A Fan(tastic) Discussion!

Hey y’all!

As you know, we’ve recently introduced Thing into The Contest along with one of his team’s evil counterparts, Diablo. This is extremely exciting for us and we hope it also is for you! We wanted to start up a discussion that was inspired by the fact that some in the community didn’t know who Diablo was and to learn more about the community’s history with the Fantastic Four.

But first, we wanted to share this video our team made that discusses a bit more about Thing and our selection of Diablo. If you haven’t watched it already, it’s awesome. Check out the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTin0Qli_nw

So what’d you think? Do you like bringing back the villains that may seem obscure or possibly unheard of? Let us know!

What made you a fan of the Fantastic Four and what is your favorite incarnation or story? Was there a certain arc in the comics? Or was it one of the movie adaptions? (And yes, the 1994 movie does count as an option.) Maybe it was the 90s cartoon or even the 1960s. There are so many options and we’re curious to know!

For me, I watched the 90s cartoon growing up and really enjoyed the characters from there, however, it isn’t my favorite story arc. My favorite actually has me going back to the comics. The show got me into it, but the best comics were the ones that had Doctor Doom in them. In fact, his debut comic is still one of my favorites! If you’re curious to what that is, you can find it online easily! It’s Issue #5 (July 1962), the Fantastic Four Meet Doctor Doom!

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Colinwhitworth69

They have some great villains that I hope to see in the movies and in MCOC. I'm not sure Reed Richards' abilities will ever translate into the movies (because it looks goofy), but it would work in the animated world of the game.

You did well with your intro of The Thing. Looking forward to the next step.

Prox

So whos gonna be 4 th villain considering second and third will be Galactus and doc doom

Savio444

I hadn’t heard of Diablo until he entered the game, so I think it’s good that you add less known marvel character to the game, and hope you continue to do so.

Kabam Vydious

Savio444 wrote: »

I hadn’t heard of Diablo until he entered the game, so I think it’s good that you add less known marvel character to the game, and hope you continue to do so.

Glad we could introduce him to you!

DrZola

@Kabam Vydious that video made me chuckle. Good old Saturday morning cartoons...

As for villains, I would love to see Annihilus. His insect minions could be the new Sentinels for AQ. Introducing the Negative Zone would open a number of different options for the Battlerealm.

Obviously, the original “This Man...This Monster” comic is a classic (FF#51). But I loved the John Byrne run in FF during his run in the early half of the ‘80’s. Notable among those stories was the impact of the Skrulls Reed hypnotized after they turned into cows in FF#2 and the impact of Skrullcow meat and milk on a whole community twenty years later. Also loved the romp the FF took through a futuristic West world during Byrne’s run and I somehow can’t shake the mid-‘70’s tragic story of Darkoth (who was actually a test pilot friend of Ben Grimm), his transformation at the hands of Doom and his apparent demise at the hands of Diablo. That one made me sad as a kid for poor Darkoth.

So many great FF tales...

Dr. Zola

Savio444

Kabam Vydious wrote: »

Savio444 wrote: »

I hadn’t heard of Diablo until he entered the game, so I think it’s good that you add less known marvel character to the game, and hope you continue to do so.

Glad we could introduce him to you!

Thanks 🙂

mum_m2

Seriously I had no idea who half the marvel universe characters were before playing this game. Gwen Pool, magik, moon knight, Scarlet Witch(not named so in mcu really) spider Gwen just to name a few. I like that the game introduces some lesser knowns.

Just make the champs unique and simple to utilize and I'll be happy

Kabam Vydious

mum_m2 wrote: »

Seriously I had no idea who half the marvel universe characters were before playing this game. Gwen Pool, magik, moon knight, Scarlet Witch(not named so in mcu really) spider Gwen just to name a few. I like that the game introduces some lesser knowns.

Just make the champs unique and simple to utilize and I'll be happy

I honestly can relate to this! I like to think I know plenty enough about Marvel but I didn't know who Sentry or Void was until our game brought them in. I went back and checked into them more, of course, but it's amazing just how many characters are out there!

Makes me excited about the future! Adding Diablo was a cool testament too to characters that aren't that known. You should check out his debut comic (FF#30) and others!

Kabam Vydious

DrZola wrote: »

@Kabam Vydious that video made me chuckle. Good old Saturday morning cartoons...

As for villains, I would love to see Annihilus. His insect minions could be the new Sentinels for AQ. Introducing the Negative Zone would open a number of different options for the Battlerealm.

Obviously, the original “This Man...This Monster” comic is a classic (FF#51). But I loved the John Byrne run in FF during his run in the early half of the ‘80’s. Notable among those stories was the impact of the Skrulls Reed hypnotized after they turned into cows in FF#2 and the impact of Skrullcow meat and milk on a whole community twenty years later. Also loved the romp the FF took through a futuristic West world during Byrne’s run and I somehow can’t shake the mid-‘70’s tragic story of Darkoth (who was actually a test pilot friend of Ben Grimm), his transformation at the hands of Doom and his apparent demise at the hands of Diablo. That one made me sad as a kid for poor Darkoth.

So many great FF tales...

Dr. Zola

I can't count the times that Marvel has pulled my heartstrings, but they've done just so amazing with the FF stories that it's hard not to be so invested in wherever they show up. Even their zany tales (Skrullcow) get me so interested in what's going to happen.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who loved their little West storyline.

Thanks for sharing, Zola!!

Kabam Vydious

Colinwhitworth69 wrote: »

They have some great villains that I hope to see in the movies and in MCOC. I'm not sure Reed Richards' abilities will ever translate into the movies (because it looks goofy), but it would work in the animated world of the game.

You did well with your intro of The Thing. Looking forward to the next step.

Thank you! We're really glad you think so! We've been super excited to share him with y'all.

Honestly Mr. Fantastic in the cartoons was always such a weird thing to me even. The movies did good, but I can agree it seems odd at times watching someone stretch like that.

Primmer79

Annihilus.

'Nuff said on that subject.

Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus, and their implications, excite me more than the ACTUAL F4.

The recent run of Infamous Iron man is great.

I can't recall exact details, but Wolverine and Spidey in the F4 for an infinity gauntlet storyline was a good one.

Kabam Vydious

ZombieZedd wrote: »

Dr.Doom
I just hope he comes to contest and be one of the best champs ever . That's it .

I see you too are a fan of Doctor Doom. Good taste.

Crushtest

Don't wanna to offend anyone, but I hope this post (which topic is great) isn't a part of Marvel's multiverse advertising of fantastic four week? :-)

Kabam Vydious

Primmer79 wrote: »

Annihilus.

'Nuff said on that subject.

Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus, and their implications, excite me more than the ACTUAL F4.

The recent run of Infamous Iron man is great.

I can't recall exact details, but Wolverine and Spidey in the F4 for an infinity gauntlet storyline was a good one.

What's the run for the Infinity Gauntlet? Was that the New Fantastic Four? I, unfortunately, have yet to get into that one.

Also, low-key, I'm a huge fan of the Villains in F4's universe so I understand that. Don't get me wrong, the Human Torch is one of my favorites-- but, Doctor Doom.

Primmer79

Kabam Vydious wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Annihilus.

'Nuff said on that subject.

Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus, and their implications, excite me more than the ACTUAL F4.

The recent run of Infamous Iron man is great.

I can't recall exact details, but Wolverine and Spidey in the F4 for an infinity gauntlet storyline was a good one.

What's the run for the Infinity Gauntlet? Was that the New Fantastic Four? I, unfortunately, have yet to get into that one.

Also, low-key, I'm a huge fan of the Villains in F4's universe so I understand that. Don't get me wrong, the Human Torch is one of my favorites-- but, Doctor Doom.

"What if? Newer Fantastic Four" I think was the title of it. (For some strange reason, I am only get MCU theory articles trying to find more details)

I believe Hulk, Iron man, Wolverine, and Spider-man were the 4 in this run. I tend to get real into the "What if?" storylines.

Kabam Vydious

Primmer79 wrote: »

"What if? Newer Fantastic Four" I think was the title of it. (For some strange reason, I am only get MCU theory articles trying to find more details)

I believe Hulk, Iron man, Wolverine, and Spider-man were the 4 in this run. I tend to get real into the "What if?" storylines.

Oh awesome! Thanks for the information drop, Primmer! I'll have to check that out. I'm a big fan of "What If?" storylines too. They're really intriguing.

TheBig0

I like that you add characters that most people don’t know. It gives you a chance to research them, and bond with the character because of the game.

Also, my favourite character is also Dr Doom in the F4 universe. I hope we see him this year!

Sundance_2099

my introduction to the F4 was kinda weird. See, in the UK comics tend to be anthologies, with multiple stories in, unlike how they're printed in the US with just one 20-odd page story. When I was a kind in the 1980s, I was into reading Marvel UK's various tie-in comics - Transformers, Real Ghostbusters, Action Force (the UK name for GI Joe at the time) and Thundercats. With Transformers and Thundercats, they didn't just run Transformers stories, like Ghostbusters and AF did only those characters. (TRGB ran 2 strip stories and a prose one that were all UK originated; AF tended to run a UK original story and part of a US issue, typically splitting one issue into about 4 parts) Thundercats would run a prose story and a strip and then for a *long* time of the comic, they were running reprints of Power Pack, which for those who don't know, is a Marvel superhero series about four pre-teen kids from one family who gain superpowers from a dying alien. During the PP series, they met up with various Marvel heroes like Beta Ray Bill and Spider-Man. They also met Franklin Richards, who was about 5 or 6 at the time, and he became the 5th PP member. When he got dragged into their shenanigans, Reed and Sue didn't know what had happened to him and took Torch and She-Hulk (who at the time had replaced Thing in the F4, post-Secret Wars) to investigate his disappearance. I was about 12 at the time I encountered the F4 in this way, as I got a job-lot of Thundercats comics from a school-friend that he didn't want any more.

I later found out about the Thing when I got a Top Trumps Super Heroes deck, although all I knew was he was apparently in the 4 and was an orange rocky-looking guy. The same deck introduced me to Wolverine, Daredevil, Silver Surfer, and a bunch of others I knew the names of and not much else...

Buttehrs

Any chance reed and his wifes children make it in too? Franklin is one of the strongest characters in marvel

Kabam Vydious

Sundance_2099 wrote: »

I later found out about the Thing when I got a Top Trumps Super Heroes deck, although all I knew was he was apparently in the 4 and was an orange rocky-looking guy. The same deck introduced me to Wolverine, Daredevil, Silver Surfer, and a bunch of others I knew the names of and not much else...

I had no idea it was like that!

What a ride to get to knowing these characters! When you eventually knew about Thing and more of the F4, did you like him more in there over She-Hulk? Or did having She-Hulk be part of your introduction to them kind of put a place in your heart?

Kabam Vydious

TheBig0 wrote: »

I like that you add characters that most people don’t know. It gives you a chance to research them, and bond with the character because of the game.

Also, my favourite character is also Dr Doom in the F4 universe. I hope we see him this year!

Another with good taste!!

But also, we're really glad you like that we add these types of characters! Some of them might even end up becoming another favorite to someone and that's always so much fun.

DNA3000

DrZola wrote: »

Obviously, the original “This Man...This Monster” comic is a classic (FF#51). But I loved the John Byrne run in FF during his run in the early half of the ‘80’s. Notable among those stories was the impact of the Skrulls Reed hypnotized after they turned into cows in FF#2 and the impact of Skrullcow meat and milk on a whole community twenty years later.

Interesting to reflect on this story when you consider where ISO-8 comes from.

Kabam Zibiit

Primmer79 wrote: »

Kabam Vydious wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Annihilus.

'Nuff said on that subject.

Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus, and their implications, excite me more than the ACTUAL F4.

The recent run of Infamous Iron man is great.

I can't recall exact details, but Wolverine and Spidey in the F4 for an infinity gauntlet storyline was a good one.

What's the run for the Infinity Gauntlet? Was that the New Fantastic Four? I, unfortunately, have yet to get into that one.

Also, low-key, I'm a huge fan of the Villains in F4's universe so I understand that. Don't get me wrong, the Human Torch is one of my favorites-- but, Doctor Doom.

"What if? Newer Fantastic Four" I think was the title of it. (For some strange reason, I am only get MCU theory articles trying to find more details)

I believe Hulk, Iron man, Wolverine, and Spider-man were the 4 in this run. I tend to get real into the "What if?" storylines.

I really enjoy some of those "What If?" comics. One of my favorites was the one where Tony Stark was the one who became Sorcerer Supreme!

Lovejoy72

I’m not sure Diablo is necessarily evil? I mean, I think the guy is just trying to have a good time, mix a few drinks, do some magic tricks. Seems cool.

Kabam Vydious

Lovejoy72 wrote: »

I’m not sure Diablo is necessarily evil? I mean, I think the guy is just trying to have a good time, mix a few drinks, do some magic tricks. Seems cool.

Just some misunderstood guy, right?

DrZola

DNA3000 wrote: »

DrZola wrote: »

Obviously, the original “This Man...This Monster” comic is a classic (FF#51). But I loved the John Byrne run in FF during his run in the early half of the ‘80’s. Notable among those stories was the impact of the Skrulls Reed hypnotized after they turned into cows in FF#2 and the impact of Skrullcow meat and milk on a whole community twenty years later.

Interesting to reflect on this story when you consider where ISO-8 comes from.

Indeed!

Dr. Zola

P.S. Nice thread @Kabam Vydious. Need more of these.

Jdub1250

Vydious, thanks for making this thread. It's really refreshing to see a conversation without negativity on here. Dont really have anything in particular to share this time, but I felt like I should at least leave a positive comment.

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BlackFreQuency

it's good to see everyone is having fun with Fan(tastic)s world

maybe we can have a symbiote Discussion!! then you can all enter my world