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Will Claire Voyant be nerfed

B_Dizzle_01B_Dizzle_01 Posts: 1,637 ★★★
I want to take her to rank 2. But I’m worried about these new 3 month “rebalancing” aka nerfs. I’m really enjoying the champ. Her damage isn’t huge. How does the community feel about Claire?
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,861 ★★★★★
    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.
  • OdachiOdachi Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    "Adjusted"? Probably.
  • MadcatMadcat Posts: 385 ★★★
    Given the resources required, I would suggest holding off on the R2 until we see the depth they will nerf/adjust brand new champions.
  • New_Noob168New_Noob168 Posts: 1,562 ★★★★
    haha..good question. First time in a long time I've refused to buy any crystals because I don't know the outcome.
  • HSenpaiHSenpai Posts: 92
    To get a massive heal u basically need suicides and crit luck. Otherwise it’s an average heal based on dmg output. She’s rng based like domino and doesn’t deserve a “nerf” imo.
  • RektorRektor Posts: 678 ★★★
    She averages about 15% health regen off a sp2 in real war situations and then recoil takes 5% back.

    Her regen is pretty much trash compared to blade and GR’s and they’re safe from adjustment. She’s not going to be changed.

    Believing her regen you saw from content creators is typical is like believing proxima is gonna do a 400k sp2 every time.
  • Repto23Repto23 Posts: 731 ★★★
    Probably
  • LordRaymond3LordRaymond3 Posts: 394 ★★★
    If its a 5*, just take her to r3.
    If its a 6*, hold off at r1 until 3 months from now
  • GOTGGOTG Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Probably she will be adjusted. Her regeneration is just too much.

    Do you have another option? An older champ?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,189 ★★★★★
    She's fun, and she's good, but I don't see anything that really warrants a rebalance.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,861 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,189 ★★★★★
    edited September 2019
    No. That's not it at all.
    GOTG said:

    New champs are just bait. They give us absolutely OP champs to take money then nerf them to make content harder.

    19th century business.

  • GrimmbearGrimmbear Posts: 639 ★★★
    Yep, probably
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 4,673 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    But its happening regardless of it being positive or not. If they did thier job properly to begin with there shouldnt be any adjustments at all.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 4,673 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    Not to mention that champ doesnt even warrant being adjusted because he cant take any damage at all or else your screwed anyways.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,189 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    But its happening regardless of it being positive or not. If they did thier job properly to begin with there shouldnt be any adjustments at all.
    No. The game will always require adjustments. There's no such thing as doing it perfectly and never needing to change anything. It's a growing and evolving system with many moving parts. Where it is now is different than 2 years ago, and 2 years ago is different than when it started. They're actually doing their job by making adjustments.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 4,673 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    But its happening regardless of it being positive or not. If they did thier job properly to begin with there shouldnt be any adjustments at all.
    No. The game will always require adjustments. There's no such thing as doing it perfectly and never needing to change anything. It's a growing and evolving system with many moving parts. Where it is now is different than 2 years ago, and 2 years ago is different than when it started. They're actually doing their job by making adjustments.
    Tell that to OG black panther or og iron man. If they were making adjustments then they shouldve been adjusted already. But did they cost the company money? No they didn't. That's why cull and sum supreme and she hulk got fixed or adjusted. Your only fooling yourself if you think otherwsie.
  • GOTGGOTG Posts: 1,040 ★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    But its happening regardless of it being positive or not. If they did thier job properly to begin with there shouldnt be any adjustments at all.
    No. The game will always require adjustments. There's no such thing as doing it perfectly and never needing to change anything. It's a growing and evolving system with many moving parts. Where it is now is different than 2 years ago, and 2 years ago is different than when it started. They're actually doing their job by making adjustments.
    No, you said it wrong. Kabam does adjustment first of all because they didn’t do their jobs probably. They can’t or they don’t know how. They release champs with full of bugs or “unintended” damage and ability - just another name of problems. Then they didn’t look at content creators video to see what happens, instead they wait a few months until grabbing enough money then nerf new champs.

    Not just they are incompetent they also are lacking of ethics.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,189 ★★★★★
    GOTG said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    But its happening regardless of it being positive or not. If they did thier job properly to begin with there shouldnt be any adjustments at all.
    No. The game will always require adjustments. There's no such thing as doing it perfectly and never needing to change anything. It's a growing and evolving system with many moving parts. Where it is now is different than 2 years ago, and 2 years ago is different than when it started. They're actually doing their job by making adjustments.
    No, you said it wrong. Kabam does adjustment first of all because they didn’t do their jobs probably. They can’t or they don’t know how. They release champs with full of bugs or “unintended” damage and ability - just another name of problems. Then they didn’t look at content creators video to see what happens, instead they wait a few months until grabbing enough money then nerf new champs.

    Not just they are incompetent they also are lacking of ethics.
    You're mistaking bug fixes with rebalances. Bug fixes, while unfortunate, are necessary when bugs happen. As much as we would like to have a perfect system where nothing goes wrong, that's not realistic.
    Adjustments, or rebalances, are fine tuning after Champs have been released and have performed in the Meta long enough to revisit the data and see how they're performing. It's upkeep.
    You can feel free to attach an ulterior motive to that, but it's not at all what's behind the revisions.
  • B_Dizzle_01B_Dizzle_01 Posts: 1,637 ★★★
    edited September 2019

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    Like Cull.... I’ll wait. Not to mention sunspot with his 400k SP2s coming up. Or warlocks OP utility. Everything is fair game to nerf now buoy whale out for a new champ who’s amazing then few months later they get “rebalanced”. If a champ is too strong them make him weaker. If a champ is underperforming they make him average. Either way it’s in kabams favor. Power to the players.
  • Noob2435Noob2435 Posts: 627 ★★★

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    Hey tool bag. No one is overreacting. Just asking community consensus. Maybe a nerf maybe not. Just asking feedback. If your tired of them then don’t read and keep it moving.
    I love the way tool bag sounds, I'm gonna start calling people that now
  • Derek2kDerek2k Posts: 108
    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    Facts. Honestly I'd just ignore the people who instantly jump up and freak out. I mean common sense says, kabam says they will adjust characters after 3 months aka selling period, so buyers are cautious and those who pull on accident or whatever are cautious because evidence has shown when kabam looks at a character they usually nerf the newer and buff the older. So normal people who aren't on the forums all day don't know that everyone is saying this. So they want to know and ask. Then forum squatters bombard them with.... Why are you even asking this. How dare you spend money on a champ and a ridiculous amount at that and ask if she will be the same in 3 months. Common sense thinking is lacking on forums. Let's spread more of it. Anyway guys be careful and have fun in the game.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,861 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    If a champ is too strong them make him weaker. If a champ is underperforming they make him average. Either way it’s in kabams favor. Power to the players.
    You haven't even seen the results from the first set of champs to be tuned. How can you say any of this and not be overreacting? They havent done anything but buff old champs and you're sitting here acting like rebalancing has been a thing for years.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,861 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Already tired of seeing these types of threads. Shes only been out 3 weeks. They wont even begin to look at her for a very long time. Even then it'll be 3 more months when they do. There isnt even any guarantee they will rebalance her. Theres no need to over react like this at all.

    But kabam is the ones forcing this type of reaction by tweaking champs before they hit basic pool
    People are freaking out because of 1 single champ that is threatened with losing some power. A change we haven't even seen yet or know anything about. Every other champ theyve tweaked has been on the positive side. There isn't a reason to freak out.
    Not to mention that champ doesnt even warrant being adjusted because he cant take any damage at all or else your screwed anyways.
    I'm baffled at why they would focus on his damage as there's so much more lacking with him.
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