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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    runrebel said:

    Lormif said:

    CoMinow said:

    Does no one remember the disclaimer you had to click to keep playing after the EU ruling? Or read any of the patents kabam holds? There isn't a single one for 100% random generation...

    They clearly told you they would use your game data to tailor your gaming experience!... if you believe that what you get is 100% random your ignoring facts or just naive. They told all of us quite clearly how this works.

    Ps. It is a business! They aren't here to be generous or help. I'm sure when McDonalds gives away all their food for free I'm sure kabam will let you choose what champs and other"prizes" you want.....lol

    Of course there is no patent for a 100% random generator on a computer, because IT CANNOT EXIST. It has to be seeded by something less than random, the computer clock...

    if they advertised this as random and it was not random then they would be violating countless laws in most countries, but that fact does not matter, all that matters is that your bad luck cannot actually be bad luck, it has to be a conspiracy to get you, despite people every day opening and getting the standard distribution, statisics be darned it is about you, and them trying to get you.
    Yeah I don’t believe in that kind of consistent bad luck. The same way that when I used to buy 5* crystals to get champs I would end up with the worst ones in the game every time. I stopped buying crystals for that reason and will do the same here. I Would have to see independently verified third-party statistics proving that their results fall within the standard deviation of being random. I don’t think they advertise that the awakening gems are random by class.
    Does not matter if you "believe" in something, you believing in it has no bearing if it is true or not. It falls within the realm of statistically possible.
  • NCB_ptNCB_pt Member Posts: 291
    6* are the future.

    If spend money, spend in 6* champions.

  • UnFazedSkullUnFazedSkull Member Posts: 245 ★★
    Kennado said:

    I'm with you brother 100%. Until they smarten up and allow us a choose your class awakening gem, I won't purchase an RNG gem again. Waste of money because whatever class is in your inventory the most is what you'll get. It's not even randomized. It's fact. Make it worse is that you can't get a refund.

    Did you just say "choose your class" awakening gem? Do you mean a generic lol
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,988 ★★★★★

    Kennado said:

    I'm with you brother 100%. Until they smarten up and allow us a choose your class awakening gem, I won't purchase an RNG gem again. Waste of money because whatever class is in your inventory the most is what you'll get. It's not even randomized. It's fact. Make it worse is that you can't get a refund.

    Did you just say "choose your class" awakening gem? Do you mean a generic lol
    There's been one offer that allowed you to choose a AG class that you wanted and included sig stones too.
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Something people fail to realise with this whole same class ag thing is that only the people who experience it post about it, most people won’t post if they get a class they don’t already have, but if someone has tons of the same then it gets posted, if you took a very large sample size with a mixture of players rather than a few ally mates you tubers and forum posters who go on about it then you would see much more balanced results, my last 2 ages have been science, my 1st one, and mutant which was also my first, despite me already having tech and mystic in the stash
  • runrebelrunrebel Member Posts: 25
    Lormif said:

    runrebel said:

    Lormif said:

    CoMinow said:

    Does no one remember the disclaimer you had to click to keep playing after the EU ruling? Or read any of the patents kabam holds? There isn't a single one for 100% random generation...

    They clearly told you they would use your game data to tailor your gaming experience!... if you believe that what you get is 100% random your ignoring facts or just naive. They told all of us quite clearly how this works.

    Ps. It is a business! They aren't here to be generous or help. I'm sure when McDonalds gives away all their food for free I'm sure kabam will let you choose what champs and other"prizes" you want.....lol

    Of course there is no patent for a 100% random generator on a computer, because IT CANNOT EXIST. It has to be seeded by something less than random, the computer clock...

    if they advertised this as random and it was not random then they would be violating countless laws in most countries, but that fact does not matter, all that matters is that your bad luck cannot actually be bad luck, it has to be a conspiracy to get you, despite people every day opening and getting the standard distribution, statisics be darned it is about you, and them trying to get you.
    Yeah I don’t believe in that kind of consistent bad luck. The same way that when I used to buy 5* crystals to get champs I would end up with the worst ones in the game every time. I stopped buying crystals for that reason and will do the same here. I Would have to see independently verified third-party statistics proving that their results fall within the standard deviation of being random. I don’t think they advertise that the awakening gems are random by class.
    Does not matter if you "believe" in something, you believing in it has no bearing if it is true or not. It falls within the realm of statistically possible.
    You don't know that because you don’t know the other outcomes across the game so you don’t know if this is statistically random any more than I do.
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★
    I think if you did a wider survey you would find that this is more common than you think. Just as not every summoner who opens a 5 or six star claire voyant rushes in to brag about it, not everyone who gets kabam'd over and over again posts about it. I myself have opened 5 of the exact same champ on the same day from an assortment of crystals. The free daily, a puchased phc and three constructed phc, all opened different times during the day and all gifting me a lovely 2 star yellowjacket...and for that reason i will never spend real money on champ crystals or any crystal that is in this game. I very simply do not trust the rng.
  • MΛSSΛCREMΛSSΛCRE Member Posts: 101
    Im pretty sure DF is the new GW
  • ReferenceReference Member Posts: 2,903 ★★★★★
    My RNG luck is:
    - I have 11 Skill and 9 Mystic T4 Class Catalysts yet I’m in short of Science and Mutant, thus I tried the 3 for 1 RNG box.
    - For 1st trial I gave up 3 Skill and I pulled 1 Mystic;
    - Then for 2nd trial I gave up 3 Mystic and I pulled 1.......Skill.

    So after the RNG I have 9 Skill and 7 Mystic T4cc.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,988 ★★★★★

    Im pretty sure DF is the new GW

    You're supposed to have left for the night. There ya go again, making stuff up.
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  • KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Member Posts: 1,242 ★★★★


    I'll just leave this here and see myself out. 🤫👍
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    edited October 2019
    Rap said:

    I think if you did a wider survey you would find that this is more common than you think. Just as not every summoner who opens a 5 or six star claire voyant rushes in to brag about it, not everyone who gets kabam'd over and over again posts about it. I myself have opened 5 of the exact same champ on the same day from an assortment of crystals. The free daily, a puchased phc and three constructed phc, all opened different times during the day and all gifting me a lovely 2 star yellowjacket...and for that reason i will never spend real money on champ crystals or any crystal that is in this game. I very simply do not trust the rng.

    statistically this is incorrect. Based on Studies customers who have a bad experience (real or perceived) are 2-3 times more likely to write review than customers who a happy. In addition customers who have a bad experience(real or perceived) share it more often, generally 5 times more. And that is just base level, when it comes to forums it can be as great as 10-1
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★
    edited October 2019
    The grandmaster daily banner says there is an increased chance to aquire a 5 star tech champion? But the drop rates show that 5 star drop rates on that crystal are 5%? Every Grandmaster has a 5 percent change at a 5, those with an increased chance and those that do not...if you disagree with that statement i suggest you go look. So if a crystal that does not state it has an increased chance is 5 % and one that does is 5 %??? Then where is that increased chance? Again, i do not trust the rng...i understand that you can increase a particular hero availability in a crystal without altering the drop rates but when every champ in the crystal is in the same class and there is no featured hero...and you tout an increased chance at a 5 star of that class it seems to me that 5 percent should go up or there really isn't an increased chance.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Rap said:

    The grandmaster daily banner says there is an increased chance to aquire a 5 star tech champion? But the drop rates show that 5 star drop rates on that crystal are 5%? Every Grandmaster has a 5 percent change at a 5, those with an increased chance and those that do not...if you disagree with that statement i suggest you go look. So if a crystal that does not state it has an increased chance is 5 % and one that does is 5 %??? Then where is that increased chance? Again, i do not trust the rng...i understand that you can increase a particular hero availability in a crystal without altering the drop rates but when every champ in the crystal is in the same class and there is no featured hero...and you tout an increased chance at a 5 star of that class it seems to me that 5 percent should go up or there really isn't an increased chance.

    it is increased over the others because while it has the same percentage chance to get a 5* you dont have the extra calculation over what class. In a normal grandmaster you have a .8% chance to get a 5* tech, due to it having all the classes in it, in this one you have a flat 5% chance.
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★
    edited October 2019
    I see. So it isn't actually an increased chance at a 5 star like it sounds it is simply a greater chance that because it is a tech crystal all the fives are tech...i see...that is somewhat misleading.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Rap said:

    I see. So it isn't actually an increased chance at a 5 star like it sounds it is simply a greater chance that because it is a tech crystal all the fives are tech...i see...that is somewhat misleading.

    /eyeroll
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  • Kabam LyraKabam Lyra Member Posts: 2,936 ★★★★
    runrebel said:

    I’m done with the big purchases with this game. Just threw away $70 on the awakening gem just to get another tech. I now have 3 in inventory. I should have known better than to purchase it. The free awakening we got a few weeks ago I got tech, the last one I bought was tech so should have known this would end up the same. The odds of that are astronomical I think they have something in their formula that checks your inventory and gives you what you already have. Until they give you a class choice I am done with the $$.

    I'm sorry to hear you are disappointed in which awakening gem you received. But please know the drops are random and are not affected by your inventory.
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