Science Adaptoid Variant

Jac094

Why they write 28% evade chance when he basically evades 4 hits per combo?

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Panchulon21

Lol he’s more like 60%. Very much a pain. Took me a 20% revive.

DNA3000

Why they write 28% evade chance when he basically evades 4 hits per combo?

The evade mechanic in MCOC is a little complicated and unusual. When a champion triggers an evade, they are actually triggering a status effect that causes them to evade attacks. However, this effect has a duration, it doesn't simply cause one attack to be evaded and then disappear. As a result, the act of triggering an evade can cause a champion to evade multiple attacks in a row if they happen fast enough. This all counts as "one evade" in game mechanical terms because "evade" is a status, not the individual dodging of an attack.

This has been true since basically forever, and it is one of those game complexities that is not well explained, or understood. And it is part of the reason (but not the sole reason) behind players thinking evade chances are much higher than stated in the game.

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Pizzabeat

Eww hes stun immune in 2.1 too venom wouldnt kill that would he?

Came here to ask the same thing 😂

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Qwerty

Why they write 28% evade chance when he basically evades 4 hits per combo?
The evade mechanic in MCOC is a little complicated and unusual. When a champion triggers an evade, they are actually triggering a status effect that causes them to evade attacks. However, this effect has a duration, it doesn't simply cause one attack to be evaded and then disappear. As a result, the act of triggering an evade can cause a champion to evade multiple attacks in a row if they happen fast enough. This all counts as "one evade" in game mechanical terms because "evade" is a status, not the individual dodging of an attack.

This has been true since basically forever, and it is one of those game complexities that is not well explained, or understood. And it is part of the reason (but not the sole reason) behind players thinking evade chances are much higher than stated in the game.

Unfortunately this is not the case for this fight unless that window you speak of is extraordinarily wide. I always back away after I'm evaded and go back for an intercept after the ai calms down. The evasion rate on my intercepts alone is definitely not 25%.

Pizzabeat

Eww hes stun immune in 2.1 too venom wouldnt kill that would he?
Came here to ask the same thing 😂
Confirmed venom doesnt negate the evade I tried no real effect

Thanks for the heads up, ended up getting it done with Cap IW and a little heavy/heavy countering. Worked like a charm 😄

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Kobster84

@Drooped2 can you show how your heavy countering with domino I’m trying but can’t here and if I miss one he kills me

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RiderofHell

Why no one mentioned She hulk lol

Mbizz

Heavy/Heavy counter with AA until neuros kick in, easy fight.

jdyke23

how would she hulk work ?

Gamer

how would she hulk work ?

She hevry counter evade and unsbolppe

Gamer

But I’m think the node is debuff imuns not sure

jdyke23

yeah just tested her and she’s only a L champ so all you can do is heavy atta k or intercept one hit and back off

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jdyke23

you sure ? be taking mega block damage from him though

Frosty

She Hulk works best here, heavy till u reach SP3 and then during the long stun you can keep using heavy

Stun immune though

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Mirage_Turtle

She Hulk works best here, heavy till u reach SP3 and then during the long stun you can keep using heavy
@mike867 Stun immune bro
Bait Heavy and dash back. DONT DEX out of it. Dash back before DEX appears, that way you will have enough distance to connect your heavy. Then play normal

No one denies that you can land a heavy on this guy. They're just pointing out that your strategy of repeatedly using heavy attacks "during the long stun" is not possible due to the stun immunity node.

jdyke23

i personally think he’s a joke

Kerneas

Also it's funny how often do evade champs evadeedium attacks

ManChild

Quake worked well. AA could of worked with heavy bait.

jdyke23

i’m not quite good enough with quake working the dex and triggering the heavy it’s like when i evade with the heavy then dex then go to charge the heavy she doesn’t want to charge it and jist stands like an idiot. i’m i supposed to swipe back twice after her auto evade then do my heavy ?

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belli300

Kinda perplexes me that venom doesn’t work when the signature ability is literally spider sense