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### Pick your Champ ### 2

WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
Hi All,

Those who saw 1st question will understand this concept. I am interested to see the community choice If kabam ever creates a fight with below nodes, I want to see which champ community would like to choose.

Attacker will start degenerating 100 % of there health over 5 seconds if any of the following happens

1. Attacker does not use special attack in 1 min. Using any special attack will reset this timer
2. Attacker uses same special attack which is one of his last 2 special attacks. Means you have to use all three special attacks and in the same cycle
3. Attacker deals more than 1 hit in single Action. Action includes light, medium, Heavy, sp1 , sp2 and sp3. Hits can been seen in combo meter.

I am curious to see the available options. Please comment your choice.

Note: Defender is of high health pool.
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Comments

  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★
    The deadpools I think are the only champs in the game with 1 hit specials.
  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★
    Excluding venompool
  • RoninManRoninMan Posts: 747 ★★★★
    edited October 2019
    Iron Man/SIM. Although it would be painful.

    Edit: forgot IM L3 is multiple hits.

    This one may be impossible. At least one champ’s special or their heavy hits multiple times. If there is a champ that can do it, it’s probably an OG champ.
  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★
    edited October 2019
    I mean a rank 4 awakened goldpool can do it. He doesn't hit like a wet noodle. Also you don't have to throw a heavy attack as stated by the node so you're good.
  • TheLegend27TheLegend27 Posts: 1,315 ★★★★★
    I think Archangel could probably do it. Build to an SP3 first so you have time to apply bleeds/poisons/neurotoxins from just normal combos (sure, you gotta be lucky for Angel to work). Then just fight like a normal fight. Archangel's neurotoxins should be able to shut this down, right?

    I'm blanking on Storm's SP3 - does it have more than 1 hit to it? Otherwise, Storm could do it. Maybe Karnak....if you can consistently build to an SP2, throw it into a block, and then build to an SP3 within a 1-minute time span. I don't know about that timing though.
  • Thi101Thi101 Posts: 808 ★★★
    Is there any character that every special has only a single hit? i don’t think so
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    @TheLegend27 I guess Archangel would reduce only champion abilities and not the node abilities. Try this out with Act 6 nodes.
    Storm sp3 got more than 1 hit. Karnak sp2 has 2 hits.
    1 min is enough time to build sp3 on any champs including symsupreme which is the slowest

    @Skillful_star good pick on dead pool. So dead pool/ gold pool with out heavy attack is one good option.
  • Thi101Thi101 Posts: 808 ★★★
    @TheLegend27
    I also thought of Storm, but her SP3 has 5 or 6 hits
  • Thi101Thi101 Posts: 808 ★★★
    @WhiteStriker

    I’m pretty sure the Deadpools are the only viable choice to this node
    I can’t think of any other champ with one singe hit on every special

    The closest I came was with OG Captain Marvel/Ms Marvel, but their SP3 has 2 hits.

    EDIT: Just checked the entire list of the in-game champions.
    Deadpool, Deadpool (X-Force) and Goldpool are the only ones able to bypass the third node.
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    @Thi101 I do feel so. But I felt of no champs to clear this while writing the post. let us see if some one got any other interesting options or different play styles while I think of my next set of nodes :smile:
  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★
    edited October 2019
    Actually maybe heimdall if you time his sp1 for it to only hit the opponent on the final slam,cause his sp2 has 1 hit and so does his sp3.
  • TwmRTwmR Posts: 662 ★★★

    @TheLegend27 I guess Archangel would reduce only champion abilities and not the node abilities. Try this out with Act 6 nodes.
    Storm sp3 got more than 1 hit. Karnak sp2 has 2 hits.
    1 min is enough time to build sp3 on any champs including symsupreme which is the slowest

    @Skillful_star good pick on dead pool. So dead pool/ gold pool with out heavy attack is one good option.

    Ability accuracy reductions to affect nodes as well. So AA could work but you'd have to get neuros on without using heavy or specials.
    Quake would work as concussion could stop the degen from happening
  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★
    Also starlord.sp1 1 hit,sp2 1 hit if you hit it from a distance and sp3 has 1 hit too. But also no heavy,he's actually the best for this cause he hits very hard after a while.
  • SL sp1, with certain champions you could work the spacing and hope that only the latter half of a special hits
  • dot_dittodot_ditto Posts: 1,442 ★★★★

    Hi All,

    Those who saw 1st question will understand this concept. I am interested to see the community choice If kabam ever creates a fight with below nodes, I want to see which champ community would like to choose.

    Attacker will start degenerating 100 % of there health over 5 seconds if any of the following happens

    1. Attacker does not use special attack in 1 min. Using any special attack will reset this timer
    2. Attacker uses same special attack which is one of his last 2 special attacks. Means you have to use all three special attacks and in the same cycle

    uh ... so you have 5 s to reach sp1 .. you throw it .. then you have 5s to reach sp2 ?
    and then 5s to reach sp3?

    yeah, first one was interesting, this is just a bit over the top now ... ;)

  • EarthEliteEarthElite Posts: 879 ★★★
    Starlord has one hit in all of his specials, if you don't stand close to the enemy on a SP2.
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    @TwmR Then consider my defender is immune to ability accuracy reduction. These challenges are more specific to see which champion can get thru the given play style by not disabling the play style itself . i hope you get it :smile:

    @Skillful_star Starlord sp 3 got 4 hits. You can look at combo meter for number of hits. But Heim dal option can be consider. Hoping that auto block would trigger on time when sp1 misses. And yes you made me remind that sp1 and sp2 does not need to make a contact. As I mentioned just triggering the special would reset the timer. I guess lots of options are open now. But just need some kind of technique not to get hit back.
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    dot_ditto said:

    Hi All,

    Those who saw 1st question will understand this concept. I am interested to see the community choice If kabam ever creates a fight with below nodes, I want to see which champ community would like to choose.

    Attacker will start degenerating 100 % of there health over 5 seconds if any of the following happens

    1. Attacker does not use special attack in 1 min. Using any special attack will reset this timer
    2. Attacker uses same special attack which is one of his last 2 special attacks. Means you have to use all three special attacks and in the same cycle

    uh ... so you have 5 s to reach sp1 .. you throw it .. then you have 5s to reach sp2 ?
    and then 5s to reach sp3?

    yeah, first one was interesting, this is just a bit over the top now ... ;)

    Not 5 seconds it would work like 1 min for each special to be triggered
  • Thi101Thi101 Posts: 808 ★★★

    Also starlord.sp1 1 hit,sp2 1 hit if you hit it from a distance and sp3 has 1 hit too. But also no heavy,he's actually the best for this cause he hits very hard after a while.

    Star Lord has 4 hits on his SP3
    2 punches, one kick and the gun
  • Skillful_starSkillful_star Posts: 756 ★★★

    @TwmR Then consider my defender is immune to ability accuracy reduction. These challenges are more specific to see which champion can get thru the given play style by not disabling the play style itself . i hope you get it :smile:

    @Skillful_star Starlord sp 3 got 4 hits. You can look at combo meter for number of hits. But Heim dal option can be consider. Hoping that auto block would trigger on time when sp1 misses. And yes you made me remind that sp1 and sp2 does not need to make a contact. As I mentioned just triggering the special would reset the timer. I guess lots of options are open now. But just need some kind of technique not to get hit
    Oh right,well colossus works now that I think about it. If you time his sp1 and sp2 to only land 1 hit. His sp3 is 1 hit I'm 100% sure.

  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★

    @TwmR Then consider my defender is immune to ability accuracy reduction. These challenges are more specific to see which champion can get thru the given play style by not disabling the play style itself . i hope you get it :smile:

    @Skillful_star Starlord sp 3 got 4 hits. You can look at combo meter for number of hits. But Heim dal option can be consider. Hoping that auto block would trigger on time when sp1 misses. And yes you made me remind that sp1 and sp2 does not need to make a contact. As I mentioned just triggering the special would reset the timer. I guess lots of options are open now. But just need some kind of technique not to get hit back.

    Now you're just trolling 😆

    This is impossible.
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107

    @TwmR Then consider my defender is immune to ability accuracy reduction. These challenges are more specific to see which champion can get thru the given play style by not disabling the play style itself . i hope you get it :smile:

    @Skillful_star Starlord sp 3 got 4 hits. You can look at combo meter for number of hits. But Heim dal option can be consider. Hoping that auto block would trigger on time when sp1 misses. And yes you made me remind that sp1 and sp2 does not need to make a contact. As I mentioned just triggering the special would reset the timer. I guess lots of options are open now. But just need some kind of technique not to get hit
    Oh right,well colossus works now that I think about it. If you time his sp1 and sp2 to only land 1 hit. His sp3 is 1 hit I'm 100% sure.

    By just not connecting sp1 and sp2 would not work. If the defender blocks your sp and hits you back, 1 combo is enough for KO.

    @Colonaut123, Deadpool , gold pool and dead pool x force have been identified as the best options. There could some hiding
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    I created ### Pick your Champ ### 3 post with completely new set of nodes. Interested people can answer.
  • dot_dittodot_ditto Posts: 1,442 ★★★★

    dot_ditto said:

    Hi All,

    Those who saw 1st question will understand this concept. I am interested to see the community choice If kabam ever creates a fight with below nodes, I want to see which champ community would like to choose.

    Attacker will start degenerating 100 % of there health over 5 seconds if any of the following happens

    1. Attacker does not use special attack in 1 min. Using any special attack will reset this timer
    2. Attacker uses same special attack which is one of his last 2 special attacks. Means you have to use all three special attacks and in the same cycle

    uh ... so you have 5 s to reach sp1 .. you throw it .. then you have 5s to reach sp2 ?
    and then 5s to reach sp3?

    yeah, first one was interesting, this is just a bit over the top now ... ;)

    Not 5 seconds it would work like 1 min for each special to be triggered
    OOhh .. I'm sorry, I read that wrong ... :)
    I see now ..

    hmmm

    champs with single hit specials is the limiter then .. as somebody else mentioned ... although I'm guessing nobody has all 3 with only 1 hit.

    I'll list some I think are good candidates, but I'm not sure about their special 3s:

    Cpt America (Classic) ?maybe? how many hits are his specials?
    Deadpool
    Groot
    Karnak
    Mordo
    Ms. Marvel (classic)
    Ms. Marvel (kamala)
    Starlord (his sp2 has 2 hits, but you might be able to control it by allowing the first to miss)
    Storm (I think her sp3 has multiple hits, right?)
    Vision (both AoU, or original .. not Aarkus)

    I think those are the only ones even remotely worth looking at ??
    (and most of them I doubt their sp3 works)
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    dot_ditto said:

    dot_ditto said:

    Hi All,

    Those who saw 1st question will understand this concept. I am interested to see the community choice If kabam ever creates a fight with below nodes, I want to see which champ community would like to choose.

    Attacker will start degenerating 100 % of there health over 5 seconds if any of the following happens

    1. Attacker does not use special attack in 1 min. Using any special attack will reset this timer
    2. Attacker uses same special attack which is one of his last 2 special attacks. Means you have to use all three special attacks and in the same cycle

    uh ... so you have 5 s to reach sp1 .. you throw it .. then you have 5s to reach sp2 ?
    and then 5s to reach sp3?

    yeah, first one was interesting, this is just a bit over the top now ... ;)

    Not 5 seconds it would work like 1 min for each special to be triggered
    OOhh .. I'm sorry, I read that wrong ... :)
    I see now ..

    hmmm

    champs with single hit specials is the limiter then .. as somebody else mentioned ... although I'm guessing nobody has all 3 with only 1 hit.

    I'll list some I think are good candidates, but I'm not sure about their special 3s:

    Cpt America (Classic) ?maybe? how many hits are his specials?
    Deadpool
    Groot
    Karnak
    Mordo
    Ms. Marvel (classic)
    Ms. Marvel (kamala)
    Starlord (his sp2 has 2 hits, but you might be able to control it by allowing the first to miss)
    Storm (I think her sp3 has multiple hits, right?)
    Vision (both AoU, or original .. not Aarkus)

    I think those are the only ones even remotely worth looking at ??
    (and most of them I doubt their sp3 works)
    only deadpool works

    cpt America, karnak : sp2 got 2 attacks
    groot, kamala : sp1 2 attacks
    rest all more than 1 attack in sp3
  • Bawa69Bawa69 Posts: 488 ★★★
    deadpool, deadpol (xforce) or goldpool the only option for this node
  • EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS WAY TOO MUCH!! THE ANSWERS ARE EASY!!

    A Sig 200 Namor will not only make this a doable fight, but an easy one. All you need to do is hit him (even into his block) and after the 5 seconds, the opponent will take all the damage you're taking from the degenerate. Medium, triple light, dash back, intercept, medium, triple light until the 5 seconds are up. Maybe you'd take a little bit if the defense damage when dashing back, but not enough to be substantial, especially with all the regen on his specials (speaking of, you don't even need to worry about using his specials either because of the damage reflection.) Plus, Namor can throw multiple unblockable Sp2's in Imperius Rex, so all he has to do is dash in and throw them while the degen is active and you shouldn't take any degen damage.

    Ghost is the other great option. The second you get the degen, dash back and not only do you completely ignore the damage, but you convert it to a fury. Medium light, phase, wait for them to hit you, repeat. You can still use all your specials and immediately dash back afterwards.
  • EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    You guys are getting this all wrong!

    Of course Goldpool, Deadpool and Deadpool X-Force work for this node, but there are 2 other options that not only make this node doable, but make it easy.

    Sig 200 Namor will take any of the degen damage and reflect it back at the defender when attacking into them, play aggressively enough and you'll barely take any of it. The damage you do take, you can regen with specials. And because of this damage reflect, you don't have to worry about using the specials, especially since you can use several in Imperius Rex, adding up to at least 5 seconds worth where he can reflect all the damage back and take none of it.

    And then there's Ghost. All you have to do is dash back and not only will she take away the degen, but convert it to a fury. Just medium, light, dash back, wait for him to hit you, repeat. You can also work up to a Sp3, use it and immediately dash back afterwards. Kind of like how she ignores recoil damage.

    So am I the one that's getting this wrong or are you guys?
  • WhiteStrikerWhiteStriker Posts: 107
    edited October 2019
    Etjama said:

    You guys are getting this all wrong!

    Of course Goldpool, Deadpool and Deadpool X-Force work for this node, but there are 2 other options that not only make this node doable, but make it easy.

    Sig 200 Namor will take any of the degen damage and reflect it back at the defender when attacking into them, play aggressively enough and you'll barely take any of it. The damage you do take, you can regen with specials. And because of this damage reflect, you don't have to worry about using the specials, especially since you can use several in Imperius Rex, adding up to at least 5 seconds worth where he can reflect all the damage back and take none of it.

    And then there's Ghost. All you have to do is dash back and not only will she take away the degen, but convert it to a fury. Just medium, light, dash back, wait for him to hit you, repeat. You can also work up to a Sp3, use it and immediately dash back afterwards. Kind of like how she ignores recoil damage.

    So am I the one that's getting this wrong or are you guys?


    Namor all specials has multiple hits. But special animation is a bit extended. How ever aggressive you play you will take atleast 1 sec of degen per special. i.e., (5 specials or max 6 ) is enough to be KO.
    Degeneration is passive. Ghost shrug off will not work.
  • EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★

    Etjama said:

    You guys are getting this all wrong!

    Of course Goldpool, Deadpool and Deadpool X-Force work for this node, but there are 2 other options that not only make this node doable, but make it easy.

    Sig 200 Namor will take any of the degen damage and reflect it back at the defender when attacking into them, play aggressively enough and you'll barely take any of it. The damage you do take, you can regen with specials. And because of this damage reflect, you don't have to worry about using the specials, especially since you can use several in Imperius Rex, adding up to at least 5 seconds worth where he can reflect all the damage back and take none of it.

    And then there's Ghost. All you have to do is dash back and not only will she take away the degen, but convert it to a fury. Just medium, light, dash back, wait for him to hit you, repeat. You can also work up to a Sp3, use it and immediately dash back afterwards. Kind of like how she ignores recoil damage.

    So am I the one that's getting this wrong or are you guys?


    Namor all specials has multiple hits. But special animation is a bit extended. How ever aggressive you play you will take atleast 1 sec of degen per special. i.e., (5 specials or max 6 ) is enough to be KO.
    Degeneration is passive. Ghost shrug off will not work.
    Just responded to this Namor comment on your first thread. The fact that the specials are extended just proves my point. Spam Sp3's and 2's and dash in right after and you'll be fine. You'll be able to do a single medium after many Sp2 ends and hop back and reset yourself. If it's passive, Ghost won't work, but you never said it was passive.
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