Lab/Dungeons broken nodes list.

I think we should compile all the ridiculously obvious broken nodes/node pairings that we've seen in labs and or dungeons. Off the top of my head:

Recharge + power gain: defender can gain power when being struck or holding block. Recharge clearly states gain 0 power.

Chaos + life transfer: seems to be a glitch where u can instantly die if ur health is too low when it switches ur health. It's basically impossible to win.

Chaos + sabertooth: he somehow ends up full health no matter what happens.

Slumber + Juggs: his unstoppable makes him shrugs off slumber she he immediately has the 500% attack bonus.

Comments

Mitchell35

Slumber stun immune.....
power shield safeguard....

Some aren’t broken, they’re just trolls. Mordo on slumber would have the same effect as juggs slumber. Just reroll. 🤷🏽‍♂️

mydnight

If it's obviously not working as intended according to the language they use, it's a bug. I guess the developers/mods here don't play much so they wouldn't encounter them.

Mitchell35

But it’s not like the slumber stun is passive. It can be messed with by other mechanics, just like how you can bypass safeguard with AAR. And recharge reduces base power to 0, then power gain is just on top of it.

mydnight

I'm not disagreeing with u. I had to reroll 8 times today on my second run to try to bypass these annoying nodes. My point is that them coming up together and having them play off each other or cancel each other out has to be a bug. I don't want to have to memorise an interaction list just to play labs/dungeons.

Sungj

mydnight wrote: »

I'm not disagreeing with u. I had to reroll 8 times today on my second run to try to bypass these annoying nodes. My point is that them coming up together and having them play off each other or cancel each other out has to be a bug. I don't want to have to memorise an interaction list just to play labs/dungeons.

Why would it be a bug if they are both working as intended just with each other

mydnight

2 different nodes that counteracts the effect of each other... always to ur detriment. Sure, leave that as it is.

Mirage_Turtle

mydnight wrote: »

Slumber + Juggs: his unstoppable makes him shrugs off slumber she he immediately has the 500% attack bonus.

As others have said, this one is not broken. With slumber, a very long stun is placed on the enemy. When it's removed, they get a large attack bonus.

This means you have to be mindful of champs who have special interactions with stuns. For example,

Juggernaut cannot be stunned when he's unstoppable. Since he starts the fight with unstoppable active, the slumber stun doesn't stick.

Kingpin and Agent Venom have a chance to immediately shrug off the stun. With Kingpin, even if he doesn't immediately shrug it off, if you happen to place too many debuffs on him (bleeds, resonate weakness, etc.), he'll shrug them all to enter overpower mode.

Rogue, Groot, and Karnak can all shrug off the slumber stun much faster than the node suggests.

Mordo can astral evade your attack when he's stunned, which will pull him out of the stun.

These are all things you've got to watch out for. Slumber can either make the fight very easy or very dangerous depending on the matchup. I like that it makes you really think about the matchup before you enter, but you're never forced to enter that fight. You can always reroll or have the node taken down. Personally, I think it's very well designed.

mydnight

Ok, so how about when they have start the fight 2 bars of power and start the fight with 1 bar of power at the same time?

Surely this isn't supposed to happen.

mydnight

Mirage_Turtle wrote: »

mydnight wrote: »

Slumber + Juggs: his unstoppable makes him shrugs off slumber she he immediately has the 500% attack bonus.

As others have said, this one is not broken. With slumber, a very long stun is placed on the enemy. When it's removed, they get a large attack bonus.

This means you have to be mindful of champs who have special interactions with stuns. For example,

Juggernaut cannot be stunned when he's unstoppable. Since he starts the fight with unstoppable active, the slumber stun doesn't stick.

Kingpin and Agent Venom have a chance to immediately shrug off the stun. With Kingpin, even if he doesn't immediately shrug it off, if you happen to place too many debuffs on him (bleeds, resonate weakness, etc.), he'll shrug them all to enter overpower mode.

Rogue, Groot, and Karnak can all shrug off the slumber stun much faster than the node suggests.

Mordo can astral evade your attack when he's stunned, which will pull him out of the stun.

These are all things you've got to watch out for. Slumber can either make the fight very easy or very dangerous depending on the matchup. I like that it makes you really think about the matchup before you enter, but you're never forced to enter that fight. You can always reroll or have the node taken down. Personally, I think it's very well designed.

Anyway, the reason i said it was bugged is bc the slumber timer is there as soon as the fight starts counting down when he's awake and supposed to get the 500% attack buff. If it was as intended, wouldn't it just not be there?

mydnight

And oh, yes, fought a KG today on the health switch node. He literally couldn't kill me. Every time the health switched, we were both full health. I put the pad down and went to brush my teeth. When i got back, he was still beating on me. I had to restart the game.

xNig

mydnight wrote: »

I think we should compile all the ridiculously obvious broken nodes/node pairings that we've seen in labs and or dungeons. Off the top of my head:

Recharge + power gain: defender can gain power when being struck or holding block. Recharge clearly states gain 0 power.

Chaos + life transfer: seems to be a glitch where u can instantly die if ur health is too low when it switches ur health. It's basically impossible to win.

Chaos + sabertooth: he somehow ends up full health no matter what happens.

Slumber + Juggs: his unstoppable makes him shrugs off slumber she he immediately has the 500% attack bonus.

You apparently don't understand how some nodes and abilities interact. Don't assume that it is a bug if you don't try to find out beforehand.

Recharge reduces your power gain rate by 100%. Power gain adds to it. So there's a net gain on Recharge + Power Gain.

When the health switch occurs during Life Transfer, the game proceeds to subtract and add the % of health on the champs. This addition and subtraction is affected by masteries such as Recovery, and other regen variables, such as Petrify from Void, Limbo on Magik. In addition, you had Chaos which, depending on what debuff was on you, could have adverse effects to your healing.

mydnight wrote: »

Ok, so how about when they have start the fight 2 bars of power and start the fight with 1 bar of power at the same time?

Surely this isn't supposed to happen.

Why isn't it not supposed to happen? Power Start 1 + Power Start 2 = Instant 3 bars of power. There are champs that can work around it, or you can simply reroll.

Sceptilemaniac

I don't know exactly but is dash vulnerability supposed to give you +200% attack for the whole fight?
Cause it does.

mydnight

U can't reroll dungeons.

mydnight

U can't reroll dungeons.

Sceptilemaniac wrote: »

I don't know exactly but is dash vulnerability supposed to give you +200% attack for the whole fight?
Cause it does.

True