5* duped Hype get to sp3. Magik with high md might work, or sparky taunt. void, if you're lucky. but Quake is definitely a decent option - on sp3 node he won't use sp1 (hopefully), otherwise bate a special just once.
    I'm not saying she is the best option, but she is good enough for all those champs. I usually have to fight Hype with GR, and I wouldn't say he is much better
  • SabrefencerSabrefencer Member Posts: 1,433 ★★★
    The issue is that if you start charging right away and their Power Gain kicks in and they use while you are charging, it will hit; she doesn't evade special attacks.
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  • bluebubble100bluebubble100 Member Posts: 62 ★
    crossbones is great 4electro

    lukecage is good for Hyperion /just use special 3

    iron man iw is good for night crawler since he has some un evadable attacks
  • Zeronaut81Zeronaut81 Member Posts: 290 ★★
    Awakened Morningstar is awesome for Hyperion; you copy his power gain & reduce his power gain by like 40%
    Loki can steal the buff, too
  • SabrefencerSabrefencer Member Posts: 1,433 ★★★
    Pennmabob wrote: »

    Yeah but you don't have to use her like that. You could charge up heavy and when they get close to a special just stop and then bait a special and play like that. Or just play her like every other champ (5 hit combo, parry, repeat), she actually has a really high base attack so it won't be too bad

    Oh for sure. There are times when I do just play like a normal champ with her. Ive also done it where Ive changed until they get a 1bar, release, but then they charge in and get some free shots in. She's a good champ but you gotta be careful with her.
  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★
    If u want a single all use counter for all those champs void is the best...2 petrify stop healing and power gain..and getting one petrify after fear of the void comes on reverses them both..so u control the fight against power control and regen based champs which cover hype,magik...
    Now he applies debuffs over time as well without u hitting into ur opponent..works well for electro and NC...plus he also has a debuffs which reduces evade chance

    Other than that best specific counter without synergies are
    Hype- power control champs(magik,Hawkeye) or champs that can endure sp3(iceman,duped LC plus at 5 exhaustion debuffs from LC,hype starts losing power)
    NC-true strike(KM,hiemdal, Karnak and others),quake(no need to worry about his evade)
    Magik- ability reduction (blade is the best choice followed by AA,crossbones and quake) or power control champs
    Electro- again ability reduction(blade with gr synergy and others listed above) or dot opponents so that u don't have to hit him too much
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