Here's the problem. There's only so much that can reasonably be given back. Loyalty spent, sure. As C pointed out, if the Boosts in Inventories are repaired, there's no sense in reimbursing for them. Pots and Revs, bit of a stretch. Going back and evaluating Wars people used them with, that's a stretch. This is one of the reasons there's so much unrest when Compensations arrive. People start tacking on things that aren't reasonable, and when they don't come, it's seen as not enough. I don't know what they will do, but when they say properly, I trust that. What I do know is there's reasonable and unreasonable expectations. As for the thought that they should have disabled them, if it's being fixed and reparations are being made, that's just moot at this point.
But how long has this been going on? We dont know. Only kabam knows. This is their chance to show they actually appreciate us by giving us compensation beyond what's expected. Simply because they want us to stick around for the long haul. Not because they have to but because they want to. It's called good faith.
Hi Guys.. Thanks for addressing this and fixing. I saw a comment somewhere suggesting this was only discovered recently. I did a quick search on the Kabam forums and found this was brought up in January of 2017. I'm sure that Kabam wasn't aware of it at that time. I realize you are still looking into the issue and I don't even know if it's possible for you guys to go that far back, but i'd think if the problem has been around at least that long.. however you decide to compensate for it.. it's looking like it could be a ways back.. below is the link i'm referring to.
@Doomsfist79 I think that was a different issue. OP was talking about the 200% boosts which give you power based on the damage you do, but in LOL you don't do enough damage for them to make a significant difference.
I just want to know if the assurances that Adora has given are proper assurances, or if they're "5*-Punisher-was-definitely-in-the-crystal"-type assurances
Its not question of who has purchased from loyalty or got these boost from War crystals. This issue has major implications and hence:
1) All who has used these boosts should get compensated
2) Revives and potions used should also be considered
3) And also war losses as people must be using these boost under impression that it's working and will help in AW
Questions also arises about other boosts e.g. Health, Health & Attack, Power etc. Kindly confirm whether those boosts are working as intended or not.
This comment right here shows the greed of the fan base. None of us had any clue they weren't working and now you are sitting here trying to come up with ways to ask for more than just the spent loyalty. @Tayyab82 your comment is so far off base its crazy. Most people aren't using the 8/10/12% during war. They are using 150/200% more often.
We should ONLY get loyalty back and that's it. Nothing else is needed or warranted. Heck they could never have told us and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
As for the other boosts you said, you can clearly see they are working correctly. Stop trying to work that angle as well. You aren't getting compensated for those either.
This comment right here shows the greed of the fan base. None of us had any clue they weren't working and now you are sitting here trying to come up with ways to ask for more than just the spent loyalty. @Tayyab82 your comment is so far off base its crazy. Most people aren't using the 8/10/12% during war. They are using 150/200% more often.
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
I used a ton on LOL and needed to use units because they did not work. Not crappy compensation and the oh we are sorry. This is a bigger deal then you are making it. Loyalty is not the main issue here. It is the units used for it not working and the deaths that occurred
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
You keep missing the point...
@TimeTraveler There isn't any point to miss. The boosts were bugged. You will get compensated with loyalty for the boosts that were bugged that you used/bought. End of story.
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
It could have impacted war results. How? Suppose you used a bugged boost and used specials in the fight. The opponent ended up at 1% health and you get caught by his sp3. If the boost had worked properly, you would have ko him before he could use his sp3. So, you lost a fight you should have won. The war was decided by a single death. How can you say this didn’t happen? There were very similar situations like this in the recent wars I participated.
Besides, again, it doesn’t matter if 1 or 10000 players were affected. All affected should receive a compensation.
So, once more, how compensation should be is the only thing to be discussed. I disagree of your opinion that only loyalty should be given back. I understand you disagree from my opinion too, but you have to respect it.
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
It could have impacted war results. How? Suppose you used a bugged boost and used specials in the fight. The opponent ended up at 1% health and you get caught by his sp3. If the boost had worked properly, you would have ko him before he could use his sp3. So, you lost a fight you should have won. The war was decided by a single death. How can you say this didn’t happen? There were very similar situations like this in the recent wars I participated.
Besides, again, it doesn’t matter if 1 or 10000 players were affected. All affected should receive a compensation.
So, once more, how compensation should be is the only thing to be discussed. I disagree of your opinion that only loyalty should be given back. I understand you disagree from my opinion too, but you have to respect it.
You can't prove any of that was the boosts or not. What if it was because you hit a block instead of contacting the opponent and that missed hit resulted not taking enough damage off and then to do a SP and it doesn't K.O. the defender because you hit a block instead of making contact. It's not easily seen data. The tangible data is- the boosts weren't working for "x" amount of time. Compensate for that. You realize how long it would take to determine which fights were won/lost because of it? Would you like to wait a year plus for them to find that data?
You are missing the point: it doesn’t matter if most people are using this or that in war. What matters is that there are people who used these bugged boosts in war and they should be compensated for it. Nothing greedy in here, not crazy at all. Do you think it is fair to open a War crystal and get a bugged boost that won’t work? Lots of people bought and used such boosts or were rewarded such boosts that didn’t work. This is a fact. How to compensate for this is subject for discussion, not the fact or if most of player base was affected.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
It could have impacted war results. How? Suppose you used a bugged boost and used specials in the fight. The opponent ended up at 1% health and you get caught by his sp3. If the boost had worked properly, you would have ko him before he could use his sp3. So, you lost a fight you should have won. The war was decided by a single death. How can you say this didn’t happen? There were very similar situations like this in the recent wars I participated.
Besides, again, it doesn’t matter if 1 or 10000 players were affected. All affected should receive a compensation.
So, once more, how compensation should be is the only thing to be discussed. I disagree of your opinion that only loyalty should be given back. I understand you disagree from my opinion too, but you have to respect it.
You can't prove any of that was the boosts or not. What if it was because you hit a block instead of contacting the opponent and that missed hit resulted not taking enough damage off and then to do a SP and it doesn't K.O. the defender because you hit a block instead of making contact. It's not easily seen data. The tangible data is- the boosts weren't working for "x" amount of time. Compensate for that. You realize how long it would take to determine which fights were won/lost because of it? Would you like to wait a year plus for them to find that data?
No need to wait a year, just some sort of extra compensation for this. You also forgot that they didn’t warn us the boosts were not working once they discovered. I used some yesterday before I knew they were bugged, obviously Kabam was aware of it already.
And I have used units to buy revives that I could have bought using loyalty. I decided to spend the loyalty in the boosts. And what about the boosts I got from the Alliance War Crystals ? How will we be compensated for that ?
I agree that a detailed investigation mind not be possible or that it might take too long, but it still deserves some extra compensation, IMO.
Its not question of who has purchased from loyalty or got these boost from War crystals. This issue has major implications and hence:
1) All who has used these boosts should get compensated
2) Revives and potions used should also be considered
3) And also war losses as people must be using these boost under impression that it's working and will help in AW
Questions also arises about other boosts e.g. Health, Health & Attack, Power etc. Kindly confirm whether those boosts are working as intended or not.
This comment right here shows the greed of the fan base. None of us had any clue they weren't working and now you are sitting here trying to come up with ways to ask for more than just the spent loyalty. @Tayyab82 your comment is so far off base its crazy. Most people aren't using the 8/10/12% during war. They are using 150/200% more often.
We should ONLY get loyalty back and that's it. Nothing else is needed or warranted. Heck they could never have told us and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
As for the other boosts you said, you can clearly see they are working correctly. Stop trying to work that angle as well. You aren't getting compensated for those either.
First of all since we are aware of issue now and we having this conversation on forum, I have right to put my points here. Argue upon it, don't use harsh words and try create a perception.
Now back to my point. Do you get these boosts only from loyalty? From what I have seen War Crystal also often throws these boosts. The purpose of boost is to help your attack, never mind if you using it in war or quest, hence if boost ain't working as intended and someone has to use rev or potion he has all rights to ask for compensation.
Also please check before writing, on other boosts I am clearly asking for a confirmation from Mods on whether they are working as intended or not since till 2 days back none of us were aware of issue with 8/ 10/ 12 boost. I don't see any wrong in it.
No need to wait a year, just some sort of extra compensation for this. You also forgot that they didn’t warn us the boosts were not working once they discovered. I used some yesterday before I knew they were bugged, obviously Kabam was aware of it already.
And I have used units to buy revives that I could have bought using loyalty. I decided to spend the loyalty in the boosts. And what about the boosts I got from the Alliance War Crystals ? How will we be compensated for that ?
I agree that a detailed investigation mind not be possible or that it might take too long, but it still deserves some extra compensation, IMO.
War crystal boosts are free. You didn't buy them at all so you shouldn't even get anything for them. You just want extra stuff. You are taking this opportunity to beg for more free stuff that wasn't part of the problem. You don't know when they found out as Adora has already said it was a very recent discovery.
First of all since we are aware of issue now and we having this conversation on forum, I have right to put my points here. Argue upon it, don't use harsh words and try create a perception.
Now back to my point. Do you get these boosts only from loyalty? From what I have seen War Crystal also often throws these boosts. The purpose of boost is to help your attack, never mind if you using it in war or quest, hence if boost ain't working as intended and someone has to use rev or potion he has all rights to ask for compensation.
Also please check before writing, on other boosts I am clearly asking for a confirmation from Mods on whether they are working as intended or not since till 2 days back none of us were aware of issue with 8/ 10/ 12 boost. I don't see any wrong in it.
Again, war crystals are free from either losing or winning. You didn't buy those crystals. Up until yesterday, you thought they worked just fine and now that you know they weren't you are trying to place blame of dying on the solely on the boosts themselves. Adora has already said compensation will only be loyalty. There is not 100% method to determine if you lost a fight because of the boost or your own skill.
I used a ton on LOL and needed to use units because they did not work. Not crappy compensation and the oh we are sorry. This is a bigger deal then you are making it. Loyalty is not the main issue here. It is the units used for it not working and the deaths that occurred
You didn't know they didn't work so you didn't use units because they didn't work. You are just now finding it out.
I used a ton on LOL and needed to use units because they did not work. Not crappy compensation and the oh we are sorry. This is a bigger deal then you are making it. Loyalty is not the main issue here. It is the units used for it not working and the deaths that occurred
You didn't know they didn't work so you didn't use units because they didn't work. You are just now finding it out.
Why are you being so rude and putting so much effort in trying to invalidate others opinions?
We all have the right to express our opinions and Kabam is the only who should be answering us, not you. Unless you are speaking on their behalf.
I used a ton on LOL and needed to use units because they did not work. Not crappy compensation and the oh we are sorry. This is a bigger deal then you are making it. Loyalty is not the main issue here. It is the units used for it not working and the deaths that occurred
You didn't know they didn't work so you didn't use units because they didn't work. You are just now finding it out.
Your thought process is staggering. Whether it’s “free” or not it’s a reward you’re working for. It would be like if your job paid you with fake money. But you never spent it so you didn’t know. Then one day realized you couldn’t cuz it’s not real.
You can’t say “if you do X you’ll get Y” and the whole time Y is nothing....
Take soap or medicine or toothpaste for example. Imagine years or using these items then someone says “hey sorry about that. These don’t actually do anything”
I used a ton on LOL and needed to use units because they did not work. Not crappy compensation and the oh we are sorry. This is a bigger deal then you are making it. Loyalty is not the main issue here. It is the units used for it not working and the deaths that occurred
You didn't know they didn't work so you didn't use units because they didn't work. You are just now finding it out.
Why are you being so rude and putting so much effort in trying to invalidate others opinions?
We all have the right to express our opinions and Kabam is the only who should be answering us, not you. Unless you are speaking on their behalf.
Because you are asking for compensation for something else besides the issue. You want more free stuff so you are using this as a platform to ask for it.
No need to wait a year, just some sort of extra compensation for this. You also forgot that they didn’t warn us the boosts were not working once they discovered. I used some yesterday before I knew they were bugged, obviously Kabam was aware of it already.
And I have used units to buy revives that I could have bought using loyalty. I decided to spend the loyalty in the boosts. And what about the boosts I got from the Alliance War Crystals ? How will we be compensated for that ?
I agree that a detailed investigation mind not be possible or that it might take too long, but it still deserves some extra compensation, IMO.
War crystal boosts are free. You didn't buy them at all so you shouldn't even get anything for them. You just want extra stuff. You are taking this opportunity to beg for more free stuff that wasn't part of the problem. You don't know when they found out as Adora has already said it was a very recent discovery.
First of all since we are aware of issue now and we having this conversation on forum, I have right to put my points here. Argue upon it, don't use harsh words and try create a perception.
Now back to my point. Do you get these boosts only from loyalty? From what I have seen War Crystal also often throws these boosts. The purpose of boost is to help your attack, never mind if you using it in war or quest, hence if boost ain't working as intended and someone has to use rev or potion he has all rights to ask for compensation.
Also please check before writing, on other boosts I am clearly asking for a confirmation from Mods on whether they are working as intended or not since till 2 days back none of us were aware of issue with 8/ 10/ 12 boost. I don't see any wrong in it.
Again, war crystals are free from either losing or winning. You didn't buy those crystals. Up until yesterday, you thought they worked just fine and now that you know they weren't you are trying to place blame of dying on the solely on the boosts themselves. Adora has already said compensation will only be loyalty. There is not 100% method to determine if you lost a fight because of the boost or your own skill.
What free crystals you are talking about? Do you get those War crystal even when you are not participating. NO. So how come it's free. Will you call AW season rewards free? Will you be ok if those rewards you getting in the end doesn't work as intended? One have to participate putting time and effort to get these crystals and hence whatever Items we are getting from those crystals has to work. If they ain't, we have right to ask for compensation
War is free to participate in? You don't pay to play AW.... so yes they are free.
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Hopefully this won’t get lost under the rug aswell.
Thanks.
@Doomsfist79 I think that was a different issue. OP was talking about the 200% boosts which give you power based on the damage you do, but in LOL you don't do enough damage for them to make a significant difference.
I just watched that again. Extended Cuts. 12 hours of Film. I'm on The Hobbit again now. Extended, naturally. Never get tired of it.
The LotR movies are my favorite movies of all time. I like The Hobbit movies too, but not quite as much.
I'm still bitter the family didn't allow them to produce The Simarillion.
This comment right here shows the greed of the fan base. None of us had any clue they weren't working and now you are sitting here trying to come up with ways to ask for more than just the spent loyalty. @Tayyab82 your comment is so far off base its crazy. Most people aren't using the 8/10/12% during war. They are using 150/200% more often.
We should ONLY get loyalty back and that's it. Nothing else is needed or warranted. Heck they could never have told us and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
As for the other boosts you said, you can clearly see they are working correctly. Stop trying to work that angle as well. You aren't getting compensated for those either.
Did you know they were bugged? Nope and you still wouldn't know if they were bugged if they didn't say anything. The boost didn't cost you the war. They are sp1/sp2 boosts. They assisted in helping the fight but they don't win the fight for you. Like I said, most people are using the 150/200% boosts and those aren't bugged. You aren't going to get anything but loyalty and that should be just fine. Stop trying add to it.
You keep missing the point...
@TimeTraveler There isn't any point to miss. The boosts were bugged. You will get compensated with loyalty for the boosts that were bugged that you used/bought. End of story.
It could have impacted war results. How? Suppose you used a bugged boost and used specials in the fight. The opponent ended up at 1% health and you get caught by his sp3. If the boost had worked properly, you would have ko him before he could use his sp3. So, you lost a fight you should have won. The war was decided by a single death. How can you say this didn’t happen? There were very similar situations like this in the recent wars I participated.
Besides, again, it doesn’t matter if 1 or 10000 players were affected. All affected should receive a compensation.
So, once more, how compensation should be is the only thing to be discussed. I disagree of your opinion that only loyalty should be given back. I understand you disagree from my opinion too, but you have to respect it.
You can't prove any of that was the boosts or not. What if it was because you hit a block instead of contacting the opponent and that missed hit resulted not taking enough damage off and then to do a SP and it doesn't K.O. the defender because you hit a block instead of making contact. It's not easily seen data. The tangible data is- the boosts weren't working for "x" amount of time. Compensate for that. You realize how long it would take to determine which fights were won/lost because of it? Would you like to wait a year plus for them to find that data?
No need to wait a year, just some sort of extra compensation for this. You also forgot that they didn’t warn us the boosts were not working once they discovered. I used some yesterday before I knew they were bugged, obviously Kabam was aware of it already.
And I have used units to buy revives that I could have bought using loyalty. I decided to spend the loyalty in the boosts. And what about the boosts I got from the Alliance War Crystals ? How will we be compensated for that ?
I agree that a detailed investigation mind not be possible or that it might take too long, but it still deserves some extra compensation, IMO.
I 100% agree with you. Well said.
War crystal boosts are free. You didn't buy them at all so you shouldn't even get anything for them. You just want extra stuff. You are taking this opportunity to beg for more free stuff that wasn't part of the problem. You don't know when they found out as Adora has already said it was a very recent discovery.
Again, war crystals are free from either losing or winning. You didn't buy those crystals. Up until yesterday, you thought they worked just fine and now that you know they weren't you are trying to place blame of dying on the solely on the boosts themselves. Adora has already said compensation will only be loyalty. There is not 100% method to determine if you lost a fight because of the boost or your own skill.
You didn't know they didn't work so you didn't use units because they didn't work. You are just now finding it out.
Why are you being so rude and putting so much effort in trying to invalidate others opinions?
We all have the right to express our opinions and Kabam is the only who should be answering us, not you. Unless you are speaking on their behalf.
Your thought process is staggering. Whether it’s “free” or not it’s a reward you’re working for. It would be like if your job paid you with fake money. But you never spent it so you didn’t know. Then one day realized you couldn’t cuz it’s not real.
You can’t say “if you do X you’ll get Y” and the whole time Y is nothing....
Take soap or medicine or toothpaste for example. Imagine years or using these items then someone says “hey sorry about that. These don’t actually do anything”
Because you are asking for compensation for something else besides the issue. You want more free stuff so you are using this as a platform to ask for it.
War is free to participate in? You don't pay to play AW.... so yes they are free.