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A Sincere Discussion Concerning Alliance Wars
Terrorbane
Posts: 4
This is going to be a long post, but one I believe that is extremely important to the entire community. If your alliance participates in Alliance Wars (AW) at all, this issue concerns you. However before I begin please afford me a few important disclaimers:
1) I have a long technical history in the gaming world of nearly 18 years. I work in the legal field and I have represented gaming companies in various types and stages of litigation. Simply put, I do consider myself educated in the areas that I will soon discuss.
2) This is not a recent issue. This problem has continued to plague the game with no discernible response from Kabam.
3) Regardless of your current tier level in AW, rest assured, this issue absolutely affects you even if your alliance hasn’t come across this issue yet.
The Problem: There continues to be alliances that are breaking the rules in order to gain unfair advantages that give them guaranteed wins in AW.
The moderators often immediately close threads like this and tell us to report this to them. For 9 months my alliance as well as 20+ others has done exactly that to no avail. We have patiently complied with Kabam’s rule structure of reporting and we have submitted countless screenshots of indisputable evidence again to no avail.
FACT: A 7 million rated alliance with only a handful of level 60 players, who are 2600+ rated in Tier 2, who solo 5* rank 4 and 5 champions without losing ANY health WHILE the champion is single or double noded, and who are using 4* champions that are rank 3, that alliance is absolutely and unequivocally breaking the rules. No amount of skill can result in that alliance taking ZERO deaths and ZERO damage especially when they are fighting champions that are noded.
If this had just been discovered I would understand, but there are entire YouTube videos of this same group breaking the rules with impunity, with nothing happening to them whatsoever. It is important to note, this is NOT a singular issue. This rule breaking is occurring by more than a single alliance.
The Solution: Kabam, I understand you have privacy rules. But we are your customers and we desperately need a show of leadership and accountability, NOT more closed threads and auto responses telling us to report it again for the 597th time.
As a community we expect you to know your game better than we do, and yet we continue to have to show you things that honestly is so obvious it’s surprising that you even require evidence.
I’m asking a serious question. Don’t you have queries or audits you can conduct? Can’t you run a simple query to review the battle logs of any alliance in tier 2 that is almost entirely comprised of new players?
I’ve invested an ungodly amount of time into this game, and right now my alliance is playing against a team that is absolutely breaking my spirit because apparently they have been doing this for a very long time without any repercussions. Please Kabam, I’m not trying to be adversarial, I’m asking for a solution to a very serious problem.
-Signed The Community
1) I have a long technical history in the gaming world of nearly 18 years. I work in the legal field and I have represented gaming companies in various types and stages of litigation. Simply put, I do consider myself educated in the areas that I will soon discuss.
2) This is not a recent issue. This problem has continued to plague the game with no discernible response from Kabam.
3) Regardless of your current tier level in AW, rest assured, this issue absolutely affects you even if your alliance hasn’t come across this issue yet.
The Problem: There continues to be alliances that are breaking the rules in order to gain unfair advantages that give them guaranteed wins in AW.
The moderators often immediately close threads like this and tell us to report this to them. For 9 months my alliance as well as 20+ others has done exactly that to no avail. We have patiently complied with Kabam’s rule structure of reporting and we have submitted countless screenshots of indisputable evidence again to no avail.
FACT: A 7 million rated alliance with only a handful of level 60 players, who are 2600+ rated in Tier 2, who solo 5* rank 4 and 5 champions without losing ANY health WHILE the champion is single or double noded, and who are using 4* champions that are rank 3, that alliance is absolutely and unequivocally breaking the rules. No amount of skill can result in that alliance taking ZERO deaths and ZERO damage especially when they are fighting champions that are noded.
If this had just been discovered I would understand, but there are entire YouTube videos of this same group breaking the rules with impunity, with nothing happening to them whatsoever. It is important to note, this is NOT a singular issue. This rule breaking is occurring by more than a single alliance.
The Solution: Kabam, I understand you have privacy rules. But we are your customers and we desperately need a show of leadership and accountability, NOT more closed threads and auto responses telling us to report it again for the 597th time.
As a community we expect you to know your game better than we do, and yet we continue to have to show you things that honestly is so obvious it’s surprising that you even require evidence.
I’m asking a serious question. Don’t you have queries or audits you can conduct? Can’t you run a simple query to review the battle logs of any alliance in tier 2 that is almost entirely comprised of new players?
I’ve invested an ungodly amount of time into this game, and right now my alliance is playing against a team that is absolutely breaking my spirit because apparently they have been doing this for a very long time without any repercussions. Please Kabam, I’m not trying to be adversarial, I’m asking for a solution to a very serious problem.
-Signed The Community
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And then they’ll match with you know who.
And then and only then will this get taken care of.
The modding is a problem and I’ve seen cases of that being addressed. I’ve never seen a single case where those alliances who piloted or colluded we’re punished.
I'm not sure how a background in the legal profession offers any insight into the conduct you're complaining about, but I'm compelled to make note of the fact that in general only licensed attorneys can represent corporations in civil litigation in the US (the word "represented" has a specific meaning in the legal profession) and no attorney I'm aware of self-identifies as "working in the legal field."
On a public forum, you are the words you use, the statements you make, and the credibility you can engender.
It might appear to be a technicality to you, but it is not a technicality to me. And for every person like me willing to point that out, there are a lot more that will simply silently make the same evaluation that I did. Maybe my feedback will help someone avoid similar mistakes in the future. Probably not, but you can always hope.
You think your problem is cheating, but that's not your real problem. Your real problem is finding the best possible way to express your concerns in a way that will get the most number of other players on your side and conveying that to the developers in the most constructive way that will influence them to take some beneficial action. That is, if your goal is to provoke change.
Well said, though constructive criticism is often more effective when both negative and positive aspects of statements/actions are addressed. Many of the OP's points are valid. A moderator removed a post I made a few weeks ago because I called out the same alliance the OP is talking about, though I kept all but the first and last letters of the alliance's tag hidden with "*" symbols. I sent the moderator a link to a YouTube video that shows one of the OP's points through recorded video (linked boss kills in AW done in seconds with weak champions), to which the moderator told me to submit a ticket to report the alliance for modding/hacking in AW.
Since submitting my ticket weeks ago, I have seen at least 2 separate players create threads about the alliance referred to by the OP. Even with adherence of forum privacy rules, this alliance's M-O (method of operating) is impossible to misidentify because their method of cheating/hacking/modding is so blatant. I don't understand why this kind of manipulation is ignored, these players/this alliance is disrespecting MCOC's terms of service and therefore Kabam to a great extent. I played Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle before I played MCOC, players who modded/hacked Dokkan Battle's monthly world tournament mode were banned within 24-48 hours. Every. Single. Time.
Hackers and modders should be permanently banned, especially when a large amount of players have been providing video evidence for months.
Dude really? This is your takeaway from the entire post, nuanced grammatical inaccuracies? Someone needs to take the internet away from you, it's being wasted.
I am a licensed, AV rated, member of the bar and a practicing attorney. I am also a founding member of a local BNI chapter wherein I regularly meet prospects and visiting members from outside chapters. So it is quite commonplace for me to be asked the question, “What line of work are you in?” To which I will often answer, “I work in the legal field”, since as you already clearly know that being an attorney doesn’t necessarily mean you actually work in the legal community.
I cannot for the life of me understand how or why this is even remotely important to you. I shared this information about my work history because I have represented, via an actual retainer agreement, several small to mid-size game developers for a whole host or legal issues that I am obviously not at liberty to discuss with you or anyone other than my clients. During my tenure as lead counsel for one of those game developers I became intimately aware of their business practices, game development methods, and their community relations standards. It is due to that experience, having personally seen it done exceptionally well, that I am framing my argument that Kabam could and should do better as it relates to alliances who break the rules.
It is my hope that my answer has provided an adequate and satisfactory reply to your inanely smug attempt at detracting from the intended point of this commentary.
I Say Good Day Sir.
I was about to say “what and get banned too?” But then i remembered how long they’d been “investigated” for.
Dude chil out no one is trying to steal your thunder, your still the forum top dog just let the guy express himself the way he wants. As it stands no one including you has found the best possible way to get kabam to listen about how rife aw us with cheating an piloting.
On a side note, there are folks in this forum who take it upon themselves to argue in every thread. If they can't argue against the original issue, they just pick at something silly, claim its not silly and attempt to explain why they believe that. If you offer a counter to their statements, then you just made their day and invited the inevitable lengthy comeback. This comeback will explain their superior knowledge in all things related to silly subject.
So thank you for the original post and I wish you well in your continued back-and-forth with argument guys.
With that being said, the results of any investigations, including how we have chosen to punish an offending player or Alliance is not something which is up for discussion in this Forum!
More information on cheating and player conduct is available HERE.