**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Why is that an issue for you? Multiple accounts are allowed. Who cares if someone chooses to use all their accounts in the same alliance? What harm does it do?
I don’t accept his definition of “unfair.”
No.
That's not even the issue I'm presenting, and I explained my view on Piloting. I didn't say it was exactly the same.
My point, which continues to be bypassed, is that it is not fair to run multiple Accounts in Seasons for Season Rewards. Not to the extreme I'm talking about. As I previously said, if there were a limit, say one Alt per Ally in modes like War, that would be less detrimental than having 5+ in one BG. It's not fair, nor is it logical. It's taking advantage of a system that is really intended for teams of people.
Entitlement, hardly. We can accept our Wins and Losses. What's not right is one person monopolizing spots on the board with many Accounts. It has nothing to do with our skill or organization. We can accept our own limitations. What creates a problem is when people are using the excuse that multiple Accounts are allowed, and milking the Rewards out of a game mode that's not meant for individual people. Otherwise, it would have been called Account Wars.
Let's take an extreme hypothetical. One person opens 50 Accounts and creates 5 Allies. That person runs Wars and takes up 5 spots in the Seasons Leaderboard. Is that acceptable because they're allowed multiple Accounts? No. It's not acceptable. Hiding behind the guise of the rules is not an automatic excuse for something that is unfair. Rules are revisited. Which is why I'm here, to bring to light an issue.
The fact that people are arguing adamantly that there is nothing wrong with it boggles my mind. Regardless, it is not fair, and no matter how you justify it, it's taking more than one's share. It's not fair to the people playing within their own limits. Not at all.
The fact that you keep claiming there's something wrong without even presenting an argument is boggling everyone else's mind. You just keep saying it is wrong, because it is obviously wrong.
That's not unacceptable. That's impossible. No alliance with only ten accounts in it can place anywhere near the top spot in the season leaderboard. Not even if every single account was a computer controlled bot that played perfectly and used mods to hack their way to victory. It is mathematically impossible. Just to take *one* spot a person would have to legally play thirty accounts. They'd need to play sixty to take two. I don't see how it would be possible for a single person to take up multiple spots on the leaderboard, but if they did so they would need to spend so much money to outfit all 150 accounts it would take to do that, that they would probably be single handedly funding the development of Act 7. Such a person doesn't need to multibox a hundred fifty accounts, they would just buy Kabam and permanently etch their name onto the leaderboard.
First of all, I presented reasons. You're just ignoring them.
Secondly, my example mentioned nothing about top spots. It mentioned taking up spots. Spots that are intended for groups of Players. Not one.
The thing is, that’s a biased view. You are saying this because it’s being used against you.
Why limit something that someone does? Isn’t that in itself unfair? Let’s view it this way, anyone who has a W in their name can’t do uncollected EQ 100%. They can’t be allowed to fully explore. Is that fair? Governing how people play this game is not something you nor Kabam should be allowed to do.
Again that is your view brought upon because of your current situation. They are not milking rewards. He has an ALLIANCE made up of SEPERATE accounts. Ergo he is still in the spirit of the game.
Your views shouldn’t supersede the rules of the game. He isn’t taking up 5 leaderboard spots because he earned those.
That’s the thing, there is no issue. He chooses to play the game his way, you thinking there needs to be limitations on how someone can play is absurd.
It’s simply because we as a community don’t see an issue with it. The thing is, when people are faced with with situations like this they cry foul because they are not benifitng from it. You are under the illusion that because you view it as wrong it has to be. But until Kabam come down and says this violates somethig, it doesn’t. And I am sure Kabam won’t, simply because they would then be dictating how people play their time.
Why limit what people do? That's why there are rules. To maintain order and fairness. Otherwise, people can do whatever they want and have no regard for anyone else. That's not a system that is in the spirit of fairness.
I should amend that. Saying you're ignoring my points is more confrontational than I wanted to come across. I feel that you're not acknowledging them.
Your views are biased, and so are your reasons. We need solid reasons. And saying “taking rewards away from 29 other people/accounts means nothing. Why? Because it doesn’t matter where those accounts are at, 30 different alliances or the same, 29 other ACCOUNTS are not getting tier rewards because of his regardless.
So says you.... that’s what you are failing to see, that WE see. You are saying it’s unfsit based on YOUR views, YOUR beliefs, YOUR ideals, YOUR situation. However we don’t see how this violates anything. It’s doesn’t violate any fairness. What it does do ia violate someone, by telling them they can’t do this because you don’t agree with it.
Brackets. I am G1 that means in my bracket there are 1,499 OTHER alliances. That means 44,970 other accounts. If I ran all 30 slots in my alliance I am not hindering anyone from getting rewards. As we are all in the same bracket. Now you can argue that I am preventing G2 rank 1 and maybe even G2 rank 2 alliances from moving up a tier. And I’d argue, no I’m not the alliances ranked 1,500-1,490 are preventing them from moving up. Now from peeping your ingame accckjnt we are in the same alliance. If you are not ANYWHERE near r1-10 this doesn’t create an issue as we all get the same rewards. Including the 1 guy running more than 2 accounts in his alliance.
So how does this effect 44,970 people yet only you and your alliance seem to take an issue with it?
When you're talking about why you limit what people do, rules are necessary.
I saw them in Ingress years ago.
How it affects people is every spot is a representation of 30 Members. 30 people who are playing to the best of their abilities. One person running 30 Accounts is taking up the spot that should hold 30 people. One person should not be running an entire Ally in a competition that Ranks Allies based on how they perform as individuals, together as a team. It's unfair because other people are working together, organizing, coordinating, responding as things come up as a team, communicating, helping each other, waiting on each other, working towards a common goal. One person orchestrating an entire Ally doesn't deserve the same Rewards. They're not operating the same. You just literally go from Account to Account when the Energy fills. There's no variation in skill. If you can take down the Nodes, you just finish the Map and collect the Rewards for 30 people. Not only from the Wins, but from the Season as well. One person takes a spot that is meant for 30 people who are playing together as a....wait for it....TEAM. It's a team competition. What's the sense in having Allies at all? Just create a bunch of Alts and boost yourself through team challenges. Nevermind the other people who are working as a team. As long as it's allowed on paper, you can do what you want.
Is any of this making sense?
Yeah that was an issue, but not anymore. Funny how things come back. Lol.
His ally only has enough members for 1 BG wars, this guy only has a handful of accounts, probably 5 or 6 at most. An playing at silver 3 level with those accounts if nothing for most people. He deserves tomplsy wars with them if he puts the time an effort in.
Based on your experience of people doing things in the high tiers that aren't against the rules? There is nothing to "let go."
Mods have commented many times that you can have multiple accounts in the same alliance...but you think it's possible that they didn't mean to include War? You don't actually believe that's a thing @GroundedWisdom
Based on the competitive nature of those Tiers. I didn't just fall off the Turnip Truck. Lol. I've been here. I've seen the reactions people have towards anything even remotely unfair at the Top. I've seen the lengths people go to maintain positions. Even you can't deny it would be a crusade.
I believe they haven't addressed it specifically. Yes.
By saying that you can have multiple accounts in an alliance they have addressed it specifically. You think maybe they meant as long as only one of the accounts is used in War and you fight the war short handed? Would that apply to AQ also? Yes, you can have as many accounts as you want in one alliance as long as you only use one and the others are inactive? Stop it. They have said multiple accounts in the same alliance is fine which includes war. It has been addressed and you are really reaching here. Please explain where I'm wrong if you can.
It’s not a prob, he has that much free time to play thirty accounts all the power to him
IF You could ship everything you earned to one account, then it would be a prob, but seeing as you can’t and will never be able to I don’t see a problem
The problem is it's not 30 people earning Rewards. It's one. It bypasses the whole point of Alliance Wars. One person is using Alts to boost their own Account.
They've commented when asked if having multiple Accounts is allowed. They have never commented on using many Alts in War. People have reported a number of cases being dinged with that common theme. No sharing, just people with Alts. (Allegedly). Quite obviously, they're not going to comment in those cases because they don't discuss actions taken. Quite possibly also because that may elude to their detection processes. I have yet to see a direct comment about running multiple Accounts in War. Just the statement that people are allowed to have multiple Accounts.