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Passive buffs not counted as buffs?

BrackavitchBrackavitch Posts: 399 ★
in Bugs and Known Issues
So I have 4 lanes left for 100% 6.1.6, but don’t understand the 3 buffs or more line.

How come passive furies or passive buffs in general don’t apply? I took thing in, got 40 fury. No damage. Ok, I have Champion so let’s add as many fury as I can. I get 5 additional fury. No damage to defender.

What gives? Not many reasonable options for me, at least not against miles Spider-Man. He evades too much. Hyperion has a hard time building fury. I have Medusa and Angela, but not enough resources to rank them up at the moment. Oh well. Waiting game it is.

Any other champs with tons of buffs I’m missing out on?

Also, why come killmonger passive armor doesn’t save me from havok?

Comments

  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    I did that path with Hype mainly. Brought Hela (useless) and Angela (decent), but Hype destroyed it. Just parry-heavy over and over and then SP3 when you get it. SS is the only issue, and Magik’s limbo, iirc
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,755 ★★★★★
    Like the previous posted said, passive buffs don't exist in this game.
    The node is clear. You need to have buffs. Having abilities that increases your attack is not enough to be considered a buff.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Buffs are a category to themselves. The easiest way to distinguish them is by the border around the icons, Buffs will have a border and passives will not. Also the pause menu can identify them for you.

    Furthermore Hela is an option, at r2 she took 65% from Sym Supreme on that path for me with 1 revive.

  • World EaterWorld Eater Posts: 3,564 ★★★★★
    will-o-wisp said:

    Like the previous posted said, passive buffs don't exist in this game.
    The node is clear. You need to have buffs. Having abilities that increases your attack is not enough to be considered a buff.

    Per this post , Passive buffs exist

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/426988#Comment_426988
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    MikeHock said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    Like the previous posted said, passive buffs don't exist in this game.
    The node is clear. You need to have buffs. Having abilities that increases your attack is not enough to be considered a buff.

    Per this post , Passive buffs exist

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/426988#Comment_426988
    Not anymore. You are doing a disservice to the community by holding on to antiquated terminology.
  • World EaterWorld Eater Posts: 3,564 ★★★★★
    CoatHang3r said:

    MikeHock said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    Like the previous posted said, passive buffs don't exist in this game.
    The node is clear. You need to have buffs. Having abilities that increases your attack is not enough to be considered a buff.

    Per this post , Passive buffs exist

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/426988#Comment_426988
    Not anymore. You are doing a disservice to the community by holding on to antiquated terminology.
    I’m using kabams terminology. Can you cite where it’s been shown to be phased out, changed or been replaced ?
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    MikeHock said:

    I’m using kabams terminology. Can you cite where it’s been shown to be phased out, changed or been replaced ?

    Yes, I can demonstrate Passive/Active Buff/Debuff once being a thing then being phased out and later defined as impossible, but unless you are willing to accept it I might as well be pissing up a rope.

    First there was a change to the icons to help players tell the difference between passive and active. Patch 15.1 did this, and used Active/Passive Buff/Debuff terminology. By Patch 19.0 They were dropping the term Passive Buff. And ~6 months ago defined buffs as requiring a white bordered icon. An icon denoting a buff cannot lack a border and a passive effect cannot have a border, a Passive Buff would now require having a border and not having a border, that’s impossible. Kabam defined Passive Buff out of existence within MCOC, people can disagree with it but Kabam defines the terms not the players, we are playing under their reality.

    https://playcontestofchampions.com/v15-1-release-notes/
    In-Fight interface has been updated to better showcase the difference between Buffs from Nodes
    - Buffs, Debuffs and Passive Effects that a Champion gets from a Node now have an extra icon to help differentiate them
    - Active Buffs and Active Debuffs will be unchanged
    - [b]Passive Buffs and Passive Debuffs will no longer have a colored border to better distinguish them from Active Buffs[/b]

    https://playcontestofchampions.com/v19-0-release-notes/
    • Doctor Strange’s Hoggath’s Wisdom will no longer appear as a buff. It will now appear as a Passive.

    Kabam defines Buffs as requiring an bordered icon. An icon without a border cannot, by Kabam’s definition, be a buff but is instead a passive effect.

    “Hey there, Cap (Infinity War)'s ability specifically Nullifies Unstoppable Buffs. The Unstoppable from that node isn't a Buff, but a passive effect. [b]Buffs and Debuffs will have a white border around their icons, while passive effects do not.[/b]I hope that can be helpful in planning for the fight!” https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/111407/night-thrashers-unstoppable-not-getting-stopped-by-caiw

    Miike on buffs and passives.
    “This is something that I need to work with our team to clear up, because there is some confusion amongst our players on what is considered a Debuff, and what is a Passive Effect. They are sometimes confused for one another.” https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/731098#Comment_731098
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