Is Carnage a "bad" champion?

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Lol almost as godly as luke cage and iron patriot

I let him hit me on purpose with his heavy on starks assignment master level, the bleed is so weak it makes me regenerate with willpower and recovery. That's not just bad, that's broken.

TheMageHunter

Carnage is God tier

Jokes aside he is barely playable with maxed deep wounds. If u ain't got that he is Carbage

FAL7EN

He's a beast when you play against 2* lol

A4_Awesome

why is this even a poll it is already established he is trash possibly worse than IP and LC and definetly worse than Netflix Daredevil

Grinder

Carnage is easily the worst champion in the game by a very long shot. And that's with a maxed out carnage with maxed out "potential". They did him wrong, this has been said countless times over and over on the forums. There's no need to make another thread, let's all just forget carnage exists in MCOC, it's for the best. If you get him as a champ just grit your teeth and move on. I wouldn't even use him for arena fodder because he takes 3x longer to kill something in the best situations compared to even the 2nd worst champ.

Cuteshelf

Grinder wrote: »

Carnage is easily the worst champion in the game by a very long shot. And that's with a maxed out carnage with maxed out "potential". They did him wrong, this has been said countless times over and over on the forums. There's no need to make another thread, let's all just forget carnage exists in MCOC, it's for the best. If you get him as a champ just grit your teeth and move on. I wouldn't even use him for arena fodder because he takes 3x longer to kill something in the best situations compared to even the 2nd worst champ.

I disagree.
Bring on the posts.

The last thing miiike said was that they know 'how we feel' but they 'can't drop their schedule' to fix him yet.

The more posts, the more they'll realize how bad he is and how much people are rooting for him to be fixed and usable.

If we just forget about it, it could be 6,12 even 18 months before they do anything about him.

At the very least, all of the constant posts might make them realise their mistakes and the inevitable community backlash from releasing such undertested champs and put in the proper time and effort into creating new champs.

Tmasters1984

Him and vulture make for easy bosses.

Easy bosses=good.

Crusher

.. He has really good potential... Some people complaints for no reason..
4* rank 5 carnage is really good to complete act 3 and catalyst quests without any revives..
And he is really useful for those who wants to try LOL ... Just use him against any higher champs and it will takes more then 100 hits ..... And his BP is **** so u have to intercept... So that will really help u to learn intercepting and building combos..
Last and not the least... He is great arena champ against 3* champs .... Carnage is god..
#VVIP#

neb

When does he come back around as a featured 5 star again? Maybe he'll be usable by then. $$$

WreakingHavoc

Not the worst, but not good, I can tell you that. I'd rather have him than my Luke Cage or Spidergwen, but Ant-Man is probably better when duped.

LocoMotives

He has potential in that a couple small tweaks to his package could make him a solid champ.

Spartacus29

I would much rather use IP, SG or LC than Carnage. He has prestige and that is it.

Make bleeds last 3 seconds BEFORE deep wounds and make every attack a bleed chance ala BP and I think he'd be fine. At least then he would have some use.

His buff conversion is beyond useless as is. No one is going to use him in a fight that'll last past 1 or two specials tops so the permanent buff up to 5 is a complete waste. The fact you have to wait 10 seconds also means you rarely if ever get the buff you'd want anyway. Imagine if you had to wait 10 seconds after Voodoo specials and then it depended on what your combo was at that point whether you got one or the other effect. Now make it 5 possibilities. Just....plain....stupid....design.

Rafitas

I think Carnage will beat an record on 5* Feature Crystal.
0 Purchases.
Maybe after that, Kabam should do something.

neb

After that they'll have no reason 2

Grinder

Cuteshelf wrote: »

Grinder wrote: »

Carnage is easily the worst champion in the game by a very long shot. And that's with a maxed out carnage with maxed out "potential". They did him wrong, this has been said countless times over and over on the forums. There's no need to make another thread, let's all just forget carnage exists in MCOC, it's for the best. If you get him as a champ just grit your teeth and move on. I wouldn't even use him for arena fodder because he takes 3x longer to kill something in the best situations compared to even the 2nd worst champ.

I disagree.
Bring on the posts.

The last thing miiike said was that they know 'how we feel' but they 'can't drop their schedule' to fix him yet.

The more posts, the more they'll realize how bad he is and how much people are rooting for him to be fixed and usable.

If we just forget about it, it could be 6,12 even 18 months before they do anything about him.

At the very least, all of the constant posts might make them realise their mistakes and the inevitable community backlash from releasing such undertested champs and put in the proper time and effort into creating new champs.

Half of the champs that have been around for years aren't even working right or fixed. If you honestly think it'll be anywhere even in the distant future that he gets changed you're sadly mistaken. If you're new, I understand why you may be hopeful but if you've been around for a while you're just being oblivious to reality when it comes to kabam.

neb

Carnages best chance of not being worthless is in a few years when he gets a reskin release

Awesomeness44

Carnage is the worst release of 2017 for sure, but maybe if he was given an open wound like punisher he could be better

Cuteshelf

Grinder wrote: »

Cuteshelf wrote: »

Grinder wrote: »

Carnage is easily the worst champion in the game by a very long shot. And that's with a maxed out carnage with maxed out "potential". They did him wrong, this has been said countless times over and over on the forums. There's no need to make another thread, let's all just forget carnage exists in MCOC, it's for the best. If you get him as a champ just grit your teeth and move on. I wouldn't even use him for arena fodder because he takes 3x longer to kill something in the best situations compared to even the 2nd worst champ.

I disagree.
Bring on the posts.

The last thing miiike said was that they know 'how we feel' but they 'can't drop their schedule' to fix him yet.

The more posts, the more they'll realize how bad he is and how much people are rooting for him to be fixed and usable.

If we just forget about it, it could be 6,12 even 18 months before they do anything about him.

At the very least, all of the constant posts might make them realise their mistakes and the inevitable community backlash from releasing such undertested champs and put in the proper time and effort into creating new champs.

Half of the champs that have been around for years aren't even working right or fixed. If you honestly think it'll be anywhere even in the distant future that he gets changed you're sadly mistaken. If you're new, I understand why you may be hopeful but if you've been around for a while you're just being oblivious to reality when it comes to kabam.

You Might be right, but no other champ was released this bad before, and no other champ has had this response from the community.

If kabam is struggling so hard releasing decent champs, perhaps they need another team to look at 'balancing' which focuses on updating older/underpowered champs.

DocMcShottie

I'll admit that he is not the best champ. But in the right hands he can do some very good damage. I use him (5/50 sig 39) as an alternate when my top champs are all in AW and AQ, and I have no issues clearing the harder content with him. I'll say it like I have many times in the past, there are no bad champs only players that don't know how to properly use them. Yes, this included LC and Spider-gwen.

neb

It kinda reminds me of league of legends, they are always doing full reworks of outdated champs so the characters don't become too stale

LegoCrafter517

The way I feel about carnage is just disappointment. He was one of the most anticipated champions but came out completely garbage. But I'm pretty sure he'll get a major boost in the future. All he really needs is a bleed boost and to be able to bleed on regular hits like venom. Even tho he's not a great champion, he is still a pretty cool grab. His animations are great and his model is amazing, and with (I hope) some added bleed buffs, he'll be really good.

LegoCrafter517

DocMcShottie wrote: »

I'll admit that he is not the best champ. But in the right hands he can do some very good damage. I use him (5/50 sig 39) as an alternate when my top champs are all in AW and AQ, and I have no issues clearing the harder content with him. I'll say it like I have many times in the past, there are no bad champs only players that don't know how to properly use them. Yes, this included LC and Spider-gwen.

Dude! Finally! someone like me! I hate it when players bash champs like iron patriot or spider gwen.

RichiesDad79

Dude! Finally! someone like me! I hate it when players bash champs like iron patriot or spider gwen. [/quote]

Spider Gwen is totally awesome. I can't see why all the hate for her. not very many people must know how to use her properly.

Grinder

DocMcShottie wrote: »

I'll admit that he is not the best champ. But in the right hands he can do some very good damage. I use him (5/50 sig 39) as an alternate when my top champs are all in AW and AQ, and I have no issues clearing the harder content with him. I'll say it like I have many times in the past, there are no bad champs only players that don't know how to properly use them. Yes, this included LC and Spider-gwen.

The one and only reason you may use him is because you rushed to get him then r5'd thinking he'd be great, now you're stuck with a r5 champ that does less damage in his best moments as 90% of r4's do at their worst.... You're trying to find gold in a dumpster of dead fish. I don't hate on champs in general, in fact you can probably search through some of my past posts and find that I heavily defend champs like iron patriot because I don't think they're bad in any way just inferior to their counterparts. But when a r5 carnage averages below 500 damage per hit in a typical fight and only a few K at his prime damage, and the champ has zero utility or defense you are looking at, by far, the worst champ in the game on every single level. He's strictly a prestige champ.

Kronos987654321

I would take carnage over:
Hulkbuster
Luke cage
Ant man
Colossus
She Hulk.

Yeah.

DeathBringer77

Carnage is one of my biggest disappointments in this game and I've had major disappointments with this game. There is many of us that feel this way and we need to continue to put pressure on in order to get change. Honestly, if they just raised his health and attack to normal level, he would be better. But again we are talking carnage and he should have the bleed of gwenpool, regen as a buff and way shorter timer. I can keep going but I'll stop there.

Miike and the team know he is garbage and hopefully they will fit him into their schedule.

neb

Some people clearly haven't tested or used Carnage enough yet. It isn't till after 4 special attacks that his damage passes shehulk. Or you can go the defensive route. Now it isn't till after 4 specials will he pass Luke cage. In both cases this is leaving either his offense or his defense at lower then a r3 4 stars average amount. If you build balanced and go 1 of each buff then after 5 special attacks you'll still be weaker then all other characters in the game with zero utility to make up for it.

Somethingsome

Don't worry, they're comiing out with multiple new champs every month now...it's a race to the bottom in terms of utility. I can guarantee you they'll find a way to release an even more unappealing champ, then we'll stop **** about carnage and **** about the new guy instead, problem solved!

Kabam Miike

Hey All,

There are already multiple threads on this subject, and as we have said, we will look into this situation when we have the chance. There is no more to add at this time, but as soon as there is, we will let you know.

Closing this thread down now.