Killmonger indestructible " broken"?

hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
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I was in uncollected mister sinister fight and I wanted to watch his sp3 because it was my first uncollected so I hit him with killmonger's sp2 and he was pushed to his sp3 I had 4 indestructible charges still I was K.Oed!! Why?

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  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Does he have a nullify on his sp3?
  • hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
    No way he doesn't have anything at all and the indestructible charges are passive...kabam mods any help? @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Wolf ?
  • Anurag1606Anurag1606 Member Posts: 1,182 ★★★
    This is true. Km sp2 indestructible doesn't save him from sinisters sp3. The AAR should come in effect after the sp3 animation is over. Concussion is a debuff which is applied after a special whereas km if has indestructible prior to taking sp3 should be protected by sp3 animation. This needs to be looked in.
  • hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
    Championcritic wrote: »
    Sp3 does inflict concussion which has 100% ability accuracy reduction. The issue now is whether the reduction comes into effect during or after the animation. If during, then likely the reduction prevented the indestructible charges from saving you or something. But thats just my guess

    Nope his concussion comes after his sp3 animations and even if it comes before my charges were active prior to it and then if the concussion reduced my AAR then my sp2 wouldn't have trigger the charges and taking damge while charges active is a bug in my knowledge
  • Nemsa_M4nNemsa_M4n Member Posts: 97 ★
    Also noticed that with indestructible charges KM will still suffer from a bleed from specials such as deadpool which makes a mockery of being indestructible
  • Anurag1606Anurag1606 Member Posts: 1,182 ★★★
    Nemsa_M4n wrote: »
    Also noticed that with indestructible charges KM will still suffer from a bleed from specials such as deadpool which makes a mockery of being indestructible

    As far as I know, it only prevents the instant damage and not the DOT effects. So bleed is not valid but yeah km should be able to tank sinisters sp3 . Only if concussion are already present and then km gains indestructible and while concussion present he takes sp3 then it's understandable that he gets the damage.
  • Mike12867Mike12867 Member Posts: 477 ★★★
    Concussions or any effects are applied as soon as SP3 initiates. Thats the reason why Domino is popular on AoN since she can shut down everything.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Anurag1606 wrote: »
    Nemsa_M4n wrote: »
    Also noticed that with indestructible charges KM will still suffer from a bleed from specials such as deadpool which makes a mockery of being indestructible

    As far as I know, it only prevents the instant damage and not the DOT effects. So bleed is not valid but yeah km should be able to tank sinisters sp3 . Only if concussion are already present and then km gains indestructible and while concussion present he takes sp3 then it's understandable that he gets the damage.

    this is correct, any champ that is indestructible will still take incidental damage, such as dominos passive ability damage.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,077 ★★★★★
    His indestructible is different that Luke Cage's indestructible.
    For killmongers, it only works on hits received. For luke cage, it works for evey damage during the time it's active
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    will-o-wisp wrote: »
    His indestructible is different that Luke Cage's indestructible.
    For killmongers, it only works on hits received. For luke cage, it works for evey damage during the time it's active

    luke will still take damge from those incidentals, such as domino
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,077 ★★★★★
    Lormif wrote: »
    will-o-wisp wrote: »
    His indestructible is different that Luke Cage's indestructible.
    For killmongers, it only works on hits received. For luke cage, it works for evey damage during the time it's active

    luke will still take damge from those incidentals, such as domino

    He doesn't take damage from them, or any damage while it's active
  • hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
    Just to clear, Luke doesn't take any damage while his indestructible active except poison etc but killmonger indestructible are charges and passive too once triggered killmonger does not take damage from one single source...l3 counts as one source so he'd not to take any damage and
    Mike12867 wrote: »
    Concussions or any effects are applied as soon as SP3 initiates. Thats the reason why Domino is popular on AoN since she can shut down everything.

    As I said once triggered indestructibility....km doesn't take damage from sp3 but he will surely take the bleed damage
  • hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
    edited February 2019
    Nemsa_M4n wrote: »
    Also noticed that with indestructible charges KM will still suffer from a bleed from specials such as deadpool which makes a mockery of being indestructible

    No it was a bug which was resolved later
  • hiddenblizzardhiddenblizzard Member Posts: 506 ★★
    Still waiting for any mods to clarify
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,077 ★★★★★
    It's really for the concussion ... It's applied during the special attack.
  • TheSovietDJTheSovietDJ Member Posts: 55 ★
    What do you expect from a new champ? No bugs, lol?
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  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Mike12867 wrote: »
    Concussions or any effects are applied as soon as SP3 initiates. Thats the reason why Domino is popular on AoN since she can shut down everything.
    Only thing is her aa reduction was applied before the sp3 was launched
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,410 ★★★★★
    There are some priority and order of operations rules that need to be cleared up. Luke Cage and Magik’s L3 and these AAR vs passive buffs interactions makes as much sense as when recoil used to happen before the special.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 6,029 ★★★★★
    edited February 2019
    Championcritic wrote: »
    Sp3 does inflict concussion which has 100% ability accuracy reduction. The issue now is whether the reduction comes into effect during or after the animation. If during, then likely the reduction prevented the indestructible charges from saving you or something. But thats just my guess
    Anurag1606 wrote: »
    This is true. Km sp2 indestructible doesn't save him from sinisters sp3. The AAR should come in effect after the sp3 animation is over. Concussion is a debuff which is applied after a special whereas km if has indestructible prior to taking sp3 should be protected by sp3 animation. This needs to be looked in.

    @Championcritic and @Mike12867 are dead right, @hiddenblizzard.

    Why should the concussion AAR only come in after the SP3?

    Armour Break doesn't (Thor, HB, IM, SIM)
    Magik's nullify doesn't (that's why she can take down Luke Cage when he's indestructible)
    Sabertooth's Fury doesn't (it specifically said so in his spotlight)

    There are probably others I haven't thought of; but the precedent seems pretty clear to me.

    The AAR was active during the SP3, and stopped your KM from utilising his Indestructible charges. If he had survived the SP3, your KM would still have had his 4 charges intact.
  • Mike12867Mike12867 Member Posts: 477 ★★★
    edited February 2019
    Magrailothos wrote: »
    Championcritic wrote: »
    Sp3 does inflict concussion which has 100% ability accuracy reduction. The issue now is whether the reduction comes into effect during or after the animation. If during, then likely the reduction prevented the indestructible charges from saving you or something. But thats just my guess
    Anurag1606 wrote: »
    This is true. Km sp2 indestructible doesn't save him from sinisters sp3. The AAR should come in effect after the sp3 animation is over. Concussion is a debuff which is applied after a special whereas km if has indestructible prior to taking sp3 should be protected by sp3 animation. This needs to be looked in.

    @Championcritic and @Mike12867 are dead right, @hiddenblizzard.

    Why should the concussion AAR only come in after the SP3?

    Armour Break doesn't (Thor, HB, IM, SIM)
    Magik's nullify doesn't (that's why she can take down Luke Cage when he's indestructible)
    Sabertooth's Fury doesn't (it specifically said so in his spotlight)

    There are probably others I haven't thought of; but the precedent seems pretty clear to me.

    The AAR was active during the SP3, and stopped your KM from utilising his Indestructible charges. If he had survived the SP3, your KM would still have had his 4 charges intact.

    I think thats what i said too lol, SP3 activates his concussion so indest. wont work. But it does work for Ghost with hood synergy tho
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