Champion Improvement Suggestions [edited by Mod for clarity]

YawnYawn Posts: 22
edited October 22 in Suggestions and Requests
I don’t think there’s much argument in the fact that Iron Fist is one of the worst mystic champs in the game. There is absolutely nothing to this character in terms of his abilities or specials. The specials have no secondary effects, are easily evadable (no defensive utility), and have nothing to them that makes iron fist useful in any realm of the contest. All of his abilities can fit on the screen without having to scroll, not that this is a bad thing, but take a look at exactly what these abilities are. Heavy attacks can nullify 3 specific buffs? When is this ever useful and why is it so specific? 50% chance on crits to armor break? Okay fine. And that’s it. That’s all iron fist is. Even his synergies can’t make him better because all they do is increase armor rating by 130. (Because we all know Iron Fist desperately needs that, lol) The contest has really outgrown Iron Fist and he’s one of those characters that can’t be played anywhere in the game aside for arena points. KABAM has done an amazing job with buffing lackluster characters and I can’t help but feel as though Iron Fist should be one of the next in line. Give Iron Fist some utility and maybe armor shatter as an ability and I’d be over the moon. Just give him anything so that I can use this guy again. What are the forums thoughts on characters from each class that should be buffed?
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  • YawnYawn Posts: 22
    Yeah you make a really good point. He’s such an old character there is no benefit for Kabam to buff him. I just pulled him as a 6 star and have no use for the poor guy.
    taojay1 wrote: »
    I totally agree. The problem is, he's one of the oldest characters in the game, back then all the champs had really simple abilities (look at hawkeye, drax, gamora, spiderman, wolverine, etc). Everyone probably has him in some form by now. there is literally no benefit to kabam to expend resources to buff him. That's why i think it's taking so long to get these beta tests going. Buffing old champs is simply not a priority.

  • MSRDLDMSRDLD Posts: 501
    I expected to see a post about Juggernaut. Iron Fist is deserving of this criticism tho. Supposedly the best martial artist and he is awwwwwful.
  • YawnYawn Posts: 22
    Yeah juggernaut is definitely on the terrible mystic list as well lol
    MSRDLD wrote: »
    I expected to see a post about Juggernaut. Iron Fist is deserving of this criticism tho. Supposedly the best martial artist and he is awwwwwful.

  • Darkstar4387Darkstar4387 Posts: 1,775
    edited October 21
    Iron fist is the worst, and a far cry from his counter part and that nerf basically destroyed what little worth he had.

    As for juggernaut he's okay but his worth as defender and a attacker and is a counter for some people but if he's unduped the he sucks.
  • YawnYawn Posts: 22
    yeah, he got caught up in the update that was meant to nerf other characters but ended up neutering him. He went from semi-useful to riding the bench.
    Iron fist is the worst, and a far cry from his counter part and that nerf basically destroyed what little worth he had.

    As for juggernaut he's okay but his worth as defender and a attacker and is a counter for some people but if he's unduped the he sucks.

  • Did you guys completely forget about dr strange
  • UC is by far worse
  • LiamS1990LiamS1990 Posts: 75
    Dr strange uses to be king until the nurf
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 741
    I think he's mostly awful, but to be fair I have him as a 6* and when I have to use him in AQ he wrecks the Sentinels on map 5.
  • BobomanBoboman Posts: 674
    Wasn't precision and critical nerfed right after 12.0 and didn't he benfit from those?
  • UC is by far worse

    He can be useful if you don't have any bleed immune champs. But really don't enjoy using him at all.
  • BeginthEndBeginthEnd Posts: 263
    What?! Not one single mention of the most elusive champ in the game. Maybe people just forgot. Must not know who he is? I’m talking bout Tha Immortal Iron Fistich! He stole Juggs helmet, while he was in fourth grade!
  • HULK_BREAKHULK_BREAK Posts: 222
    Iron Fist.... both
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Posts: 566
    Iron fist used to not be bad pre12.0. You could at least get negative armor values going and do big damage.

    Nowadays he is just useless.
  • MarriMarri Posts: 260
    Pre-12 he wrecked Groot Miniboss in AQ map 3. Synergy with BP was cool, who was a solid bleeder. Great couple in AQ, used em all the time.
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Posts: 566
    Marri wrote: »
    Pre-12 he wrecked Groot Miniboss in AQ map 3. Synergy with BP was cool, who was a solid bleeder. Great couple in AQ, used em all the time.

    I used to that combo too. Ahhh the good old days.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Posts: 1,915
    He was my Emma Frost slayer when I sucked against her, so he has some uses...not many others tho.
  • OneManArmyOneManArmy Posts: 1,289
    He used to be good. Wrecked thru alot of content for me pre 12.0. They sadly didnt just nerf the gods but so many others suffered
  • WerewrymWerewrym Posts: 1,500
    Agreed he is the worst... so naturally he is in the 6* hero crystal. Yep makes sense.
  • He definitely needs a buff. I don't think he requires a lot of work but yeah 12.0 killed him.
  • skullduggery72skullduggery72 Posts: 144
    edited October 21
    Yes IF needs a buff, juggs needs one more though, especially as juggs is the more powerful champion, in the comics he can take on entire teams like the xmen yet here he's pathetic, uc also needs a buff, as do many others like colossus, IP, gamora, XFDP, magneto etc
  • SabrefencerSabrefencer Posts: 259
    The one thing I find useful when it comes to IF is when fighting Medusa, you can remove her Fury charges with his Heavy Attack. Can keep her from getting to Living Strands plus do some damage unlike champs thar just nullify the charges.
  • Swimmer15Swimmer15 Posts: 42
    The one thing I find useful when it comes to IF is when fighting Medusa, you can remove her Fury charges with his Heavy Attack. Can keep her from getting to Living Strands plus do some damage unlike champs thar just nullify the charges.

    She is bugged right now, if nullify she gets the fury back almost instantly making her stay in living strands most the fight (your basically just resetting the timer)
  • New_Noob168New_Noob168 Posts: 868
    dr strange is the worst...you guys see COWhale using him and the damage output...lol...what a joke
  • Epsilon3Epsilon3 Posts: 1,094
    A lot of Juggernaut hate at the moment but he’s unstunnable when unstoppable and adds nullify when you try so he’s actually kinda scary on defense if you got more frail attackers do he’s at least passable

    If anything UC or IIF are worse but IF as a standard mystic you can just get no questions asked is definitely an awful champ. Negative armor being removed damaged him waaaaay to much
  • At 1 point iron fist was used for legends run back then,

    But this is cae with all old champs there is no need to kabam to buff old champs,

    Look at venom/carnage they got a nice buff...but how many of those people are actually going to r5 5* when there are champs like.

    Medusa/hyperion/Corvus in cosmic category or other strong meta champs.
  • YawnYawn Posts: 22
    Gonna have to disagree with you on your point that there is no need to buff old champs. KABAM has made it their mission statement that they want champion diversity in all aspects of the game. This will never happen if there are champs as useless as iron fist/ x force Deadpool/ khan/ Groot etc... The whole idea that champs will one day “go outta style because they’re old therefore be rendered useless” shouldn’t be the direction the game should be taking and shouldn’t be something you’re okay with.
    At 1 point iron fist was used for legends run back then,

    But this is cae with all old champs there is no need to kabam to buff old champs,

    Look at venom/carnage they got a nice buff...but how many of those people are actually going to r5 5* when there are champs like.

    Medusa/hyperion/Corvus in cosmic category or other strong meta champs.

  • SuelSuel Posts: 180
    Jane foster is the worst
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Posts: 923
    edited October 21
    Yawn wrote: »
    Gonna have to disagree with you on your point that there is no need to buff old champs. KABAM has made it their mission statement that they want champion diversity in all aspects of the game. This will never happen if there are champs as useless as iron fist/ x force Deadpool/ khan/ Groot etc... The whole idea that champs will one day “go outta style because they’re old therefore be rendered useless” shouldn’t be the direction the game should be taking and shouldn’t be something you’re okay with.
    At 1 point iron fist was used for legends run back then,

    But this is cae with all old champs there is no need to kabam to buff old champs,

    Look at venom/carnage they got a nice buff...but how many of those people are actually going to r5 5* when there are champs like.

    Medusa/hyperion/Corvus in cosmic category or other strong meta champs.
    @Yawn

    Yea ill wait for the day someone brings

    Xforce deadpool,kamala khan,groot, to alliance war attack, till then, they are not meta characters and are not worth r5 5* vs better champs in respective class

    And even if they did get buffs..how will they stack up? They will need to be equal or better in terms of what they will bring to the table.

    For example what does buffing kamala khan or using her have over champions like hyperion,corvus,medusa? If she ever did get a buff..will she be any better? Willl she be a champion worthy to r5 5*?


    And yea they are used for diversity for defense. Faced a 6* duped deadpool xforce via @DoolieRay defense for
    “diversity defense”
    Thats where he will be used for.
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