Spider-Gwen VS She-Hulk

Judging from the videos released, She-Hulk looks A LOT better than Spider-Gwen. She can build up furies like crazy and constantly crits. Seeing Seatins video, a fully ramped up Spider-Gwen 5/65 barely hit 60k whilst She-Hulk 5/65 was hitting almost 33k per Medium hit. Is it that Spider-Gwen is once again falling behind or that She-Hulk is too op? Personally, I would like to see Spider-Gwens charges go up to maybe 8 or 10 and decrease her evade chance from 5-3 % to make up for that, also bring back armour Breaks.

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The_Boss9

She hulk sure has great damage but takes a while to build up. You aren’t gonna be seeing 30 furys in a regular day act 5 fight. Spidergwen has a lot of utility, infinite evicerste and shuts down evade and unstoppable. She hulk is damage, spidergwen is utility imo

Tiger360

The_Boss9 wrote: »

She hulk sure has great damage but takes a while to build up. You aren’t gonna be seeing 30 furys in a regular day act 5 fight. Spidergwen has a lot of utility, infinite evicerste and shuts down evade and unstoppable. She hulk is damage, spidergwen is utility imo

Didn't really look at it that way, fair point. But shulk is still a beast for LOL and I saw Seatin playing SGwen on ROL and she also looks awesome, roughly 130 hits per boss

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Tiger360

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

If this game followed the comics in terms of feats then I'm pretty sure people like Blade, Starky etc would be much lower down and Sentry, thanos etc would be god tier +

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Kobster84

The_Boss9 wrote: »

She hulk sure has great damage but takes a while to build up. You aren’t gonna be seeing 30 furys in a regular day act 5 fight. Spidergwen has a lot of utility, infinite evicerste and shuts down evade and unstoppable. She hulk is damage, spidergwen is utility imo

She hulk stops evade and unstoppable to plus she also has long parries poison immune petrify taunt if hardly say she hulk is just damage

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The_Boss9

Kobster84 wrote: »

The_Boss9 wrote: »

She hulk sure has great damage but takes a while to build up. You aren’t gonna be seeing 30 furys in a regular day act 5 fight. Spidergwen has a lot of utility, infinite evicerste and shuts down evade and unstoppable. She hulk is damage, spidergwen is utility imo

She hulk stops evade and unstoppable to plus she also has long parries poison immune petrify taunt if hardly say she hulk is just damage

Didn't mean she's ONLY damage just that her strongest ability is damage

Noob2435

I like spider gwen more personality, I see myself using her for everyday fights more then she hulk.

axelelf_1

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

So, they’re making her awesome and you’d rather they not? No, she’s good as is. Takes some luck and skill to get that damage ramped up properly. Hopefully, they’ll use this buff as a benchmark when buffing other champs.

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Yellow8Fellow

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

Well, I'm not sure if the gameplay part of a fighting game counts as character development, especially if the characters are chosen by you. In fact, the whole purpose of the fighting is to, well, fight, not develop the character motives.

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Nikskini

Wow @Tiger360 we think same about spidergwen I have been saying same thing about SG to my friends that kabam should increase spider sense cap and give her armour break back interesting

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axelelf_1

My_Superior wrote: »

axelelf_1 wrote: »

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

So, they’re making her awesome and you’d rather they not? No, she’s good as is. Takes some luck and skill to get that damage ramped up properly. Hopefully, they’ll use this buff as a benchmark when buffing other champs.

You sure like fighting straw men. You don’t need to reframe my argument; of course I’d like her to be awesome but, as an actual fan of She-Hulk, I’d also like her to be true to her character. Both are possible as she’s been awesome for decades in the comics.

Lol, that’s not how making a straw man works. You said they’re making her too good, I said “you don’t want them to?”
I didn’t reframe your argument, I just shortened it.

cx23433

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

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Tiger360

Nikskini wrote: »

Wow @Tiger360 we think same about spidergwen I have been saying same thing about SG to my friends that kabam should increase spider sense cap and give her armour break back interesting

Yeah I feel like there could be more to her

Aleor

spider gwen wins for animation at least) shehulk looks a lot better in comics then in the game actually. also maintaining her furies is kind of tiring. and just imagine losing it. I'd prefer starlord over shulk for sure. plus you have aegon somewhere there, who needs shehulk? only nice things imo are unstoppable cancellation and taunts

Sungj

My_Superior wrote: »

Honestly I think they’ve gone too far with She-Hulk. As a fan of her in the comics, I don’t see why she has endless fury and limitless damage; It’s just not accurate to her character. She’s always been about knowing her strengths and using them intelligently and precisely. Kabam has turned her into a better looking, more intelligent, stronger version of the Hulk without the weakness of blind rage. That’s poor character development as vulnerability is key to writing a suspenseful story. I dunno just my opinion. Maybe I’m a sexist pig.

She-hulk in the comics now I'm pretty sure is the strongest of the hulks even compared to Banner. In the current version unless they've changed it again, which is completely possible since I haven't really caught up on the comics She-hulk has the blind rage element to her hulk form which fits the new buffs pretty well.

Hamin

This is basically the PM vs CG debate.

PM is significantly better in ling fights; however, she can't hold a candle to Corvus in 95% of the fights.

SG will be a more useful champ in the game.

Kobster84

Hamin wrote: »

This is basically the PM vs CG debate.

PM is significantly better in ling fights; however, she can't hold a candle to Corvus in 95% of the fights.

SG will be a more useful champ in the game.

They have like the same utility and same ramp up

Hamin

Kobster84 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

This is basically the PM vs CG debate.

PM is significantly better in ling fights; however, she can't hold a candle to Corvus in 95% of the fights.

SG will be a more useful champ in the game.

They have like the same utility and same ramp up

No. No they don't.

Cranmer00

Why did they remove SG’s armor break, thought that was dumb

Yellow8Fellow

My_Superior wrote: »

@Yellow8Fellow I tried to respond but Mod needs to approve it. I’ll post something else for now...

Look at Hulk. His main emotion as a character is unbridled rage. To emulate this character trait Kabam has given him many Fury buffs and increased damage as his health falls. This, to me, is an accurate portrayal of the character as he is essentially a simple brute in the comics whose strength increases with his anger. She-Hulk seems like a hodgepodge of random effects that weren’t really inspired by the source material. I do like her signature Ability though that makes good sense to me.

True, character traits and emotions have a massive influence on their abilities, you are 100% right on that. It's one of the biggest factors I acknowledge whenever I make my character builds.

Now for She Hulk, I think she gains all those fury buffs not because she's getting pissed, rather she's getting more confident. From what I know from She-Hulk, she's always been a lot more confident with herself ever since she became a hulk. In the game, she gains a passive fury whenever the Opponent is baited into a special attack. Shulk would realize the Opponent's mistake and fight harder in the moment of opportunity, causing the Opponent to bait more Special Attacks and the whole cycle starts over. Think about how Star-Lord gets a Fury Buff or does more damage with his Sig. To me, I think Star-Lord does more damage because he's able to find some type of rhythm to his attacks (he is a music guy), making it easier to attack the Opponent. It shows that Fury effects don't really have to come from a character that's pissed. Well, from what I think.

The_Boss9

Hamin wrote: »

Kobster84 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

This is basically the PM vs CG debate.

PM is significantly better in ling fights; however, she can't hold a candle to Corvus in 95% of the fights.

SG will be a more useful champ in the game.

They have like the same utility and same ramp up

No. No they don't.

Yep, spidergwen has evicerate, extra physical damage, and able to avoid those annoying unblockable sps like for example a spiderman on unblockable sp1. Plus 100% removes evade and unstoppable( although she hulk has that too)

JChanceH9

The envinerate is more useful in the majority of fights than being able to ramp up damage over 130 hits imo. Both going to be great though.

Kobster84

JChanceH9 wrote: »

The envinerate is more useful in the majority of fights than being able to ramp up damage over 130 hits imo. Both going to be great though.

Well you also got to realize the basically have the same damage when she hulk is at 5 furies and Gwen at 6 charges

JChanceH9

Kobster84 wrote: »

Well you also got to realize the basically have the same damage when she hulk is at 5 furies and Gwen at 6 charges

I don’t understand where you’re going with that.