All or Nothing... Or spamming L1

Diabolixide

What's up with The Thing spamming L1 on the All or Nothing node in AW?
Not cool, cost me my Vision.

Lormif

Diabolixide said:

What's up with The Thing spamming L1 on the All or Nothing node in AW?
Not cool, cost me my Vision.

All or nothing nodes with vision has a trick. If you power drain the target when he reaches sp3 then he starts firing off sp1, how it always has been.

Diabolixide

I hit him with power drain when he reached L1? So I'm not understanding... And where is that listed about the All or Nothing node?

Diabolixide

*power burn, rather. In fact, I didn't even build the L1 until he had already used his L1.

Lormif

It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.

Diabolixide

@Kabam Miike or other mods, can you provide some clarity here? Maybe some transparency about underlying node relationships?

*Disregard, mods.

Diabolixide

@Lormif.... That's dirty, lmao. Thanks for clearing that up man.

Lvernon15

Lormif said:

It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.

He said thing used his s1 before vision used any special so it must be a bug

Eb0ny-O-M4w

I noticed the same happening once with me. I assume some champions are coded to have higher chance to throw a special attack under a certain criteria. That additional chance to throw a special attack would be kinda like a Taunt mechanic, which then would make it possible for those champions to release a special attack when placed on a All or Nothing node.

Same thing happens with Thor Ragnarok, when he gets his power gain. I assume Thing was at 15 rock stacks or so when he threw his special attack

Lormif

Lvernon15 said:

Lormif said:

It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.

He said thing used his s1 before vision used any special so it must be a bug

he did not, he said he used it when he hit his sp1

Ordalca

I've heard in chats that Thing and Thor Rag have a hidden increased chance to throw specials outside the normal amount: Thing based on his rock stacks, but I don't recall what Thor Rag's was based on.