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The math on featured five star crystals
StarlordisWicked
Posts: 295 ★
God Tier: Domino, CA IW, Corvus, AA, Ghost Rider, Hyperion, Magik,
Demi-god tier: Massacre, Wasp, IM IW, Hulk, Hela, Ultron
Mid-tier: Winter Soldier, SM MM, Loki, Psylocke
Garbage tier: Colossus, BP CW, Falcon, Juggernaut, Groot, Vulture, Iron Patriot
24 heroes total. 7/24 chance of god tier, 6/24 chance of Demi god. So better than a 50 percent chance of god or semi god tier champ
Is it worth the extra shards? Or just too risky?
Demi-god tier: Massacre, Wasp, IM IW, Hulk, Hela, Ultron
Mid-tier: Winter Soldier, SM MM, Loki, Psylocke
Garbage tier: Colossus, BP CW, Falcon, Juggernaut, Groot, Vulture, Iron Patriot
24 heroes total. 7/24 chance of god tier, 6/24 chance of Demi god. So better than a 50 percent chance of god or semi god tier champ
Is it worth the extra shards? Or just too risky?
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For myself, only 3 champions would improve my roster and ability in AW. 3/24. Out of 9 features I got 0. The probability was low and the results weren’t in my favour. Consequence is the changing of alliance. I think Kabam may be monitoring the alliance lability.
I wrote a variant of this earlier and I think it’s relevant here:
These current feature crystals have been a terrible change from the old feature crystals. The drop rates are too low to help players make improvements to their roster at the expense of the extra shards spent. This game is penalizing smart skillful resource management and rewarding luck. A consequence of this is the huge turnover in alliances which favour those players who were more often now simply lucky rather than previously skillful in improving their roster.
Mynalliance we had 4 people do it recently the same day. Me included. I got falcon. Then there was a groot and colossus. Then a Corvus. Much lower then the average in the pool. I won’t be doing featured again.
They've been repeatedly stated to be the same within the same rarity tier. I'm not sure why anyone would choose to not believe that but still believe the drops are random generated.
A *fair* comparison would have the current featured crystal situation be much better. The original featured crystal was created in an environment where 5* shards were extremely difficult to get. It took literally months or longer to get enough for a single featured crystal. Most people are making unfair comparisons to the situation where the 5* shards were increased but the 5* featured hadn't yet been changed to the current one. That situation was never going to last: it was a temporary transition between 5* champs being extremely constrained to one where 5* champions are much more common. I would much rather have the current situation than the old one, and I think anyone who pines for the old featured should have to live under the constraints on 5* shards that existed when that crystal was created.
Too risky IMO. The number of crappy champs (and why not, even champs you don't need because you already have them) is too damn high. For this crystal, I'd be happy with only 4 champs out of 24
Because they didn't get what they wanted so the only explanation it could possibly be is a conspiracy.
You can open 5*s weekly if you grind and even every other week pretty much just playing frequently these days. Anyone who thinks the old crystal system should still exist with today's shard availability is ridiculous.
It's better to line up champs as Champs you'd like to get and Champs you'd hate to get, see where there are more champs, then if there are more of the latter you decide if you can live with getting a champ you detest
Like @MavRCK_ said.
Not just 'is this a God-Tier champion?', but "will this champion significantly change my capabilities?". So Corvus is great, but if you already have him Awakened, getting a few extra Sig levels isn't going to be a game-changer. 5-star Hulk is good, but if you already have a maxed 5/50 will the five star champion change much for you? On the other hand, if you already have Psylocke, she's a decent champ who gets a lot better with her Sig, so she is more valuable if you already have her.
So 'The Math' is very individual. It usually leans in favour of the Featured crystal; but that may not be true for everyone.
100% correct. Of the “god-tier,” I have a duped AA, which means I don’t want him. Period. Moving the needle for me would be a few of the champs listed at the top. I do have some of the others listed below top tier unduped (please please Kabam don’t take that as an indication that I want them), so a dupe might be a modest improvement to them as arena fodder. And like many others, I have most of the low tier champs in some form and pulling them would likely trigger a honest re-evaluation of my MCoC play time (as just happened to a veteran friend who crushed his Sym quest excitement by duping his Falcon again).
But for a newer player, pulling something like a WS dupe could be a game changer. Just depends...
Dr. Zola
I opened featured last batch (9 in total counting the one from sym) until I ended up duping imiw from a fgmc. I already had hype, AA, corvus, GR, and Ultron duped at that point. It wasn't worth it anymore chasing just a domino or magik dupe or capiw pull.
I'm gonna need to reevaluate... Finished symbiote difficulty in one evening and got a basic 5* and the featured one. Pulled Spider Gwen dupe and Colossus dupe. I haven't been happy with a pull for many months now.
Ultron is a great champ. Double regen for survivability and double immunities. He hits soft as hell but damage is not the only useful mechanic in this game. Ultron cleared a ton of biohazard/caltrops paths for me in act 5
Long answer includes a little math here.
Basic crystal has roughly 110 champs in it (I believe it's 108)
50 of those champs by your definition are demi god and above.
That's a 46% chance of getting something good.
13 of the 24 in the featured which is 54% of pulling something good at 1.5x the cost.
So .46/1 > .54/1.5
But that's not going to stop me from opening the features. For someone who's been playing the game a long time, I really need a champ who's useful. I'm going to take as many chances at a featured as possible to stay as competitive as possible.
Game changers, exactly why I open featureds. Chances of getting a champ who radically alters your game path is much better with featured. Opened 30+ basics for some good champs and tons of bad, great including Magik and Angela who got me thru tons of content.
10 featureds and I got Domino X3 with Masacre and CG and within a month I'm Elders Bane and completed a very easy LoL run.
That might push me over the edge given my past 3 months.
Dr. Zola
Has more to do with how large of an actual useful roster do you have. I had 8-10 5* R4 or up champs before I started focusing on featureds
If you have extra shards you can just waste, then go for it. The chance to get an awesome champ is higher, and whether or not that's worth those extra shards is up to you.
@Werewrym
Update: Falcon dupe. 12th dupe out of past 15 5* pulls, and frankly, nearly all of those have been uselsss other than 6* shards. And the few new ones have been Miles, Sentry, KK.
I’ve got more than re-evaluation going on. Fun to be a monstrous Summoner Symbiote for an event, but the account continues to tread water. And the game turns off for the weekend.
Dr. Zola
Next feature is very tempting however...