6.2 Mister Sinister [MERGED THREADS]

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  • Rickybobby1Rickybobby1 Posts: 194 ★★
    How many units was Vision, I don’t remember, but I remember laughing at the offer. People work, they have families. To grind those units costs time. Time = money.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Posts: 609 ★★★

    Kabam, you still looking into this? Honestly, this fight is straight BS. Another case of Kabam failing to test content prior to its release. Let’s look at this fight closely. You need...

    A Shock Immune Champion to bypass the Shock (Gulk & Power Control Champs work too)
    A Poison Immune Champion to bypass the Poison
    A Heal Block Champion to control the Regeneration
    A Champion with Fury to bypass the Damage Reduction
    Must be a 5-Star or 6-Star (Act 6 Requirements)

    The only hard counter I can think of is Gulk with Heimdall, also needing Angela or Hella for the synergy (all as 5-stars or 6-stars, might I add).
    There is no way on earth a Kabam Employee could play through this fight & be like...
    ”This is awesome! A great, skill based & interactive fight that players will love!”
    Doesn’t make sense.


    The only thing we're looking into is the Caustic Temper node. The rest of it is functioning as designed. This is not going to be an easy fight, and it's not meant to be. There are quite a few different Champions and Champion combinations that will work, but this is going to test the depth of your roster and your RPG Knowledge.
    Which “quite a few” champions or champion combinations can solo this fight? If you don’t have a 5* heimdall and hela/Angela for the fury synergy it is impossible to get through him without revives. Most people don’t have a 5-6* heimdall and some may never get him. There aren’t any other options.
    To be fair, he didn't mention soloing the fight. Why does it need to be a solo KO to be valid? What difference does it make?
  • Msyounus1288Msyounus1288 Posts: 158

    Theres also She-Hulk. She is poison immune, & Controls healing via her Petrify on the SP2. She might not need Heimdalls Fury Synergy, because she has her own Fury. But her Fury is Passive, so I am not sure she will work



    Passive fury doesn’t work. Can’t solo that fight without the heimdall synergy. New strategies or champion combinations wont magically arise in the coming weeks or months because there aren’t any. So you either wait until you get a 5 or 6* heimdall + hela/Angela or blow throw revives to get through him.
  • Msyounus1288Msyounus1288 Posts: 158

    Kabam, you still looking into this? Honestly, this fight is straight BS. Another case of Kabam failing to test content prior to its release. Let’s look at this fight closely. You need...

    A Shock Immune Champion to bypass the Shock (Gulk & Power Control Champs work too)
    A Poison Immune Champion to bypass the Poison
    A Heal Block Champion to control the Regeneration
    A Champion with Fury to bypass the Damage Reduction
    Must be a 5-Star or 6-Star (Act 6 Requirements)

    The only hard counter I can think of is Gulk with Heimdall, also needing Angela or Hella for the synergy (all as 5-stars or 6-stars, might I add).
    There is no way on earth a Kabam Employee could play through this fight & be like...
    ”This is awesome! A great, skill based & interactive fight that players will love!”
    Doesn’t make sense.


    The only thing we're looking into is the Caustic Temper node. The rest of it is functioning as designed. This is not going to be an easy fight, and it's not meant to be. There are quite a few different Champions and Champion combinations that will work, but this is going to test the depth of your roster and your RPG Knowledge.
    Which “quite a few” champions or champion combinations can solo this fight? If you don’t have a 5* heimdall and hela/Angela for the fury synergy it is impossible to get through him without revives. Most people don’t have a 5-6* heimdall and some may never get him. There aren’t any other options.
    To be fair, he didn't mention soloing the fight. Why does it need to be a solo KO to be valid? What difference does it make?
    Lol what? You deal 90% less damage without an active fury buff. Only a certain set of champs have an active fury buff as part of their abilities. Then there’s caustic temper so for every buff active you will take passive shock damage every time he activates special. Plus they need to be poison immune and be able to counter mr sinister regen. Unless you have an endless supply of revives you need to be able to solo that fight.
  • Rickybobby1Rickybobby1 Posts: 194 ★★

    Kabam, you still looking into this? Honestly, this fight is straight BS. Another case of Kabam failing to test content prior to its release. Let’s look at this fight closely. You need...

    A Shock Immune Champion to bypass the Shock (Gulk & Power Control Champs work too)
    A Poison Immune Champion to bypass the Poison
    A Heal Block Champion to control the Regeneration
    A Champion with Fury to bypass the Damage Reduction
    Must be a 5-Star or 6-Star (Act 6 Requirements)

    The only hard counter I can think of is Gulk with Heimdall, also needing Angela or Hella for the synergy (all as 5-stars or 6-stars, might I add).
    There is no way on earth a Kabam Employee could play through this fight & be like...
    ”This is awesome! A great, skill based & interactive fight that players will love!”
    Doesn’t make sense.


    The only thing we're looking into is the Caustic Temper node. The rest of it is functioning as designed. This is not going to be an easy fight, and it's not meant to be. There are quite a few different Champions and Champion combinations that will work, but this is going to test the depth of your roster and your RPG Knowledge.
    Which “quite a few” champions or champion combinations can solo this fight? If you don’t have a 5* heimdall and hela/Angela for the fury synergy it is impossible to get through him without revives. Most people don’t have a 5-6* heimdall and some may never get him. There aren’t any other options.
    To be fair, he didn't mention soloing the fight. Why does it need to be a solo KO to be valid? What difference does it make?
    Because if you’re skilled enough, you shouldn’t be guaranteed to die. Potions should be used for mistakes. If I can
    Go the whole fight without making a mistake I shouldn’t be forced to use resources, nor should anyone else. The “fun and interactive damage” thing is crazy. Skill plays no part in the game at that point. If you know you’re going to die. Anyone who has the time to grind arena or the money to pay for potions can win any content in the game. You don’t need skill. There’s no balance that they like to say. It’s absurd.
  • Ace_QuillAce_Quill Posts: 57

    Even if you have every champ in the game available as a 5 or 6* except heimdall what team are you taking for that fight without having to blow through units/revives?

    OG Hulk with Thor raganrok synergy would possibly do ok with a stun chain and a couple revives. As in I know it’ll be manageable each time probably 2 or 3 but I don’t have hulk.
  • _ASDF__ASDF_ Posts: 1,000 ★★★
    I used sentinel and red hulk. With the Angela heimdall synergy. Wasn’t too bad.
  • Msyounus1288Msyounus1288 Posts: 158
    Ace_Quill said:

    Even if you have every champ in the game available as a 5 or 6* except heimdall what team are you taking for that fight without having to blow through units/revives?

    OG Hulk with Thor raganrok synergy would possibly do ok with a stun chain and a couple revives. As in I know it’ll be manageable each time probably 2 or 3 but I don’t have hulk.
    There’s also the global node where you get incinerate if your crit deals 3% of his health in damage. He also regens. If you die against him with a science champ he’ll increase his regen by a certain percentage depending on sig level the next fight and his regen rate increases by 1% with every hit on your combo.
  • Strikerrx8Strikerrx8 Posts: 696 ★★
    Just nerf him so we can move on with act 6 n at least do completion
  • Rickybobby1Rickybobby1 Posts: 194 ★★

    Kabam, you still looking into this? Honestly, this fight is straight BS. Another case of Kabam failing to test content prior to its release. Let’s look at this fight closely. You need...

    A Shock Immune Champion to bypass the Shock (Gulk & Power Control Champs work too)
    A Poison Immune Champion to bypass the Poison
    A Heal Block Champion to control the Regeneration
    A Champion with Fury to bypass the Damage Reduction
    Must be a 5-Star or 6-Star (Act 6 Requirements)

    The only hard counter I can think of is Gulk with Heimdall, also needing Angela or Hella for the synergy (all as 5-stars or 6-stars, might I add).
    There is no way on earth a Kabam Employee could play through this fight & be like...
    ”This is awesome! A great, skill based & interactive fight that players will love!”
    Doesn’t make sense.


    The only thing we're looking into is the Caustic Temper node. The rest of it is functioning as designed. This is not going to be an easy fight, and it's not meant to be. There are quite a few different Champions and Champion combinations that will work, but this is going to test the depth of your roster and your RPG Knowledge.
    Which “quite a few” champions or champion combinations can solo this fight? If you don’t have a 5* heimdall and hela/Angela for the fury synergy it is impossible to get through him without revives. Most people don’t have a 5-6* heimdall and some may never get him. There aren’t any other options.
    To be fair, he didn't mention soloing the fight. Why does it need to be a solo KO to be valid? What difference does it make?
    Because if you’re skilled enough, you shouldn’t be guaranteed to die. Potions should be used for mistakes. If I can go through an entire fight without missing a block, or making a mistake, how do I die to “fun and interactive damage”

  • Ascoop24Ascoop24 Posts: 115 ★★
    I’m not saying it was easy or cheap but I did power thru with og hulk using just small revives and the heimdall synergy.
  • Rickybobby1Rickybobby1 Posts: 194 ★★
    Ascoop24 said:

    I’m not saying it was easy or cheap but I did power thru with og hulk using just small revives and the heimdall synergy.

    This is not a rant so don’t delete it MODs. You shouldn’t have to say things like “it wasn’t cheap”. Story content shouldn’t be required to spend units or money if you’ve been playing the appropriate amount of time. Try another game. Marvel Strike Force. No money required. Just play, you can complete all the story stuff. They have content designed for spenders. It’s not their story stuff. Shouldn’t be here either.

  • Msyounus1288Msyounus1288 Posts: 158
    xNig said:

    Lol. The Sinister boss has been nerfed. End game players have tested it and it can be done pretty easily.

    It’s end game content so if you can’t do it yet, guess the implication.

    That’s right. You’re not end game yet. Take some time to build your rosters before attempting it again. You don’t NEED to complete it on Day 1.

    (Love the tears of those who don’t understand this simple logic though. 😂)

    where are you getting this from? Mans came in with “this just in” lol. It can’t be done pretty “easily” without the heimdall synergy and please post a vid of these end gamers easily taking down mr sinister without that synergy. Expand your roster? Yeah L et me go pull a 5 or 6* heimdall brb
  • Ace_QuillAce_Quill Posts: 57
    Drooped2 said:

    xNig said:

    Lol. The Sinister boss has been nerfed. End game players have tested it and it can be done pretty easily.

    It’s end game content so if you can’t do it yet, guess the implication.

    That’s right. You’re not end game yet. Take some time to build your rosters before attempting it again. You don’t NEED to complete it on Day 1.

    (Love the tears of those who don’t understand this simple logic though. 😂)

    Also to note 2 revives a day in events so the people saying it took 8 ish doesnt seem like bad to me since they are so easy to pile atm
    What makes me not end game ready? 100% all existing content? 12 6* and 70 5*? 8 R5 5*? 14 R4 5*? Do I need that 9th R5 to be ready.

    14 revives for me using Hyperion. Instant death as soon as sinister used a special attack. OG Ultron just didn’t do enough damage and died to shock very quickly. Ghost did Ok. Aegon did not do too well.
  • Ace_QuillAce_Quill Posts: 57
    Sorry quoted the wrong post but you get the point
  • _ASDF__ASDF_ Posts: 1,000 ★★★
    Ace_Quill said:

    Drooped2 said:

    xNig said:

    Lol. The Sinister boss has been nerfed. End game players have tested it and it can be done pretty easily.

    It’s end game content so if you can’t do it yet, guess the implication.

    That’s right. You’re not end game yet. Take some time to build your rosters before attempting it again. You don’t NEED to complete it on Day 1.

    (Love the tears of those who don’t understand this simple logic though. 😂)

    Also to note 2 revives a day in events so the people saying it took 8 ish doesnt seem like bad to me since they are so easy to pile atm
    What makes me not end game ready? 100% all existing content? 12 6* and 70 5*? 8 R5 5*? 14 R4 5*? Do I need that 9th R5 to be ready.

    14 revives for me using Hyperion. Instant death as soon as sinister used a special attack. OG Ultron just didn’t do enough damage and died to shock very quickly. Ghost did Ok. Aegon did not do too well.
    Hyperion is the wrong champ for that fight. Which is why it took so many revives. The last champ anyone should use is one that procs a ton of buffs. Hence, using Rulk/sentinel. If the directions say flat head screwdriver, don’t go get a Phillips. 😂
  • Kaladin_Kaladin_ Posts: 308
    I hate when they do this. Make a fight near impossible unless you have 1or 2 of champions that counters. Then it's made worse because it's a boss fight and you need to beat the guy 6 or more times. Ummm I can see the end approaching. People are frustrated I think we will begin to loose 10% of the active players each month. I give it a year. This is the final curtian call gents. I've played to many games and once the effects start to become more and more OP it means the company is in the end game. Cash grabbing before Boca Raton....
  • xNigxNig Posts: 3,466 ★★★★
    Ace_Quill said:

    Drooped2 said:

    xNig said:

    Lol. The Sinister boss has been nerfed. End game players have tested it and it can be done pretty easily.

    It’s end game content so if you can’t do it yet, guess the implication.

    That’s right. You’re not end game yet. Take some time to build your rosters before attempting it again. You don’t NEED to complete it on Day 1.

    (Love the tears of those who don’t understand this simple logic though. 😂)

    Also to note 2 revives a day in events so the people saying it took 8 ish doesnt seem like bad to me since they are so easy to pile atm
    What makes me not end game ready? 100% all existing content? 12 6* and 70 5*? 8 R5 5*? 14 R4 5*? Do I need that 9th R5 to be ready.

    14 revives for me using Hyperion. Instant death as soon as sinister used a special attack. OG Ultron just didn’t do enough damage and died to shock very quickly. Ghost did Ok. Aegon did not do too well.
    Yeah I get it bro. But you do have the necessary counters on your roster to take him down. What I was referring to were those that aren’t ready roster wise complaining.
  • xNigxNig Posts: 3,466 ★★★★
    edited June 13

    If you think it can be done pretty easily without heimdall and hela/Angela synergy post a vid of the fight. Don’t come here with that end game nonsense it just proves you haven’t actually fought him.


    Lol. I already fought the much harder version of him 2 months back.

    If you can name me 2 champs (even with synergies) that can take him down should Caustic Temper be replaced with Buffed Up, I’m all ears.

    (Gonna add that Caustic Temper was my suggestion 😬)
  • _ASDF__ASDF_ Posts: 1,000 ★★★
    Kaladin_ said:

    I hate when they do this. Make a fight near impossible unless you have 1or 2 of champions that counters. Then it's made worse because it's a boss fight and you need to beat the guy 6 or more times. Ummm I can see the end approaching. People are frustrated I think we will begin to loose 10% of the active players each month. I give it a year. This is the final curtian call gents. I've played to many games and once the effects start to become more and more OP it means the company is in the end game. Cash grabbing before Boca Raton....

    People should think ahead and consider the mechanics of the game when ranking up. I R5d champs specifically for immunities and buffs or no buffs. Champs that rely on debuffs. Champs that don’t. Regen control. Power control. Diversify. 🤷‍♂️ Now I have a tool for almost every fight.
  • Nabz034Nabz034 Posts: 177
    edited June 13

    Even if you have every champ in the game available as a 5 or 6* except heimdall what team are you taking for that fight without having to blow through units/revives?

    What do you mean? Even if you blow units and revives, without Heimdall, it’s near impossible. I guess quake and Medusa but even then, one single slip, he gets back all his health.

    Nice one game team, it’s not only looking like future content will not allow us to use champs we’ve finally got and ranked up, but now we chapters are subjected to having certain characters?

    Either let us use our 4* champs in this map or fix this. This isn’t just preventing 100% exploration, you guys basically put a stop sign on this map for over half your players.
  • Msyounus1288Msyounus1288 Posts: 158
    xNig said:

    If you think it can be done pretty easily without heimdall and hela/Angela synergy post a vid of the fight. Don’t come here with that end game nonsense it just proves you haven’t actually fought him.


    Lol. I already fought the much harder version of him 2 months back.

    If you can name me 2 champs (even with synergies) that can take him down should Caustic Temper be replaced with Buffed Up, I’m all ears.

    (Gonna add that Caustic Temper was my suggestion 😬)
    Lol I don’t get the point here. Solo that fight without heimdall synergy with your end game might and post a vid. So what you’re saying is if you don’t have a 5 or 6* heimdall in your roster you’re not “end game” ready? I don’t care if you blew through units or revives to get through lol the point of the post is that you shouldn’t have to just because you don’t have one specific champ for synergy in your roster.
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