July 4th deals, Uncollected vs Cavalier

GroundedWisdom · July 2019

Neotwism said:
@GroundedWisdom Kabam has never done this before on deals. Of course ppl are going to be upset and feel slighted. Your example with the daily deals is poor. That has always been a perk if memory serves me correctly. The value is also similar. The value between these tiers is quite extreme. I was looking forward to dropping up to $500 today like last year. Now i dont feel like spending because of the letdown in the tiers. This should have been announced and done on earlier cash based offers if they wanted to implement it so pol could have been expecting it ahead of time.

They've been doing it ever since the Level 40 cap for the Gifting Badge, at the very least. Then since they introduced the Titles, game is full of Offers for Uncollected only. The fact is, they can target whatever demographic they want with whatever Offer they want. Having access to certain Offers and Rewards comes with meeting certain requirements. I'm sorry people are upset by this, but we're not entitled to the same Offer that Cavaliers have. Just the same as people who aren't Uncollected are not entitled to the UC Offers. If we want access, we need to meet the requirements.

Hamcrusher · July 2019

Well thats it I will be quitting the game thanks and it’s been fun but this is so ridiculous I’m done. I mean I know you guys never have cared as much about the lower end players who doesn’t spend as much all the time but this is stupid. Why would I ever pay money to a game that will give me less for the same amount of money. I will be quitting and rating this game very poorly. Have a good life and man do i miss the old days when the company cared about us even a little.

Malinzaro · July 2019

Thanks Kabam for making these differences between uncollected and cavalier. You just convinced me to save my units and money. Good business model. See you next time!

Crispy · July 2019

If you don’t like the deals, show them by not spending. Simple as that. Saved me tons.🙂

Prathap · July 2019

Hamcrusher said:
Well thats it I will be quitting the game thanks and it’s been fun but this is so ridiculous I’m done. I mean I know you guys never have cared as much about the lower end players who doesn’t spend as much all the time but this is stupid. Why would I ever pay money to a game that will give me less for the same amount of money. I will be quitting and rating this game very poorly. Have a good life and man do i miss the old days when the company cared about us even a little.

If Cavalier/Uncollected are getting some good rewards., They've earned it.... If the so called lower end players want to stay there forever it's their wish and they'll get the rewards at that level... What's wrong with that???

Hamcrusher · July 2019

@Kabam Miike thanks for all you do I know you get a lot of hate as the community contact but that is wrong of them I hope you have a great life and are treated with respect.

JRock808 · July 2019

Won't be giving a dime or unit for any of this tripe.

Kabam, you really need to go back to the drawing board when it comes to your monetization model and loot distribution system.

While a few whales may pay the bills for you, when they are gone no one is going to fill that void. But you don't care. Get it now and cash out when you have to.

Just a poor reflection on the Marvel brand.

JBW1313 · July 2019

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:
Isn’t providing different offers to all your customers considered customer discrimination @Kabam Miike ? Has this been okayed by Kabaam’s legal counsel? If everyone has the ability to buy they should have the ability to choose amongst ALL offers available regardless of level.
Stores and businesses have exclusive clubs all the time.
Amazon prime ring a bell?
This tactic isnt new or illegal

That’s where you just proved my point @Drooped2. If you are an Amazon Prime customer you get access to ALL their offers. We are ALL Kabaam customers thus we should all get the same offers even newbies. Freebies from Kabaam such as free crystals or units based on how long you’ve been a player etc is different. Thus that’s why there are also uncollected and Cavalier crystals because you’ve earned them and going forward they’re free. I just have a problem with purchasing power and hope to get a response from @Kabam Miike

JBW1313 · July 2019

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:
Isn’t providing different offers to all your customers considered customer discrimination @Kabam Miike ? Has this been okayed by Kabaam’s legal counsel? If everyone has the ability to buy they should have the ability to choose amongst ALL offers available regardless of level.
Stores and businesses have exclusive clubs all the time.
Amazon prime ring a bell?
This tactic isnt new or illegal

That’s where you just proved my point @Drooped2. If you are an Amazon Prime customer you get access to ALL their offers. We are ALL Kabaam customers thus we should all get the same offers even newbies. Freebies from Kabaam such as free crystals or units based on how long you’ve been a player etc is different. Thus that’s why there are also uncollected and Cavalier crystals because you’ve earned them and going forward they’re free. I just have a problem with purchasing power and hope to get a response from @Kabam Miike
If you are an amazon customer you dont get prime deals

Theres a difference yes all prime members get better deals.
Like all Cavaliers got better deals.

It's funny how you neglected that part in your justification.

You are all customers I agree but theres a level between customer and prime

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:
Isn’t providing different offers to all your customers considered customer discrimination @Kabam Miike ? Has this been okayed by Kabaam’s legal counsel? If everyone has the ability to buy they should have the ability to choose amongst ALL offers available regardless of level.
Stores and businesses have exclusive clubs all the time.
Amazon prime ring a bell?
This tactic isnt new or illegal

That’s where you just proved my point @Drooped2. If you are an Amazon Prime customer you get access to ALL their offers. We are ALL Kabaam customers thus we should all get the same offers even newbies. Freebies from Kabaam such as free crystals or units based on how long you’ve been a player etc is different. Thus that’s why there are also uncollected and Cavalier crystals because you’ve earned them and going forward they’re free. I just have a problem with purchasing power and hope to get a response from @Kabam Miike
If you are an amazon customer you dont get prime deals

Theres a difference yes all prime members get better deals.
Like all Cavaliers got better deals.

It's funny how you neglected that part in your justification.

You are all customers I agree but theres a level between customer and prime

You just don’t make sense. Everyone is a potential customer...every human out there. When you purchase prime you become a customer and when you download MCOC you become a customer. Everyone else shouldn’t be getting deals which is the point you’re trying to make. I’ll just drop it here with my point being made.

Prathap · July 2019

JBW1313 said:

Drooped2 said:

JBW1313 said:
Isn’t providing different offers to all your customers considered customer discrimination @Kabam Miike ? Has this been okayed by Kabaam’s legal counsel? If everyone has the ability to buy they should have the ability to choose amongst ALL offers available regardless of level.
Stores and businesses have exclusive clubs all the time.
Amazon prime ring a bell?
This tactic isnt new or illegal

That’s where you just proved my point @Drooped2. If you are an Amazon Prime customer you get access to ALL their offers. We are ALL Kabaam customers thus we should all get the same offers even newbies. Freebies from Kabaam such as free crystals or units based on how long you’ve been a player etc is different. Thus that’s why there are also uncollected and Cavalier crystals because you’ve earned them and going forward they’re free. I just have a problem with purchasing power and hope to get a response from @Kabam Miike
If you travel in first class you would get more benefits even if you are travelling with economy class... That's just based on the status...

Poor Kabam... If they give same for all., some section of players complain... If they do level base then also same issue.. what a tragic...

TwmR · July 2019

@JBW1313 amazon prime is more than just the streaming service it is also something that gives you discounts and faster delivery on any purchase on amazon.
A regular amazon customer will pay more for the same thing than an Amazon prime member

Noob2435 · July 2019

Anyone uncollected or lower should just save their money, I would say spend it to become cavalier but it's not worth spending money on. Farm up units and go from there, I honestly didn't think kabam would do something like this as a lot of uncollected people probably won't buy. Loss of money.

saorps · July 2019

Kabam Miike said:

Felganos said:

HustlaBoi9 said:
I completely agree and I'm cavalier. Money deals should be the same across the board. Kabam messed up wit this one.
Kabam does still have time to fix this, the question is if they will be willing to admit to their mistake (which would actually make them more money), or if they will stand by their decision, angering the community to a huge extent
The reasoning behind this split is to offer more Level appropriate Deals and Offers to Summoners. We mentioned that this kind of stuff would be happening when we introduced these Tiers.

They are designed to allow us to make different Rewards available in different Content for players Progression levels.

The Uncollected deal is worse compared to 2018 if you consider the game progression. Consequence: bad deal = no deal. the uncollected should be closer to the cavalier offer.
I respect my money, therefore, I am ignoring the deal and recommend all uncollected to do the same.

Demonzfyre · July 2019

Lynx_X said:

Demonzfyre said:

Lynx_X said:
@Kabam Miike sorry mate, You've messed up. One thing is FTP unit offers another thing is money. The community is upset enough with Kabam's performance as it is lately. I am usually a very patient guy and understand business quite well. I am actually so upset by this, that I might quit this game entirely. The mobile game I have played for a year and a half.
Its a mobile video game. Why would you be that upset over a mobile video game.
Because we're talking real money. Basically I got my hopes up then got really let down. Basic human reaction. Rationally you should never be spending this kind of money on a mobile game. Just think about what you would get for this amount of money in the real world.

So don't spend the money? I fail to see the issue. It's not like you HAVE to spend it. Yet you say you are going to quit because you CAN'T spend it on a mobile game.

JRock808 · July 2019

This is not comparable to Prime in any way.

Prime is not restricted on how much you have spent previously at Amazon, how ugh you have bought, how long you have been shopping there,

You can be born and immediately become a prime member.

Giving people more for the same money based on progression is inarguably terrible economic policy,

Trumpster fire indeed.

KingKiah · July 2019

Demonzfyre said:

Lynx_X said:

Demonzfyre said:

Lynx_X said:
@Kabam Miike sorry mate, You've messed up. One thing is FTP unit offers another thing is money. The community is upset enough with Kabam's performance as it is lately. I am usually a very patient guy and understand business quite well. I am actually so upset by this, that I might quit this game entirely. The mobile game I have played for a year and a half.
Its a mobile video game. Why would you be that upset over a mobile video game.
Because we're talking real money. Basically I got my hopes up then got really let down. Basic human reaction. Rationally you should never be spending this kind of money on a mobile game. Just think about what you would get for this amount of money in the real world.
So don't spend the money? I fail to see the issue. It's not like you HAVE to spend it. Yet you say you are going to quit because you CAN'T spend it on a mobile game.

There are people who wanted to buy offers but dont want to buy something knowing others have way better offers due to their progress in game
I myself have two accounts and one which is cavalier doesn't need the resources
However my second account is where I wanted the offers
But since it's not cavalier I now dont want to because I'd be spending money receiving a less superior outcome

Urkel2 · July 2019

JBW1313 said:
Isn’t providing different offers to all your customers considered customer discrimination @Kabam Miike ? Has this been okayed by Kabaam’s legal counsel? If everyone has the ability to buy they should have the ability to choose amongst ALL offers available regardless of level.

Its in kabams terms and conditions that we cannot sue and as soon as you download it forces you to accept them or not play.. They made this clear when i spent 2k units to get yondo only to realize that his description that says he finds units was a lie

saorps · July 2019

Demonzfyre said:

Lynx_X said:

Demonzfyre said:

Lynx_X said:
@Kabam Miike sorry mate, You've messed up. One thing is FTP unit offers another thing is money. The community is upset enough with Kabam's performance as it is lately. I am usually a very patient guy and understand business quite well. I am actually so upset by this, that I might quit this game entirely. The mobile game I have played for a year and a half.
Its a mobile video game. Why would you be that upset over a mobile video game.
Because we're talking real money. Basically I got my hopes up then got really let down. Basic human reaction. Rationally you should never be spending this kind of money on a mobile game. Just think about what you would get for this amount of money in the real world.
So don't spend the money? I fail to see the issue. It's not like you HAVE to spend it. Yet you say you are going to quit because you CAN'T spend it on a mobile game.

I agree. if you do not agree with the deal, just do not buy it. if thousands of uncollected players decide not to buy the deal, it will have an impact at the expected revenue for this promo. it is all business. the marketing team will have to review the strategy for the next promo.

Jemster519 · July 2019

Kabam Miike said:

Felganos said:

HustlaBoi9 said:
I completely agree and I'm cavalier. Money deals should be the same across the board. Kabam messed up wit this one.
Kabam does still have time to fix this, the question is if they will be willing to admit to their mistake (which would actually make them more money), or if they will stand by their decision, angering the community to a huge extent
The reasoning behind this split is to offer more Level appropriate Deals and Offers to Summoners. We mentioned that this kind of stuff would be happening when we introduced these Tiers.

They are designed to allow us to make different Rewards available in different Content for players Progression levels.

I do not agree with this as many do not. This falls under the rich get richer and the poor get poorer mentality. This is hard earned money from peoples budgets going towards a game.

Fact of the matter is that this game has consistently given more to who have completed the more difficult content which is a Conundrum in itself. You have to rank up your players to complete the more difficult content which also rewards the resources that are need to do the ranking up. I have not even attempted to complete Act 5 until I ranked up a 5* to R5. Now I am working on 100% Act 5 which will give me the T5B to rank another 5* to R5.

I would be nice to give people the opportunity to gain these resources when they are spending their hard earned money. I was going to spend some money on the game today but have changed my mind because of this.

Kabam could have made a killing on these offers if everyone was given the opportunity to get the Cavalier deals. This seems to be a lose lose situation.

Demonzfyre · July 2019

JRock808 said:
This is not comparable to Prime in any way.

Prime is not restricted on how much you have spent previously at Amazon, how ugh you have bought, how long you have been shopping there,

You can be born and immediately become a prime member.

Giving people more for the same money based on progression is inarguably terrible economic policy,

Trumpster fire indeed.

How often have you used the word Trumpster in order for it to autocorrect from dumpster?

Demonzfyre · July 2019

JRock808 said:
This is not comparable to Prime in any way.

Prime is not restricted on how much you have spent previously at Amazon, how ugh you have bought, how long you have been shopping there,

You can be born and immediately become a prime member.

Giving people more for the same money based on progression is inarguably terrible economic policy,

Trumpster fire indeed.

A better comparison could be hotel memberships. The more you stay, the more points you get. The higher status you have, the better the perks. This type of system exist every where. Kabam chooses to make them tiered this time and that's their right to do so. Most everyone calling it a bad decision, aren't cavailer. If you were, I bet you'd wouldn't even care about the differences. You can say you'd still be here, but we all know you wouldn't.

The misplaced anger boils down to someone else has something you don't because you arent the same level as them. Not Kabams fault you havent become cavalier yet.

Fred_Joeity · July 2019

So people in act 1 should get a chance to get a 5* right off the bat? Isn’t that basically pay to win?

Jemster519 · July 2019

MorbidAngle said:
Stop complaining yall. Im not a Cavalier, but I understand its fair for them to give out different rewards for those who finished 6.1 earlier. Frankly, its on you if you havent finished the Act yet, and its not like you're missing out since theres still Black Friday to look forward to.

You need the right champs and they need to be ranked up. This is standard game progression. There is NO WAY I will work on certain content unless it requires minimal revives. To keep pumping money into a game to complete something, I feel you probably should not be playing it. Personally, I depend on my skills and knowledge of the game to complete content.

July 4th deals, Uncollected vs Cavalier

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