Simple question - Why are you so addicted to this game???

It’s pretty hilarious seeing ppl who literally spend hours a day on the forums (not even counting the amount of time they actually play the game) saying they aren’t addicted. We knew self awareness are not these people’s strengths, but this Is a new level of ignorance😂

It’s pretty hilarious seeing ppl who literally spend hours a day on the forums (not even counting the amount of time they actually play the game) saying they aren’t addicted. We knew self awareness are not these people’s strengths, but this Is a new level of ignorance😂

The amount of time you spend on something doesn't define if you're addicted or not. Whether you're compelled beyond self-benefit to do something or not is the usual definition of addiction. I spend a fair amount of time on the forums, but I'd continue playing the game if the forums didn't exist anymore. And since I take regular breaks from the forums, sometimes for extended periods of time, I'm not really addicted to the forums either.

Prathap

Because it is super addictive

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It’s pretty hilarious seeing ppl who literally spend hours a day on the forums (not even counting the amount of time they actually play the game) saying they aren’t addicted. We knew self awareness are not these people’s strengths, but this Is a new level of ignorance😂

First of all...
r/ whoosh goes the joke.

Secondly, some aren't addicted at all. They just invest their time into one hobby primarily, and can afford more time to spend on it.
Especially when they realize there's a very real chance the game could cease to be one day, and they're aware of that fact. That's not really addiction. People who are addicted can't stop. Literally. Some just choose to spend their time on it while they have it.

Tony886

Bugs 💗💗💗

It’s pretty hilarious seeing ppl who literally spend hours a day on the forums (not even counting the amount of time they actually play the game) saying they aren’t addicted. We knew self awareness are not these people’s strengths, but this Is a new level of ignorance😂
First of all...
r/ whoosh goes the joke.

Secondly, some aren't addicted at all. They just invest their time into one hobby primarily, and can afford more time to spend on it.
Especially when they realize there's a very real chance the game could cease to be one day, and they're aware of that fact. That's not really addiction. People who are addicted can't stop. Literally. Some just choose to spend their time on it while they have it.

*Footnote. That's not an indication the game is ending. Just making a point that the real test of Addiction is not how much you do it, it's how you do without it.

Because it is super addictive

This is the only right answer. Every single aspect of this game is designed to be addictive in every possible way. The definition of “behavioral addiction” applies to this more than “addiction.”

To pretend you aren’t to any degree addicted to this game is just outright naive.

I don't think you understand much about Addiction. It's not something that can be implanted by a game.

Further to that, the game is not a diabolical construct that is designed to feed Addictions. That view is about as jaded as it gets.

It’s documented. A quick google search has reputable companies reporting such.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-video-game-companies-are-using-gambling-tactics-to-make-customers-addicted-2017-9

They even name drop Kabam. I’d rather be jaded than naive. You think a billion dollar industry isn’t trying to get you addicted? Just because you don’t get fired from your job or your significant other doesn’t leave you doesn’t mean you aren’t addicted to some degree. I don’t expect to change your mind because your lack of self-awareness prevents you from allowing yourself to be wrong. But I wouldn’t call what this article is reporting as jaded.

A 2 year-old article from Tech Insider Australia is reputable proof that the game is trying to get you addicted? Please.
My "lack of self-awareness". Let's talk about that. I was in Active Addiction for 20 years of my life and am over 8 and a half years clean. The first few years of my Recovery were spent with a team of Medical Professionals and people with decades invested into the disease, along with people in various other programs that specialize in Addiction. It is a disease. Recognized as such under the Health Act, as well as various other publications. It is a disorder that occurs between the Frontal Lobe and Midbrain Cortex that affects the center responsible for making choices. The effect is the release of Dopamine is sometimes hundreds of times larger than normal needs, and as such, the object replaces importance in the brain for things like food and love.
The three characteristics of the disease are:
- increased tolerance
- presence of cravings
- inability to stop regardless of consequences

Those 3 characteristics TOGETHER signify Addiction. You cannot acquire it from a Video Game.

Let's talk about that. Video Games are habit-forming. We are creatures of habit. All Humans are. We also live in an Instant Gratification Society, and are always focused on the next best thing. Bigger, better, faster. With that you have the Digital Age. People are attached to their devices and grow bored easily. Things not uncommon to Gamers in general.
People play Video Games out of habit. That does not make it an Addiction. Someone who is an Addict adheres to all 3 criteria I listed. Healthy people overdo it. They have the ability to stop with consequences. Sometimes greater consequences, nonetheless. Someone in Active Addiction has no choice. They can't stop because the part of the brain responsible for that is in dis-order.
Many people play the game a lot. Many continue. It's habitual. It's also a long-term game. While in Recovery we don't judge consequences of people trying to get help, someone who is addicted would look more like someone in thousands of dollars worth of debt, lost their family because they couldn't stop, can't keep a job because they can't stop playing, literally can't stop. Not just someone who plays habitually. The vast majority would put the game down by that point.
Your article doesn't have half the knowledge I do on the subject. I've lived through it, and I spend my time helping people save their own lives with the issue. I'm quite aware. If I had to stop playing, I would be disheartened because I love the game and I've made friends. I would certainly be fine.

winterthur

There is a 5-Star awakening gem coming up in a couple of days.

Raiser

Because aegon, cap marvel movie, OR, domino, and the others god tier champ still not in my roster !!!!

Because aegon, cap marvel movie, OR, domino, and the others god tier champ still not in my roster !!!!

Actually, that's a good point. Collecting keeps me going too.

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I play due to my love of marvel

Djkrdjj

It fills my addiction to collecting things so I don’t have to in real life.

Doonx

Love every crystal opening 😂

The_One

It's cheaper than crack cocai...
No wait, that's not right

Hendross

I think for a lot of people it’s simply because if you stop now that’s so much time just wasted lol

Sunk cost fallacy. While intellectually aware of this, I continue to disappointment myself.

It’s documented. A quick google search has reputable companies reporting such.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-video-game-companies-are-using-gambling-tactics-to-make-customers-addicted-2017-9

They even name drop Kabam. I’d rather be jaded than naive. You think a billion dollar industry isn’t trying to get you addicted? Just because you don’t get fired from your job or your significant other doesn’t leave you doesn’t mean you aren’t addicted to some degree. I don’t expect to change your mind because your lack of self-awareness prevents you from allowing yourself to be wrong. But I wouldn’t call what this article is reporting as jaded.

I would call it wildly misleading. Did you actually read the article and its references? I did, when it first came out. I find it to be sketchy, click-baity, and not well supported.

Here's a quote from the article, which I'm sure you did read:

The goal of an FTP game is to get as many players as possible addicted, so that they keep buying in-game content.

That sentence actually links to a study, implying that this statement is backed up by academic research. The problem is that the study they link to, which is here http://jultika.oulu.fi/files/nbnfioulu-201602271254.pdf, nowhere supports that statement. Not only does that study not mention "addiction" anywhere, the study doesn't even examine the motivations of game companies at all. The study is actually a study of game players and their motivations for spending on games, and an analysis of the kinds of games offering different avenues for players to spend.

This is how the study describes the free to play business model:

The main business goal for the F2P games is to attract a great number players and then offer them incentives to purchase the in-game items. Further help is provided by the fact that getting in the game requires no investment other than to reserve the users internet
bandwidth so that they can download and play the game. This is very helpful in attracting new prospective customers for the game as getting in the game is very easy and does not require any monetary investment.

And the specific advantage of the free to play model is stated to be that because it is free, it has a greater ability to attract new players, and thus keep the playerbase growing and healthy:

A subscription based game that does not attract enough players is unlikely to do so in the future where as a F2P game is more likely to gather more players. Eventually, if they are properly immersed by the gameplay they are also more likely to pay for the game (Nojima, 2007).

The issue is not that the study is necessarily correct, and it is also dated. The issue is the article was willing to quote a study that very obviously does not support its thesis just to look more solid, presuming that most people don't read references anyway. But this is a fundamental, and not the only fundamental, flaw with the article.

X_Scott

I'm in it for all the chicks, man. Every girl loves a guy with a strong roster.

I'm in it for all the chicks, man. Every girl loves a guy with a strong roster.

Let me guess, Global? XD

cx23433

I'm not

Prathap

I'm not

You wouldn't be here in the forum if not....:)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContestOfChampions/comments/chg8bo/lets_go_whaling_tricks_for_monetising_mobile_game/

Key words “trick” “hook” “habit”

Come to your own conclusions. I get that this isn’t like a hardcore drug addiction, I’ve made that clear in my prior posts. I’m just saying on a scale of 0-100 (0 being not addicted and 100 being life ruining addiction) of behavioral addiction (not clinical, they are different terms) anyone playing this game daily and collecting all the login rewards are above 1 on this scale.

I see people twisting words and terms and trying to make this a binary “not addicted” vs “heroine addiction” and that’s not the way the mind or life works.

Not once did I mention heroin. I described the characteristics of Addiction, and the extremities that follow from being addicted to Video Games. The disease manifests itself in unmanageability. The degree of unmanageability varies, but through all that, there is an inability to stop despite consequences. Addiction isn't just people who blew too much money on Crystals, or complained about issues but never put the game down. There's much, much more to it than that.
Playing the game daily is not automatically Addiction. Not being able to stop despite consequences is a good earmark.

I’m just saying on a scale of 0-100 (0 being not addicted and 100 being life ruining addiction) of behavioral addiction (not clinical, they are different terms) anyone playing this game daily and collecting all the login rewards are above 1 on this scale.

On that massively expansive scale, I'm above a 1 for sunsets, dogs, and french fries.

I've seen Video Game Addiction. It's not pretty. I have a friend who suffers from it. He had to get rid of any and every console and device he could play on. He would spend days and days, isolated in his apartment. Skipped appointments and meetings, got angry, secretive, and defensive when you called him on it. He would sell his TV, console, computer, try to quit. Then would go back and buy new ones. Finally, he had to get help. He's doing well now.
Is the game designed to be fun and enticing? Sure. Any product you sell is. Do they want long-term customers? Most businesses do. The game is centered around progress over time. That means coming back to it. However, that's a huge step from being designed to encourage Addiction. If anything, they encourage safe and responsible game play and want people to seek help if they need it. That much is up to the User. The game is not responsible for any personal issues people are bringing with them.