How do you feel about the “changes” to Sym Supreme announced?

Like kabam saw an opportunity to nerf him

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There aren't any changes, really. If you'll read what was said, that's the intended outcome they had, and it's just not being changed.

Worknprogress

Pretty indifferent personally. Only reason I took my sym to R2 was bc of that ridiculous champion fight. I find him excruciating to use personally unless you have at least 3 pts in MD and the opponent is very buff heavy. They keep beating the mystic class down more and more. I have 14 R5 and 4 R2 champs and only 1 ranked mystic. If they're gonna do shady stuff might as well keep doing it to mystics

Rulllor

Whew, dodged a major bullet for me but sucks for everyone who love supreme .

But in the end, we are just players playing kabam game. Kabam is king of world and can do whatever they want. We just use their software for free so we should not complain

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Rulllor

There aren't any changes, really. If you'll read what was said, that's the intended outcome they had, and it's just not being changed.

I agree with this kabam guy, kabam can change anytime whatevr whenever they want

I can understand that, but nothing is being changed. They explained that the Description was wrong, and after debating it, they came to the conclusion that changing him would make him more powerful. Techically, nothing is changing except the Description. 50% was the intended goal.

Zuro

Although this does suck they aren't changing anything about him just his description

He’s not that powerful to begin with, only place he shines is against champs or nodes with recurring buffs and there’s not a lot of that in the game. So the argument that he’d be too powerful with a 100% chance to apply stagger on well timed blocks while 1 out of 3 of his genetic blessing is active doesn’t make any sense.

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...

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For people saying it’s not a nerf it’s pretty much kabam just saying they don’t have to fix bugs with champs
If kabam wants to call it a nerf fine I don’t mind he’s still the same he’s been the past while but to say it was intended is bs

Justin2524

Indifferent.

Justin2524

Probably leaning happy personally.. I can now use the 3-4 Mystic gem on Magic when I get her. Was undecided before.

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...

Yeah um considering you still haven’t finished act 5 name a few places where you must have sym supreme to consistently nullify recurring buffs and get through the fight besides the champion boss in 6.2.

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...
Yeah um considering you still haven’t finished act 5 name a few places where you must have sym supreme to consistently nullify recurring buffs and get through the fight besides the champion boss in 6.2.

Your statement was that there aren't a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs. Nothing about Act 6. Unless you think where you're at is all there is to the game, that's not correct.

Rasilover

Its a very minor "nerf"

Its a very minor "nerf"

Well not really the difference between a guaranteed stagger and 50% chance is massive

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...
Yeah um considering you still haven’t finished act 5 name a few places where you must have sym supreme to consistently nullify recurring buffs and get through the fight besides the champion boss in 6.2.
Your statement was that there aren't a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs. Nothing about Act 6. Unless you think where you're at is all there is to the game, that's not correct.

What I meant was there’s not a lot of fights in the game that require a hard counter for recurring buffs. He’s great for aw medusa or champion boss fights, a few mystic gates in 6.2 and the final boss fight in 6.2.6. The people that are upset with this are mostly the ones that already have him at r5. I just don’t understand how 100% chance to apply stagger on well timed blocks would make him too “powerful” when the ability only really counters recurring buffs.

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Rasilover

Its a very minor "nerf"
Well not really the difference between a guaranteed stagger and 50% chance is massive

He's never been able to apply a stagger with a 100% chance

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Its a very minor "nerf"
Well not really the difference between a guaranteed stagger and 50% chance is massive
He's never been able to apply a stagger with a 100% chance

Ye but he was meant to kabam decided to not fix the bug which is kinda scummy in my opinion

Worknprogress

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...
Yeah um considering you still haven’t finished act 5 name a few places where you must have sym supreme to consistently nullify recurring buffs and get through the fight besides the champion boss in 6.2.
Your statement was that there aren't a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs. Nothing about Act 6. Unless you think where you're at is all there is to the game, that's not correct.
What I meant was there’s not a lot of fights in the game that require a hard counter for recurring buffs. He’s great for aw medusa or champion boss fights, a few mystic gates in 6.2 and the final boss fight in 6.2.6. The people that are upset with this are mostly the ones that already have him at r5. I just don’t understand how 100% chance to apply stagger on well timed blocks would make him too “powerful” when the ability only really counters recurring buffs.

It wouldn't at all. It's an absolutely ridiculous statement at that. Only thing I can think of is they found some other interaction that happened when it was 100% that isn't directly related to just getting another stagger placed

@Msyounus1288 stop it. Symbiote Supreme is still very useful. Many champs in the game have tons of buffs that can be nullified. You just keep hating on him for no reason. I personally used him tons in act 6 and 5 and he’s very useful in both.

Lol read what I wrote again

There's not a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs? Um...
Yeah um considering you still haven’t finished act 5 name a few places where you must have sym supreme to consistently nullify recurring buffs and get through the fight besides the champion boss in 6.2.
Your statement was that there aren't a lot of Champs with recurring Buffs. Nothing about Act 6. Unless you think where you're at is all there is to the game, that's not correct.
What I meant was there’s not a lot of fights in the game that require a hard counter for recurring buffs. He’s great for aw medusa or champion boss fights, a few mystic gates in 6.2 and the final boss fight in 6.2.6. The people that are upset with this are mostly the ones that already have him at r5. I just don’t understand how 100% chance to apply stagger on well timed blocks would make him too “powerful” when the ability only really counters recurring buffs.
It wouldn't at all. It's an absolutely ridiculous statement at that. Only thing I can think of is they found some other interaction that happened when it was 100% that isn't directly related to just getting another stagger placed

Guessing it was the synergy with diablo where he gains 1% attack for each stagger placed on the opponent.