Last Stand: Why Oppression Degeneration is not disabled with Ghost?

I have a 5 star, rank 4 awakened Ghost who starts phasing from the beginning of the fight. On her abilities, it says "While Phasing, incoming attacks have a 100% chance to Miss and each Damage Over Time Debuff on Ghost converts to a Fury Passive"

The Oppression node debuff says "Attacking champions who are not under the effects of an Infinity Stone have their Attack reduced by 80% and Degenerate 100% of their health over 35 seconds"

Now, since Degeneration is a damage over time debuff, shouldn't it be disabled? That'd leave Ghost with 80% reduced attack but no degen. She can convert other node debuffs such as bleed an poison on AQ to fury. Why this degen is not converted?

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  • EgeCEgeC Posts: 111
    edited May 16

    Is not a debuff. Is a passive degeneration

    By that logic, the bleed/poison on AQ should be passive as well but they're not. She can convert those into furies no problem. And it's the same description.

  • will-o-wispwill-o-wisp Posts: 6,323
    No ... the bleed and poison from those nodes are debuffs. The only type of passive bleeds you will find in the game are NC bleed's and the goldpool synergy. Passive poisons are yet to exist in the game.
    The degenration from that node is not a debuff
  • EgeCEgeC Posts: 111

    No ... the bleed and poison from those nodes are debuffs. The only type of passive bleeds you will find in the game are NC bleed's and the goldpool synergy. Passive poisons are yet to exist in the game.
    The degenration from that node is not a debuff

    It might be passive or not. How do you know it is passive without depending on the fact that Ghost degens? Is it written or stated somewhere?
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 806
    EgeC said:

    Is not a debuff. Is a passive degeneration

    By that logic, the bleed/poison on AQ should be passive as well but they're not. She can convert those into furies no problem. And it's the same description.

    By what logic...? There are active effects (buffs/debuffs), identifiable by the white border around their effect symbol, and passive effects, identifiable by their lack of a white border.

    The only common ground between the degen you're referring to and the bleed/poison from those nodes is all of them dealing dot.
  • will-o-wispwill-o-wisp Posts: 6,323
    EgeC said:

    No ... the bleed and poison from those nodes are debuffs. The only type of passive bleeds you will find in the game are NC bleed's and the goldpool synergy. Passive poisons are yet to exist in the game.
    The degenration from that node is not a debuff

    It might be passive or not. How do you know it is passive without depending on the fact that Ghost degens? Is it written or stated somewhere?
    Not just ghost. Test with any champion that can shrugg off or remove debuffs, and it won't work against that. Simple, is not a debuff, there is no reason to work.
    Check the icon. Pause the screen if you want to. It doesnt say it is a debuff.
  • Austin555555Austin555555 Posts: 1,580
    The last stand degen is immune to the ones who hold the stone. Only the avengers who have an infinity stone can not be effected by the degen. It says in the description
  • Hey there, as some have already mentioned, Ghost can only convert Damage Over Time Debuffs, but not Passive Effects, which Degeneration typically is. Debuffs can be distinguished by the light ring around the border of their icon which Passive Effects don't have. Hope that helps clear things up!
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