**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Upcoming Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw Balance Changes
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Do deep, extensive tests so your final product does not need to be ammended after release. This way you can gradually regain the trust of your player base.
It reduces the incentive to get them. It s probably best to wait 3 months before deciding on rank up a new champ.
Better don’t spend until you know what you are getting. This probably the best advice for every player.
The kinds of things they adjusted were things much more level headed players were talking about, like Parry stacking or CR overlap, or things like the block proficiency of intrinsically high block champions like Captain America. Dr. Strange, for example, had his heal increased in 12.0.1 but only because it was cut far too deep. It wasn't returned to its original value or even remotely close. It was, in fact, increased to almost exactly the value I calculated the absolute minimum floor the heal should be to not be considered broken in the Dr. Strange thread.
This doesn't even include all the things the rabid complainers calling 12.0 the death of the game were demanding that were straight up impossible to address. For example, they were complaining that challenge rating decreased parry effectiveness and demanded that behavior should be removed even though that wasn't happening at all.
This isn't stuff I'm just remembering now. This is stuff I pointed out at the time, after 12.0.1 came out, after 12.1 came out, when 14.0 released and people were comparing the AW changes to 12.0, and every so often up to now. The people who were there at the time and actively involved knows there was no unity among the players: there were at least three separate "groups" of "boycotters" (the top alliiance group, the Reddit splinter group(s), and the more amorphous mob in general) all with different demands. And there were lots of fringe complainers with varying degrees of fringiness. The "death of the game" people were one specific fringe group, and many were chanting that mantra even after compensation was released.
In fact, there were fringy people complaining that *the compensation itself* would be the death of the game, because of its structure. Apparently a lot of people have forgotten how the compensation package worked, and how many people flipped out over how it worked.
Let them re-work (what I really mean is nerf) a champion that is actually top 10 or people use regularly like Namor and see how its goes. This change with Cull will definitely hit their pockets so it doesn't matter how much I complain or you re butte the argument. You cannot continue to change champions by making them weaker specifically and expect people to buy crystals and spend at the same rate after working so hard to get them. That's just the facts, I'll be here in 3 months to watch it play out and Kabam go back on their words. In fact, I would say they would be much better off leaving the champions that are terrible the same and occasionally just re-working 2016 and past champions.
There's a thread on She-Hulk asking who else didn't rank her down, and so far, the general consensus is (at least pertaining to those that answered) she's still useful and they didn't rank her down. I'm not saying don't ask for the gem back. Do try it, especially considering the timing. Then perhaps once the changes are live you can make a more informed decision as to whether you want to use it again. Provided they undo this. Best of luck.
12.0 to 12.1 was drastically different. I remember when 12.0 hit you would lose a significant amount of damage just by parrying. Reasonable people knew that those minor details here and there that had to be updated made all the difference. If 12.0 stayed as presently constructed I would not be playing and that for sure whether you try to minimize it or not.
Also, what you don't understand is that this argument has nothing to do with Cull Obsidian it is about precedence moving forward. This is nothing from the community but a warning. Touch Namor or a champion that's actually relevant or top 10 and watch what happens. We have whales on record already saying they're going to scale back on spending. I would advise to Kabam to test more and leave current champs as is.
Make the champ put it in the game if u don’t like how good you have made the champ
Make a counter, every enemy has a foe and every champ has an enemy
Downgrading champs after people invest is false advertising surprised people don’t take kabam to court. Upgrading cool downgrading false advertising because people spend money to get what you made . Downgrades is not what the person is paying for .
A lot of people I know are quitting the game because of this .
Simply not a good business move on your end , not a good one at all
Get it togather
Yes, 12.1 was different than 12.0. That's true. But I'm not saying it wasn't different. I'm saying 12.1 didn't "fix" the things that the "death of the game" people were complaining about. That makes them wrong, either because they were incorrect the changes would kill the game, or they were wrong about which things were important to complain about in the first place.
When you say I don't understand "this argument" there's no argument I'm replying to here. I'm replying to an assertion: that someone thinks nerfs are bad for business and thinks anecdotes about spending reductions are significant. But these things happen every day, and have happened after every major change to the game. After 12.0, it became fashionable for players to exclaim, whenever a change happened they didn't like, that we should "start a boycott." I kept saying then that this was a mistake: calling for a boycott every time a change took place wasn't just worthless, it was less than worthless because it quickly became an empty threat. Eventually it wasn't just me pointing that out: try calling for a "boycott" on the forums now: you'll get a lot of people sighing.
The same thing is true about people claiming to know what changes will cost Kabam money. Kabam execs can actually look at their retention and revenue data, we can't. Every time someone makes this assertion and the numbers prove them wrong, it simply makes that particular threat increasingly silly.
People quit all the time, people stop spending all the time. A "warning" from the community regarding spending has no teeth. If it actually happens and it is noticeable Kabam will notice it whether the community "warns" them or not. Conversely, if the community warns them and it doesn't happen, that warning just reminds Kabam how little the forums actually represent the majority of players, and weakens our ability to have our voices heard.
Ultimately, game companies don't care what players say, they care what players do. If what we say mirrors what players do, our voices have credibility. If it doesn't we don't. I'm sure someone will come along and say that Kabam doesn't have credibility either. But that's irrelevant. We need credibility for Kabam to listen to us. Kabam doesn't need credibility to change the game any way they want. If they don't listen to us and we don't listen to them in return, the only people who lose is us, not them. The game doesn't depend on the couple thousand of us. It mostly depends on the hundreds of thousands or millions of players that don't post on forums or Reddit, and for that matter mostly don't care about anything we're discussing. Most players, even most spenders, are only superficially involved in these issues, if at all. Kabam needs them. It doesn't need us. If we're going to make a difference, we can't keep making empty threats and throwing tantrums and thinking we lead an army of players behind us. There's no one behind us. Its just us.
We agree on companies reacting to what players do. I wasn't a forum visitor when 12.0 hit. I got my information on youtube, I didn't need to make my response online to stop spending. There are plenty of guys that don't post that feel the same way I do now. Kabam can take this lightly if they won't and they likely will but when it impacts their wallets things will change, I'm just trying to get them ahead of the game so they don't have to back pedal and revisit. Which is often what they do.