Reverse healing

King363672

How reverse healing works .
Void can shutdown opponents health gain by 100% . Means no healing .
How it get reverse .
Void can also shutdown enemy power gain but opponents still get power when I hit them .

Ahitlaw

You need the despair mastery...well so do I haha

Ahitlaw

N u have to put a petrify debuffs on them

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Each stack of petrify reduces healing and power gain abilities by 50%.
So 2x stacks of petrify, stops healing and power gain. But if you have the despair mastery, any debuff applied on the enemy will reduce their regen abilities. Since Despair is calculated first before the Petrify, adding all up will go to negative healing (reverse healing)

A duped void can cause a "Fear of The Void" passive ability on the opponent, which has the same properties as all of his intimating debuffs (it has -100% healing and power gain that comes from the petrify debuffs, as well as the anti-evade and anti-crit from his other debuffs). If after that he stacks another petrify, it will be -150% healing and power gain, and 2x petrify's + Fear of the Void will be -200% healing and power gain (not counting the interaction between despair and other debuffs applied)

DragonFire2

While I’m not an expert, I can say that my understanding is with the despair mastery, healing potency is reduced by 15% per debuff. So in theory, you could stack enough debuffs to where that 15% just keeps adding and eventually it reduces healing to a negative amount. I don’t have Void so I can’t speak as to how FOTV and all that works. But I do have CAIW, who also can inflict Petrify like Void. That one reduces healing potency by X% (25% in CAIW’s case), similar to despair. So you could also make the healing percent negative by stacking those and combining it with the despair mastery.

King363672

Thanks everyone .

King363672

Is void good for masochism .
Any other champs for masochism .

DragonFire2

Void would be awful against masochism, his debuffs would keep getting removed and would regenerate the opponent every time. Champs with high base damage and few debuffs such as Star-Lord are best against masochism, Blade with danger sense could work, Stark Spidey does as well if you’ve got poise charges built up, because he’ll hit hard enough to overcome the regen. Now as for Void being on a masochism node for your own defense, he wouldn’t be terrible but there are better options.

Mother_Flerken

DragonFire2 wrote: »

Void would be awful against masochism, his debuffs would keep getting removed and would regenerate the opponent every time. Champs with high base damage and few debuffs such as Star-Lord are best against masochism, Blade with danger sense could work, Stark Spidey does as well if you’ve got poise charges built up, because he’ll hit hard enough to overcome the regen. Now as for Void being on a masochism node for your own defense, he wouldn’t be terrible but there are better options.

Yeah why not actually try void against masochism before spouting nonsense. Void destroys masochism.

His debuffs would keep getting removed... lol you need to learn how to control things a bit better as it's really not hard at all to get the debuffs needed up and make masochism work for you.

Vern

The mechanics of Void's heal reversal is explained by Brian Grant in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlpgz59GOWI&t=922s

(3:20 mark thereabouts)

VeeTeeTee

best champ for masochism is proxima. She decreases ability accuracy on parry so won't trigger masochism.
she's also great against any champ that can trigger some abilities when parried, like for example Ironman Infinity War. I think she was actually designed specifically to counter this champ. She can parry him endlessly.
she's also great against champs whose first attack is a projectile (Yondu, Domino) because she is able to parry projectiles. And, on top of that she's also a very valuable option against evaders.

another great champs against masochism is Sabretooth, but I think he needs Killmonger synergy

Void is also great, but you need to make sure you apply his intimidating debufs after masochism activated (so for example right after a parry that is removed by masochism)

Gildenlow

Sabretooth with killmongers synergy is the best answer for masochism

VeeTeeTee

Gildenlow wrote: »

Sabretooth with killmongers synergy is the best answer for masochism

that's debatable. have you tested PM?

King363672

Worst thing is that I don't have sabertooth and proxima midnight

DragonFire2

Anyone with high base damage and few debuffs is good- Stark Spidey usually can overcome the regen when he gets a lot of poise charges. I’d imagine SL is the same way once you rack up a decent combo.