Colossus & Unstoppable Colossus should be immune to Poison.

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Fred_Joeity

Yes

Honestly they should be immune to everything if only to make them useful, but alas it might a while before it happens

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

XxLoganTDCxX

Yes

@will-o-wisp Why didn't you just select the "no" option?

NiteAndDae

Yes

Am inclined to agree, if anything, just to make them relevant. Forget useful or even good, relevancy is the key here. Though, on second thought, to make them more useful and have it fit the character bios, they should be incinerate immune, since you cant burn organic steel anyway. That would be better than poison immune.

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Yes

will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

Kingsfan

No

Why? They’re metal on the outside, gooey on the inside...

Hort4

No

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

Maybe you had better explain your thought because it seems illogical that they would be immune to poison. Might not be able to penetrate their skin but they can breathe or ingest it still.

V1PER1987

No

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

That’s extremely flawed logic. By this logic anyone who is bleed immune should also be poison immune.

DNA3000

NiteAndDae said:

Am inclined to agree, if anything, just to make them relevant. Forget useful or even good, relevancy is the key here. Though, on second thought, to make them more useful and have it fit the character bios, they should be incinerate immune, since you cant burn organic steel anyway. That would be better than poison immune.

You can burn steel. It isn't clear what Colossus is actually made of, since they keep changing this in the comics, but even if that material can't combust it can still be damaged by the right application of heat or other energy ("incinerate" damage in the game isn't just ordinary heat; it includes other related types of damage like Hyperion's laser beam eye attacks).

I suspect dumping chlorine trifluoride onto Colossus would cause him to burst into flames. And I suspect that would cause damage of some kind, since chlorine trifluoride can cause actual sand to burst into flames. https://curiosity.com/topics/the-stupidly-dangerous-chemical-chlorine-trifluoride-can-make-anything-burst-into-flames-on-contact-curiosity/

DNA3000

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They are immune to bleed in the game because that immunity roughly corresponds to the fact that they don't have blood or other circulatory system that would cause a slicing attack to cause additional harm over time via the loss of blood. It is important to note that Colossus is immune to bleed *effects*, but not the effects of attacks that *cause* bleed. Slicing him deals damage, because the slice itself *is* damage. But there's just no further loss of health from being cut.

Poisons work by interfering with the chemical or other molecular reactions that sustain the life of the organism. Poisons do not need to enter a bloodstream to work: animals like jellyfish with no circulation system at all can be poisoned, and poisons can work without entering the blood stream of animals that have blood. They can be absorbed and diffuse through an animal to work. If Colossus was just a block of metal, he'd be an inert paperweight. Stuff must be happening inside him, even if that stuff is happening to an all metallic body. That stuff can be interfered with.

This may no longer be canonical, but I remember that in the Handbook of the Marvel Universe it was stated that Colossus transformed into his metallic form by essentially recreating his body using osmium atoms replacing his carbon atoms while maintaining roughly the same functionality but with significantly enhanced durability. If that's still remotely canonical, then while Colossus would not be vulnerable to most normal poisons that affect normal people, simply because his body chemistry is so different from normal people, he would still theoretically be vulnerable to poisons, just ones that work on his special chemistry.

Denslo500

No

Better to think of poison as spirit poison, in this game. Anything with a spirit can be poisoned (except Inhumans).

However, in the comics, his organic steel body was extremely toxic to Dimensional Beings. I think he should get a Blade equivalent damage boost to Dimensional Beings.

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Yes

will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

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Yes

Denslo500 said:

Better to think of poison as spirit poison, in this game. Anything with a spirit can be poisoned (except Inhumans).

However, in the comics, his organic steel body was extremely toxic to Dimensional Beings. I think he should get a Blade equivalent damage boost to Dimensional Beings.

why luke cage is immune to bleed ?

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

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Yes

V1PER1987 said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

That’s extremely flawed logic. By this logic anyone who is bleed immune should also be poison immune.

you didn't get mt point they are immune to bleed bcz of their fully metallic body I am not saying everyone who is immune to bleed should be immune to poison lol.

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Yes

DNA3000 said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They are immune to bleed in the game because that immunity roughly corresponds to the fact that they don't have blood or other circulatory system that would cause a slicing attack to cause additional harm over time via the loss of blood. It is important to note that Colossus is immune to bleed *effects*, but not the effects of attacks that *cause* bleed. Slicing him deals damage, because the slice itself *is* damage. But there's just no further loss of health from being cut.

Poisons work by interfering with the chemical or other molecular reactions that sustain the life of the organism. Poisons do not need to enter a bloodstream to work: animals like jellyfish with no circulation system at all can be poisoned, and poisons can work without entering the blood stream of animals that have blood. They can be absorbed and diffuse through an animal to work. If Colossus was just a block of metal, he'd be an inert paperweight. Stuff must be happening inside him, even if that stuff is happening to an all metallic body. That stuff can be interfered with.

This may no longer be canonical, but I remember that in the Handbook of the Marvel Universe it was stated that Colossus transformed into his metallic form by essentially recreating his body using osmium atoms replacing his carbon atoms while maintaining roughly the same functionality but with significantly enhanced durability. If that's still remotely canonical, then while Colossus would not be vulnerable to most normal poisons that affect normal people, simply because his body chemistry is so different from normal people, he would still theoretically be vulnerable to poisons, just ones that work on his special chemistry.

if Poisons work by interfering with the chemical or other molecular reactions that sustain the life of the organism. And it doesn't need to enter into the bloodstream then ultron , vision and nebula should not be immune to poison.

Fred_Joeity

Yes

Maybe that’s why it says “advanced robotics” instead of “normal robotics”

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Yes

will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

Riggs_97

No

Colossus can turn his flesh and bone into organic steel via psionic interface with an alternate dimension that basically swaps his carbon based atoms with his body for osmium based ones, as described in detail above by @DNA3000. He remains an organic being, despite his amoured organic steel form. As poison can only affect organic beings via chemical reactions or another similar activity on a molecular scale, it stands to reason that Colossus can be poisoned.

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Riggs_97 said:

Colossus can turn his flesh and bone into organic steel via psionic interface with an alternate dimension that basically swaps his carbon based atoms with his body for osmium based ones, as described in detail above by @DNA3000. He remains an organic being, despite his amoured organic steel form. As poison can only affect organic beings via chemical reactions or another similar activity on a molecular scale, it stands to reason that Colossus can be poisoned.

ok then ultron, vision and nebula can be poisoned too.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

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Yes

will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Guess you just are misunderstanding waht everyone is saying ...

Colossus and UC are living beings, with blood. The game used an excuse that they have a steel body to give them bleed immunity. Due to being living creatures without resistance to poison, they can totally be poisoned (because again, a steel body won't do anything to protect them against poison).
Robots are not living beings. They don't have blood, and then they can't bleed. In addition, due to being robots, they are also immune to poison.

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Yes

will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Guess you just are misunderstanding waht everyone is saying ...

Colossus and UC are living beings, with blood. The game used an excuse that they have a steel body to give them bleed immunity. Due to being living creatures without resistance to poison, they can totally be poisoned (because again, a steel body won't do anything to protect them against poison).
Robots are not living beings. They don't have blood, and then they can't bleed. In addition, due to being robots, they are also immune to poison.

if they are living beings with blood then they must not be immune to bleed.

Riggs_97

No

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Riggs_97 said:

Colossus can turn his flesh and bone into organic steel via psionic interface with an alternate dimension that basically swaps his carbon based atoms with his body for osmium based ones, as described in detail above by @DNA3000. He remains an organic being, despite his amoured organic steel form. As poison can only affect organic beings via chemical reactions or another similar activity on a molecular scale, it stands to reason that Colossus can be poisoned.

ok then ultron, vision and nebula can be poisoned too.

No they cannot. They are not organic, but possess robotic parts. The difference between they and Colossus is that Colussus still possesses organic properties. There is nothing organic about Ultron, Vision or Nebula.

Riggs_97

No

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Guess you just are misunderstanding waht everyone is saying ...

Colossus and UC are living beings, with blood. The game used an excuse that they have a steel body to give them bleed immunity. Due to being living creatures without resistance to poison, they can totally be poisoned (because again, a steel body won't do anything to protect them against poison).
Robots are not living beings. They don't have blood, and then they can't bleed. In addition, due to being robots, they are also immune to poison.

if they are living beings with blood then they must not be immune to bleed.

They are protected from bleeding by the organic steel plating. However, as @will-o-wisp said, they do possess blood and therefore can be poisoned.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

No

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Guess you just are misunderstanding waht everyone is saying ...

Colossus and UC are living beings, with blood. The game used an excuse that they have a steel body to give them bleed immunity. Due to being living creatures without resistance to poison, they can totally be poisoned (because again, a steel body won't do anything to protect them against poison).
Robots are not living beings. They don't have blood, and then they can't bleed. In addition, due to being robots, they are also immune to poison.

if they are living beings with blood then they must not be immune to bleed.

Probably in the comics or movies or any other universe, but not in this game.
Again, like I explained before, the game created an excuse to make him bleed immune. It's not totally illogical, so it's acceptable

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Yes

Riggs_97 said:

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Riggs_97 said:

Colossus can turn his flesh and bone into organic steel via psionic interface with an alternate dimension that basically swaps his carbon based atoms with his body for osmium based ones, as described in detail above by @DNA3000. He remains an organic being, despite his amoured organic steel form. As poison can only affect organic beings via chemical reactions or another similar activity on a molecular scale, it stands to reason that Colossus can be poisoned.

ok then ultron, vision and nebula can be poisoned too.

No they cannot. They are not organic, but possess robotic parts. The difference between they and Colossus is that Colussus still possesses organic properties. There is nothing organic about Ultron, Vision or Nebula.

we are talking about poison and not neurotoxin. if a steel body can be poisoned then others steel bodies can be poisoned too robots also.

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

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will-o-wisp said:

They should not. And this post lacks info or reasons.

If you know why they are immune to bleed then there is no need to explain why they should be immune to poison.

They shouldn't, really. Blood is not "a must" thing to have for someone to be poisoned.
Besides, they have blood. They just have an armor on their body or so. Totally should still get poisoned

they are not immune to bleed due to armor, they are immune bcz their ability is to transform their body into organic steel fully lol I am not saying that hulkbuster, warmachine or iron-patriot should be immunr to poison bcz they have armors and their whole body is not metallic so armor is not the point here.

Still ... why should they be immune to poison?
You're saying they can't be poisoned just because they have an organic steel body? You can still totally poison them

lol then you can poison ultron vision and nebula too.

No ... they are robots. They are affected by a cybernetic virus, not poison.
Colossus is not a robot ...

you are changing your point of view every then and now, first you said they have armors now you are saying that a steel body that can't bleed can be poisoned lol but can't bleed lol

Guess you just are misunderstanding waht everyone is saying ...

Colossus and UC are living beings, with blood. The game used an excuse that they have a steel body to give them bleed immunity. Due to being living creatures without resistance to poison, they can totally be poisoned (because again, a steel body won't do anything to protect them against poison).
Robots are not living beings. They don't have blood, and then they can't bleed. In addition, due to being robots, they are also immune to poison.

if they are living beings with blood then they must not be immune to bleed.

Probably in the comics or movies or any other universe, but not in this game.
Again, like I explained before, the game created an excuse to make him bleed immune. It's not totally illogical, so it's acceptable

you can accept this you are too kabamed