Suicide mastery with only 1 point in willpower

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• Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★

  September 2019

  Corvus would get the initial heal but take constant damage after the bleed, omega would be fine, but I wouldn’t suggest a build like that for questing, maybe for arena but not quests

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• Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★

  September 2019

  Donnymeij said:

  @Lvernon15 Thank you for your reply.
  I understand what you are saying. Wouldn`t champs lose health regardless of 1 or 3 points in willpower?
  My understanding goes as follows (I leave out salve because it is a contant in both situation)
  The poison suicide does 0,6% damage per second, and since it is a poison reduces healing by 30%.
  If I take 3/3 willpower I heal for 0,7% per second, increased by recovery by 15%, and decreased by 30% from the poison. Likewise with 1/3 in willpower but with a heal of 0,5%.
  
  For 3/3 that would equate to
  recovery: 0.7%*1.15 = 0.805%
  Poison: 0.805%*0.7 = 0.56%
  Suicide 0,6% - 0.56% = 0.04% damage every second
  
  For 1/3 that would equate to
  recovery: 0.5%*1.15 = 0.575%
  Poison: 0.575%*0.7 = 0.4025%
  Suicide 0,6% - 0.4025% = 0.1975% damage every second
  
  Which in itself would mean I die in 506 seconds.
  
  Or is there something I am missing completely here?
  
  I do understand the bleed would give a LOT more damage for each champ the first 16 seconds.
  But it the math applies that would result in:
  1/3: 1.045% per second, in total 16,72% for a 16 second fight
  3/3: 0,723% per second, in total 11,568% for a 16 second fight.
  
  I have the numbers (I think), I was just wondering if the differences would feel so insignificant in actual battles/missions.

  With 3/3 the poison deals like 4 damage per second once salve is up, if they die during that you don’t really lose health, with 1/3 you would be losing a moderate amount of health, and would take more significant chip damage

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• Seraphion Posts: 1,496 ★★★★

  September 2019

  I know this is not 100% what you asked but maybe this will help you anyway:
  
  DE = 1,25% damage for 16 sec
  LC = 0,6% damage
  
  1,85% -(0,7 × 2 × 1,15 × 0,7)=0,723%
  
  0,723% × 16 sec = 11,6% hp loss
  
  Coagulate 1/3 = 9,6% hp loss
  
  Coagulate 2/3 = 7,6% hp loss
  
  Coagulate 3/3 = 5,7% hp loss
  
  
  
  Only DE = 1,25% - 0,805% =
  
  0,445% x 16 sec = 7,1% hp loss
  
  
  Coagulate 1/3 = 5,1% hp loss
  
  Coagulate 2/3 = 3,1% hp loss
  
  Coagulate 3/3 = 1,1% hp loss

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• Seraphion Posts: 1,496 ★★★★

  September 2019 edited September 2019

  I run half suicides with DE and 1/3 coagulate bc I play ghost corvus domino magik and omega a lot. Other champs only lose 5% hp which fine in my opinion.

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• phil56201 Posts: 964 ★★★

  September 2019

  I run full suicides, with maxed coagulate, willpower, recovery, and my non-immune champions take next to no damage from the suicides minus any recoil damage. Did a ROL WS take down with my 5/50 Star Lord using only sp3 and taking no hits. Ended the fight with 92% health, which is pretty normal considering the chip damage taken from blocking.

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• AlphA101 Posts: 285 ★★★

  September 2019

  Mine take about 3% per fight in the beginning

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• Seraphion Posts: 1,496 ★★★★

  September 2019

  phil56201 said:

  I run full suicides, with maxed coagulate, willpower, recovery, and my non-immune champions take next to no damage from the suicides minus any recoil damage. Did a ROL WS take down with my 5/50 Star Lord using only sp3 and taking no hits. Ended the fight with 92% health, which is pretty normal considering the chip damage taken from blocking.

  you lose 5,7% for 16 sec

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