Nova flames

Soulreaveras

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

NOOOOOOOOPEEEEE

Just don't activate Nova flames.

Lormif

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

RiderofHell

In reality super nova is considered the strongest element in space which can melt literally anything in its path

Sixshot1

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

I believe voids specials are energy attacks. I assume Iceman's are as well, but I don't know. Havok has some energy in his basic attacks, at least his first medium. Could be a frustrating defender.

FieryWater

Iceman specials are energy attacks, and so Iceman is a **** counter for Human Torch. You use your specials a couple of times and he will place a bunch of Nova Flame Passives on you and kill you.

Colonaut123

FieryWater said:

Iceman specials are energy attacks, and so Iceman is a **** counter for Human Torch. You use your specials a couple of times and he will place a bunch of Nova Flame Passives on you and kill you.

Human Torch is immune to coldsnap and frostbite so Iceman would be a very bad idea.

Colonaut123

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

Mephisto is not immune to nova flames.

Magrailothos

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

It is.

On the other hand, I can't see anything in Human Torch's description saying that he's immune to Nova flames either; so presumably Human Torch also takes damage from them...

Manup456

You guys try AA against HT? He melts him like butter

Clydania

FieryWater said:

Iceman specials are energy attacks, and so Iceman is a **** counter for Human Torch. You use your specials a couple of times and he will place a bunch of Nova Flame Passives on you and kill you.

Well it would be pretty bad if a guy made of ice was a good counter for a guy made of fire

GroundedWisdom

If all he had was regular Incinerate, that wouldn't be anything new, really. It would just be a Champ with the same Ability we've seen before.

Lormif

Colonaut123 said:

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

Mephisto is not immune to nova flames.

never said he was, I specifically stated he was not.

Sixshot1 said:

Lormif said:

Soulreaveras said:

Nova flames not being considered an incinerate so no one is immune is just straight BS and bad planning. I mean really guys.

Except you only get nova flames if you are using a mystic (class disadvantage) or champions with energy attacks. This means that pretty much the only incinerate immune champions affect is Mephisto, everyone else is fine unless I a missing their energy attacks.

I believe voids specials are energy attacks. I assume Iceman's are as well, but I don't know. Havok has some energy in his basic attacks, at least his first medium. Could be a frustrating defender.

true but they could be used as counters, you just dont use their specials unless he does not have incinerate up, meaning they are still a counter to incinerate, you just have to play well.

Strikerrx8

True

Strikerrx8

Nova very strong kills u in secounds

Rafikii

i know people are complaining but... ive fought HT a million times using void and NEVER took any incin damage.. what is there to complain about??? hes really not that hard to fight.

his sp1 is a bit tough to fully dodge, but sp2, dodge the first hit block the same dodge the last.
i havent had any difficulty fighting him except my first few times until i realised i needed to stop blocking the last hit of his specials.

Lormif

Belfigor said:

GroundedWisdom said:

If all he had was regular Incinerate, that wouldn't be anything new, really. It would just be a Champ with the same Ability we've seen before.

and that is what we need, nothing new, it creates imbalance
power creep is a real thing and kabam ignore it

It can create imbalance but it can also fix imbalance. never needing more than one champion to counter another ability almost makes the game stagnant.

ẞlооd

Manup456 said:

You guys try AA against HT? He melts him like butter

True, but not on the 3.1 HT. He gains temperature while he's bleeding and gains a shoulder every time a bleed expires. He rekt my AA in 3 seconds..

danielmath

Rulk is cool against him, you get to 10 charges super quick and game over. Ghost slaughters him obviously also

Soulreaveras

I have had the best results with bleed champs like AA and Blade. But they still tend to get hit or incinerates through blocking. Found out hard way not to use any mystic or energy champs. Ouch!!!
Tried using Hyperion, but for some reason it seems like his sp3 doesn’t do as much damage as it should, even with 4+ fury stacks.

BigPoppaCBONE

Havok works very well against him. His plasma charges build up crazy fast against HT, leading to multiple detonations and L3 fuel, especially if Havok gets a nova flame passive on him. Then it's a race to see who dies first, HT from rapid detonations and DOT or Havok from nova damage.

Colinwhitworth69

BigPoppaCBONE said:

Havok works very well against him. His plasma charges build up crazy fast against HT, leading to multiple detonations and L3 fuel, especially if Havok gets a nova flame passive on him. Then it's a race to see who dies first, HT from rapid detonations and DOT or Havok from nova damage.

Get some charges going and use heavies to rinse him with feedback damage.

Rap

Since we are on the subject of "unreasonable" My Blade threw a ninja star at Abomb from clear across the arena and was poisoned??? How can poison be triggered by a distance attack where he never touched him?