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Hyperion
Jabbawokky
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If you are going to keep Hyperion with a ridiculous amount of power gain, at least make him fight instead of hiding behind block the entire match and using nothing but L3 specials. Fighting 15k Hyperions in act 5 that does nothing but hide behind block in very much a cheap shot bordering on a cheat on the part of the game. I guess its a coincidence that the 2 champs that wouldve dealt with this easily got nerfed.
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You can bait his specials easily. You can power lock/drain him, you can nullify, etc
First you dont know me. 2nd, you dont know what champs I own or dont own. 3rd, if AI wants you to die, all the baiting in the world will not make him use his special.
Agree. So many options in the game, Hyperion is not a headache, unless you dont know how to use play against him
When you create a thread like this one I obviously know that you don't know how to fight Hyperion.
He doesn't need a nerf. You just need to learn how to bait his specials
A good solution for this is to stop his power gain at special 2 and make him earn his special 3 thru regular hits.
Dr. Strange power gain is different. He was nerfed due to that and because he had a good lifesteal.
But I agree that he was way too nerfed
Out of every champ you named, I own 2. DS and SW. DS is so weak its pitiful and Scarlet doesnt power steal, power drain, or power lock when you need it most. Don't try to get on here preaching what I already know. It doesnt change the facts of the original post. I know how to fight Hyperion and I also know when the game is being lame. Thank you but no thank you
If you know how to fight hyperion you would not be making this post. Yes he is difficult but if you fight him correctly he is a good challenge not broken. If he is hiding behind his block you are doing something wrong evading, getting in close, doing one hit into his block all coerce him into running at you and not holding block. DS even though he hits very soft now the nerf has not effected his sig if you play well Dr strange even at 3/30 will get the job done. I fight multiple hyperions in war and I rarely die unless I make a mistake while baiting. Practice by dueling hyperions with 2 or 3 stars theres a hyperion near the bottom of the global leaderboards that doesnt have suicides that makes good practice. If you spend like 30 minutes adjusting your baiting tactics you can get him to throw specials quite easily I can consistently beat 4/55 hyperions with a 2* starlord or magik in duels
I have 4* SW at 5/50 sig 99. I never have a problem against Hyperion. I have DS at 4/40 sig 64, and he also is a pretty good counter to him. I do agree that it was pretty aweful to nerf DS as much as they did, then rub it in our faces with the likes of Hyperion, Dr. Voodoo, Mordo and a host of other new champs. Shame on you, Kabam/Netmarbles.
I agree with you 100% Strange was nerfed from a God to a temper tantrum throwing grade schooler. I once dreaded facing him. Now I snigger to myself when I see him in a fight. My 3* Strange sig lvl 68 4/40 was once a moderately formidable champion. Once nerfed he was sold to bolster my gold & iso reserves.
Hyperion though formidable does not compare to the original Strange many of us once fell prey to.
I don't have power control champs.
Hyperion isn't hard at all
I mean, you have one of the best counters to Hyperion, along with the fact there's a class advantage and Hyperion is pretty much probably a rank higher than you. Of course it isn't hard lol.
OP has a slight point, but can be applied to more than just Hyperion. If the AI, regardless of champion, really didn't want to pop a special, then you could technically die to L3s even though you could be the best baiter in the world. It's unlikely, but possible.
This is why while Hyperion can be fought with any champion, certain champions are better suited because they are able to power control him, hence a greater chance of him not reaching L3 and popping it.
Practice makes perfect!
But there have already been many topics on this. Unfortunately, I am not sure Kabam is listening.
Man thank you!! Some of these gurus just refuse to get that in their thick skull.
I don't most of the posters listed champs but I do DS and SW. Ive rekt Hyperion multiple times with DS and SW. Hyperion is easily baitable. If your DS is duped, he'll buy you time by removing Hyper's Power Gain buffer. Same with SW.
Gotta learn how to bait and fight Hype. Easy champ to fight if you know how. Nerfs aren't the way to go, 12.0 proved that
You should read and interpret before speaking man.
Doctor Strange was not nerfed because of his Power Gain. I've mentioned this before.
I'm not asking for a nerf but you're incorrect. Sometimes he tosses out specials like free candy, other times he folds his arms like a smug pomopous jackass and l3s you into oblivion.
Actually, it's not just Hyperion. It just happens that he builds Power when he does it. It's one of the AI's modes, from what I've observed. It's either aggressively advancing, or waiting for a surprise attack while holding Block.
If you'd like I'll send you a video of me taking out a couple act 5 hyperions with 3/30 strange or a couple other older champs I did the first 2 chapters of act 5.2 with 3 stars and 3/30s just for a challenge and I'm sure there is a hyperion or two in those chapters. I didn't mean to offend you if thats the way you took it, I'm not an great player by any means and its just rng with baiting but with certain strategies you can almost guarantee he throws specials. I can say with almost 100% certainty your act 5 is not different from anyone else, the act 5 AI might be different from AQ/AQ AIs so you might just have to adjust your baiting tactics to suit this AI