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Announcing Event Quest: Blood and Venom: Symbiomancer

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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,763 ★★★★★
    SmokinSurfer wrote: »
    It was stated Epic would be much much more difficult than Uncollected and it will tax our Item and Unit stash. So why are the rewards the same as Uncollected. Don't skip this question over please

    It was not. If you read carefully, it says that epic is the same thing as uncollected.
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    SceptilemaniacSceptilemaniac Posts: 1,195 ★★★★
    How will the Klyntar Catalysts be spread in rewards?
    Like we get 5 for completion and 10 for exploration?
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    BassanioBassanio Posts: 162 ★
    edited October 2018
    looks great.....
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    EpistriatusEpistriatus Posts: 1,248 ★★★★
    Iron Patriot is in the current 5* featured crystal.
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    LiamS1990LiamS1990 Posts: 96 ★
    Symbiote difficulty rewards are trash for the suggested difficulty, going to be so much harder and I just don't see the point if you need to waste resources to complete it.
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    LiamS1990LiamS1990 Posts: 96 ★
    They should be at least double the uk if difficulty or at least throw in some 6* shards and t5 basic shards
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    RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    And will you please answer the question about energy cost for this difficulty? If it's just like 2 chapters then it's not big deal. If it's a full 6 maps like Epic that's a huge problem.
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    Jambo3000Jambo3000 Posts: 1
    edited October 2018
    Correct me if I'm wrong but does it not state For completing and mastering ALL of the Symbiote Quests, you earn:
    1x 5-Star Featured Hero Crystal
    2500x 5-Star Shards
    18000x T2 Alpha Catalyst Fragment
    10x 5-Star Sig Stone Crystal
    1x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Crystal
    1x Monstrous Master Title

    So this surely means we need to 100% complete beginner-epic to gain these rewards and not that symbiote is a new difficulty.

    Scratch that just reread the poorly described post!!
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,763 ★★★★★
    It wasn't poorly described. It says right there that it is a new difficulty.
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    InimicoInimico Posts: 52
    edited October 2018
    The situation Kabam has put themselves in is that they have practically ‘given’ everyone a champ which is able to clear every difficulty regardless of your roster. The symbioid is 30% stronger than a 6* rank 2, so it basically beats every other champ, especially with enhancements. Interestingly, they have made it such that you need 1 more Klyntar catalyst to reach rank 5, than what is given for exploring beginner to master.

    This means that a factor for distinguishing mid or late game players comes in where the catalysts are given. If they are given throughout the event quest, clearing one quest on epic difficulty might be manageable for most, leading to MOST mid tier players being able to reach rank 5 on the symbioid. I suspect this is the case, which is why they have tuned down the rewards for the symbioid difficulty.

    Imagine if someone with just 4/40s can get the rank 5 symbioid and hence clear symbiote difficulty, there becomes a problem with controlling progression. Giving too many late game rewards (people asking for 6* shards and t5bc) means that mid tier players have access to tons of late game rewards, which becomes weird when a mid tier player is able to get a 6* that quickly.

    I appreciate that Kabam has already made epic difficulty available for all players, so that mid tier players can have some end game rewards, but perhaps further increasing rewards in symbiote difficulty will tip the scales too much.

    Lately, Kabam seems to be giving more skill based challenges like the danger room, allowing mid tier players to catch up with end game players, and the symbiote difficulty seems like another of such an event. Thankfully, the occult labs will still allow end game players to progress faster with better rewards, so overall the rewards cater to both mid and end game players.
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    SceptilemaniacSceptilemaniac Posts: 1,195 ★★★★
    Inimico wrote: »
    The situation Kabam has put themselves in is that they have practically ‘given’ everyone a champ which is able to clear every difficulty regardless of your roster. The symbioid is 30% stronger than a 6* rank 2, so it basically beats every other champ, especially with enhancements. Interestingly, they have made it such that you need 1 more Klyntar catalyst to reach rank 5, than what is given for exploring beginner to master.

    This means that a factor for distinguishing mid or late game players comes in where the catalysts are given. If they are given throughout the event quest, clearing one quest on epic difficulty might be manageable for most, leading to MOST mid tier players being able to reach rank 5 on the symbioid. I suspect this is the case, which is why they have tuned down the rewards for the symbioid difficulty.

    Imagine if someone with just 4/40s can get the rank 5 symbioid and hence clear symbiote difficulty, there becomes a problem with controlling progression. Giving too many late game rewards (people asking for 6* shards and t5bc) means that mid tier players have access to tons of late game rewards, which becomes weird when a mid tier player is able to get a 6* that quickly.

    I appreciate that Kabam has already made epic difficulty available for all players, so that mid tier players can have some end game rewards, but perhaps further increasing rewards in symbiote difficulty will tip the scales too much.

    Lately, Kabam seems to be giving more skill based challenges like the danger room, allowing mid tier players to catch up with end game players, and the symbiote difficulty seems like another of such an event. Thankfully, the occult labs will still allow end game players to progress faster with better rewards, so overall the rewards cater to both mid and end game players.

    I don't know why, but as a mid-tier player, this was beautiful to read. lol
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    EvangelionlovrEvangelionlovr Posts: 481 ★★★
    @Kabam Miike Will the Symbiote difficulty be the same quest with the same number of paths required for exploration, just harder nodes/stronger opponents?
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    InimicoInimico Posts: 52
    Sceptilemaniac wrote: »
    Inimico wrote: »
    The situation Kabam has put themselves in is that they have practically ‘given’ everyone a champ which is able to clear every difficulty regardless of your roster. The symbioid is 30% stronger than a 6* rank 2, so it basically beats every other champ, especially with enhancements. Interestingly, they have made it such that you need 1 more Klyntar catalyst to reach rank 5, than what is given for exploring beginner to master.

    This means that a factor for distinguishing mid or late game players comes in where the catalysts are given. If they are given throughout the event quest, clearing one quest on epic difficulty might be manageable for most, leading to MOST mid tier players being able to reach rank 5 on the symbioid. I suspect this is the case, which is why they have tuned down the rewards for the symbioid difficulty.

    Imagine if someone with just 4/40s can get the rank 5 symbioid and hence clear symbiote difficulty, there becomes a problem with controlling progression. Giving too many late game rewards (people asking for 6* shards and t5bc) means that mid tier players have access to tons of late game rewards, which becomes weird when a mid tier player is able to get a 6* that quickly.

    I appreciate that Kabam has already made epic difficulty available for all players, so that mid tier players can have some end game rewards, but perhaps further increasing rewards in symbiote difficulty will tip the scales too much.

    Lately, Kabam seems to be giving more skill based challenges like the danger room, allowing mid tier players to catch up with end game players, and the symbiote difficulty seems like another of such an event. Thankfully, the occult labs will still allow end game players to progress faster with better rewards, so overall the rewards cater to both mid and end game players.

    I don't know why, but as a mid-tier player, this was beautiful to read. lol

    That's because I'm a mid-tier player too xD
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    HULK_BREAKHULK_BREAK Posts: 374 ★
    in summary
    to bring the Symbioid to 5-rank you have "only" to fully explore epic level
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    rogueKlyntarrogueKlyntar Posts: 268 ★
    Kabam Kurt wrote: »
    Firstly, the Master Key has been destroyed. Yes, you read that right, the Master Key has been destroyed, and the Master Difficulty has been unlocked for the foreseeable future.

    Shouldnt that mean Master is locked forever lol?
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    Bronc0_Bronc0_ Posts: 19 ★
    @Kabam Kurt
    Can a maxed Symbiote be used in a legends run?
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    WerewrymWerewrym Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★
    Bronc0_ wrote: »
    @Kabam Kurt
    Can a maxed Symbiote be used in a legends run?

    That's actually a really good question... It would put many more players on the same playing field if they can be used for legends run.
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    V1PER1987V1PER1987 Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    If there’s a legends run, then yes he could be used. Why not?
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    DuggiejsmithDuggiejsmith Posts: 18 ★
    Do we have a gold cost for Symbiotes ranking?
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    rogueKlyntarrogueKlyntar Posts: 268 ★
    Duggiejsmith wrote: »
    Do we have a gold cost for Symbiotes ranking?

    Level Up: Unknown
    Rank Up: Klyntar Catalysts and 1 Gold
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    CELEZECELEZE Posts: 46 ★
    Duggiejsmith wrote: »
    Do we have a gold cost for Symbiotes ranking?

    From what I can see l, only rank ups needed, no lvlup
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    CELEZECELEZE Posts: 46 ★
    @Kabam Miike Can we get a straight forward anwser for how much energy do we need for symbiote difficulty? At least is it the same to other difficulties or shorter??
    Do we ask so much that you can t reveal?
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