Iron Man IW vs Havok

JDunk2291JDunk2291 Member Posts: 464 ★★
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Havok's plasma detonation doesnt have an effect on champs with an armor up buff but just got wrecked by havok when using Iron Man and also having 3 molecular Armor buffs. Is this bug or intentional because iron man's armor buffs are passive

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    JDunk2291 said:

    Havok's plasma detonation doesnt have an effect on champs with an armor up buff but just got wrecked by havok when using Iron Man and also having 3 molecular Armor buffs. Is this bug or intentional because iron man's armor buffs are passive

    IMIW does not have armor up buffs, he has armor up passives. Passives are not buffs.
  • JDunk2291JDunk2291 Member Posts: 464 ★★
    Armor up buffs and armor up passives are different but it's STILL armor up so why is Iron Infinity affected
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,599 ★★★★★
    JDunk2291 said:

    Armor up buffs and armor up passives are different but it's STILL armor up so why is Iron Infinity affected

    Because havok requires an armour up buff to be stopped
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Because its not a buff, like the previous person explained to you.
    You need armor up buffs. No passive armor will work against him
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    JDunk2291 said:

    Armor up buffs and armor up passives are different but it's STILL armor up so why is Iron Infinity affected

    because they wanted to make him that way. His spotlight requires buffs, not passives.
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    JDunk2291 said:

    Armor up buffs and armor up passives are different but it's STILL armor up so why is Iron Infinity affected

    Cause its exactly like you said, armor up buffs and armor up passives are different, to bypass havok you need armor up buffs
  • JDunk2291JDunk2291 Member Posts: 464 ★★
    Ugh...the loop holes in this game are SO STUPID
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Its not a loop hole. It is a clear stated ability that shouldn't cause missunderstanding if you know the differences between a buff and a passive ability
  • JDunk2291JDunk2291 Member Posts: 464 ★★
    will-o-wisp said:

    Its not a loop hole. It is a clear stated ability that shouldn't cause missunderstanding if you know the differences between a buff and a passive ability

    The armor up being PASSIVE is Exactly why it's a loophole. It's still armor up but because it's PASSIVE it doesn't apply to certain situations...that sounds loophole-ish to me lmao
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    JDunk2291 said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    Its not a loop hole. It is a clear stated ability that shouldn't cause missunderstanding if you know the differences between a buff and a passive ability

    The armor up being PASSIVE is Exactly why it's a loophole. It's still armor up but because it's PASSIVE it doesn't apply to certain situations...that sounds loophole-ish to me lmao
    Because it is a passive, it can't be nullified or affected the same way buffs are.
    Buffs work one way and suffer on some scenarios, while passive abilities work another way and also suffer in different scenarios.
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  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, as some have mentioned, Armor Up Buffs are different than Armor Passive Effects and Havok's ability specifies that the damage is only prevented by Armor Up Buffs. Buffs are a type of effect that can be distinguished by the light ring around the border of their icon and, as some others have mentioned, can be Nullified or prevented by Staggers. Passive Effects are a separate type of effect that don't have a light border around their icon; Passive Effects are unable to be Nullified and cannot be prevented with Stagger.
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