What is the difference between Elsa and Cable’s interaction with the double edge mastery?

NickMerks

What is the difference between Elsa and Cable’s interaction with the double edge mastery? And why are they functioning differently?

Lormif

NickMerks said:

What is the difference between Elsa and Cable’s interaction with the double edge mastery? And why are they functioning differently?

When caused to Bleed, Cable has a 100% chance to trigger his Heavy Attack Degeneration on his Opponent

This means when an opponent makes him bleed

Elsa's says:

When Elsa is affected by a Bleed Debuff, Non-Mutant Champions gain a Passive Degeneration dealing 145.92 Direct Damage every 0.5 seconds until all Bleed Debuffs on Elsa end. While this Degen is active Opponents are also Heal Blocked.

this means all bleed debuffs, regardless of the cause.

in addition elsa's does way less damage cable is 400% of attack, hers is like 25% of attack, and Elsa's can be avoided by an entire class of champs.

NickMerks

Thankyou

Lormif

Bajjsbwuqjw said:

Wrong

When caused to bleed doesnt mean opponent has to make him bleed
DE cable also degens you

According to the developers it does, and no DE cable will NOT degen you because of double edge, they fixed that a long time ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWRkLswT86k

You will note the only time he degened was when it activated his heavy, which is independent of DE, which was done to show the difference.

NickMerks

Kinda weird that they take it away from cable. And release a new champ a year later with the same ability.

Lormif

NickMerks said:

Kinda weird that they take it away from cable. And release a new champ a year later with the same ability.

it is much more limited in damage and scope, but does have a heal block component.

xNig

Well... when a lady is bleeding and you pick a fight with her, nothing you do will let you recover from it..

Lvernon15

Cables says something like when a bleed placed by his opponent, Elsa just says when affected by bleed

NickMerks

I hear Elsa kills you in 15secs without even touching you.