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# Angela Hela Synergy

Jhill0524
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Wondering if the new wording to the Angela hela queen of hel synergy is a nerf? It seems like it is no longer giving the same chance it used to

The one with only the queen of hel synergy shown is the old one I screenshot a couple months ago

The one with only the queen of hel synergy shown is the old one I screenshot a couple months ago

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## Comments

12★910★★★old synergy wording: You will get a 100% chance to trigger that synergy ability when 4 of your champs are KOed.Simple math: initial 20% chance + (20% chance per your dead champ X 4 dead champs) = 100% chance.

New synergy wording: -20% chance per champion alive.Which means even when your main champ is the only one alive, the chance for it to trigger is now 80%.

Definitely a nerf. I'm starting to get mad with all of these hidden and unannounced changes to the game.

@Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Miike @Kabam Vydious

Please let me know if my math is incorrect which I know it is not.

2,147GuardianWhen you enter with your full team, you have a flat 20% chance (hence -20% per champ alive). Then 100% chance to trigger when only 1 champ left. Stands to reason that it

shouldfunction the same. However, I could very well be wrong.The original wording was much more clear IMO. They both could mean the same thing, or there is a chance it has been reduced to a max 80%. It wouldn't make sense to say 100% chance to trigger though if it was only 80% when 4 champs are dead. Why was the wording changed if it doesn't change the function is the real question here?

2,147Guardian1,479★★★this is a pic from 2017

2,147GuardianWhy it was changed, not sure. Seems to function the same.

12★1,479★★★26,869★★★★★2,898★★★★★New synergy 100% chance -20% chance for each teammate alive meaning at 4 champs dead it’s a 80% chance

26,869★★★★★26,869★★★★★2,898★★★★★2,898★★★★★26,869★★★★★2,898★★★★★26,869★★★★★216★★216★★Nice to see you completely skipped over the part related to the topic where your point you keep trying to push was pointed out as incorrect.

Move on

3Why would they change the wording from something that was clear to something that seems ambiguous?

Unless

- something has been changed or

- something will be changed at a future date.

- another probability

I use the word 'seems ambiguous' because depending on the readers' knowledge of English and Mathematical Probability the description may or may not be clear.

Mathematical probability is the likelihood of one or more events occurring, these events may or may not be related.

1. Majority if not all agree that the previous wording as quoted

This chance increases by 20% for each Champion on their team currently knocked out.

means that with 1 champ remaining alive, there is a 100% chance that the champ would revive.

Its clear from the wording that in this case only one event is been altered. (i.e chance to regain HP)

2. However in the new description it reads as follows

This has a 100% chance to trigger, but is reduced by 20% for each Champion alive on your team.

Lets break this description down by removing the irrelevant words for the purpose of the context, assuming we have 1 champ remaining alive.

"20% chance to

~~instantly~~regain~~20% of their~~HP~~just before they're knocked out.~~This has a 100% chance to trigger, but is reduced by 20% for each Champion alive

~~on your team.~~"(1) "20% chance to regain some HP"

(2) "

has a 100% chance to trigger, reduced by 20% for each Champion alive". (i.e Team of 5 champs with one 1 alive gives 80% to trigger, So 20% chance to NOT trigger for 1 champ)ThisNow this change in wording (along with the word

on the second line) suggests that we now (or gives the developers the freedom to) have probabilities for two events instead of one.ThisThe two events would be

(1) "chance to regain HP"

(2) "chance to trigger event (1)"

If this is the case then you cannot simply add these these two probabilities since they are mutually exclusive.

This means that there is a chance that the champ will not revive.

Lets explain this another wayAn Ultimate Crystal has a 20% chance to award a 4 Star and an 80% chance to award a 3 Star. That's the drop rates published by the developers.

Now the chance of you getting a 4 Star is based on you opening that crystal (this is the trigger). If you never open the crystal you will never get a 4 or 3 Star.

So lets now ask my friend to open the crystal, but there is a 80% chance that my friend will do what I ask and a 20% chance he will not.

If with the 20% chance he does not open the crystal then I will not get any champ from that crystal.

869★★★1,721★★★★★1,721★★★★★This one says that it have 100% chance to trigger, but

"reduces"by 20%for each champ alive.If four champs are alive then only 20% chance to trigger. OR If 4 champs are dead then 100% chance to trigger.This one says it have 20%

increasedchance to trigger foreach dead champ in team.If 4 champs are dead then 100% chance to trigger. OR If four champs are alive then only 20% chance to trigger.509★★★Also, why is the other guy getting flagged for stating his opinion?

1,721★★★★★2,898★★★★★It does seem to just be a unnecessary and complicated text change that they didn’t need to do at all