Suicide mastery with only 1 point in willpower

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone have any experience with running a double (or single) suicide build with only 1 point in willpower?
How were your experiences with questing with this build?
How much health did you lose compared to 3/3 willpower?

My main attackers are Corvus, Ghost and (unduped) Omega Red. I do use other champs, but this are my main powerhouses.
Do Corvus and Omega Red still heal with only 1 point in Willpower?

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Lvernon15

Corvus would get the initial heal but take constant damage after the bleed, omega would be fine, but I wouldn’t suggest a build like that for questing, maybe for arena but not quests

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Lvernon15

@Lvernon15 Thank you for your reply.
I understand what you are saying. Wouldn`t champs lose health regardless of 1 or 3 points in willpower?
My understanding goes as follows (I leave out salve because it is a contant in both situation)
The poison suicide does 0,6% damage per second, and since it is a poison reduces healing by 30%.
If I take 3/3 willpower I heal for 0,7% per second, increased by recovery by 15%, and decreased by 30% from the poison. Likewise with 1/3 in willpower but with a heal of 0,5%.

For 3/3 that would equate to
recovery: 0.7%*1.15 = 0.805%
Poison: 0.805%*0.7 = 0.56%
Suicide 0,6% - 0.56% = 0.04% damage every second

For 1/3 that would equate to
recovery: 0.5%*1.15 = 0.575%
Poison: 0.575%*0.7 = 0.4025%
Suicide 0,6% - 0.4025% = 0.1975% damage every second

Which in itself would mean I die in 506 seconds.

Or is there something I am missing completely here?

I do understand the bleed would give a LOT more damage for each champ the first 16 seconds.
But it the math applies that would result in:
1/3: 1.045% per second, in total 16,72% for a 16 second fight
3/3: 0,723% per second, in total 11,568% for a 16 second fight.

I have the numbers (I think), I was just wondering if the differences would feel so insignificant in actual battles/missions.

With 3/3 the poison deals like 4 damage per second once salve is up, if they die during that you don’t really lose health, with 1/3 you would be losing a moderate amount of health, and would take more significant chip damage

Seraphion

I know this is not 100% what you asked but maybe this will help you anyway:

DE = 1,25% damage for 16 sec
LC = 0,6% damage

1,85% -(0,7 × 2 × 1,15 × 0,7)=0,723%

0,723% × 16 sec = 11,6% hp loss

Coagulate 1/3 = 9,6% hp loss

Coagulate 2/3 = 7,6% hp loss

Coagulate 3/3 = 5,7% hp loss

Only DE = 1,25% - 0,805% =

0,445% x 16 sec = 7,1% hp loss

Coagulate 1/3 = 5,1% hp loss

Coagulate 2/3 = 3,1% hp loss

Coagulate 3/3 = 1,1% hp loss

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Seraphion

I run half suicides with DE and 1/3 coagulate bc I play ghost corvus domino magik and omega a lot. Other champs only lose 5% hp which fine in my opinion.

phil56201

I run full suicides, with maxed coagulate, willpower, recovery, and my non-immune champions take next to no damage from the suicides minus any recoil damage. Did a ROL WS take down with my 5/50 Star Lord using only sp3 and taking no hits. Ended the fight with 92% health, which is pretty normal considering the chip damage taken from blocking.

AlphA101

Mine take about 3% per fight in the beginning

Seraphion

I run full suicides, with maxed coagulate, willpower, recovery, and my non-immune champions take next to no damage from the suicides minus any recoil damage. Did a ROL WS take down with my 5/50 Star Lord using only sp3 and taking no hits. Ended the fight with 92% health, which is pretty normal considering the chip damage taken from blocking.

you lose 5,7% for 16 sec