Blades Value...

smy168smy168 Member Posts: 219 ★★
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So after the shopping spree of Cyber Weekend...I have the resources to rank 5 Blade 5* and awaken him...is he still worth the bump?

I have others I can pop but wanted to limit this to Blade...thoughts?
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    smy168 said:

    So after the shopping spree of Cyber Weekend...I have the resources to rank 5 Blade 5* and awaken him...is he still worth the bump?

    I have others I can pop but wanted to limit this to Blade...thoughts?

    Depends where you are in content progression. If you're done with Act 5 and working on Act 6 he's not particularly useful. I won't say he's a bad champ by any means but his usefulness in late game content is on a severe decline. For people that already have him ranked, sure they'll still find uses for him but as a new rankup, eh how much he'll benefit you will depend on where you are in game
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Hes still great but I doubt I would get him above rank 3 for me personally. I just dont see where I would use blade in my Act 6 exploration.
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,099 ★★★★★
    Depends on your roster and other available options. Personally I wouldn't do that
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Blade fanboi club still going strong I see. Can't even be honest about him without people getting in a twist lol
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Cliffordcan said:

    What is this Blade slander??? I understand he is not the best champ in the game anymore, but he is still one of the cheapest. Yes, you won’t use him in every path of Act 6. But he is useful there, and all content below that (minus V2 and V3).

    He is still 3rd best Skill champ behind Ægon and NF, IMHO.

    Yes, top players won’t have much use for him, but for everyone not running Map 7 and still have a lot of story content to complete, you can’t go wrong with Blade.

    Ghost or quake are cheaper than Blade if you can use them and they both work for end game content. Taking zero damage the entire fight > having to block to regen damage you've taken. Blade is just easier to use
  • Horror_punkHorror_punk Member Posts: 1,058 ★★★★
    Simply BLADE=REVIVE FREE GAMING
  • JayBird_IsTheWordJayBird_IsTheWord Member Posts: 167 ★★
    learn to use him well and he will help you clear content. The danger sense alone improves dmg even against bleed immune
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  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Lmao, nostalgia peeps lose their minds when I tell them I dont see where I would use blade while exploring Act 6
  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    Midnite93 said:

    He ia best against mystics and villians and pretty decent regen as well

    Isn't his regen the best in the game of am I thinking about an outdated comment from a youtuber? The regen on demand with the only requirement being 'have some of your power meter filled' is insane I think.
  • Eric987Eric987 Member Posts: 78 ★
    Honestly depends on what else is available to rank up from your roster. If you got someone like warlock or Namor I'd say do that but Blade is still worth r5 . Still alot of uses in act 6 (I'm exploring 6.3 right now) and I still use in AQ and AW all the time (Tier 1/2 - Plat 1/Masters). Also helps that he's not available as 6* so as a 5* that's still worth ranking up IMO.
  • arsjumarsjum Member Posts: 412 ★★★
    Tehsigzorz said:

    Lmao, nostalgia peeps lose their minds when I tell them I dont see where I would use blade while exploring Act 6

    I'm sure some of the comments have to do with nostalgia but some of it is based on actual experience. To give an example, take the mystic path in 6.3.3. by pairing him with Dorm/Mephisto. He single handedly clears the whole path with ease, no potions or revives needed. There are many other paths he can clear very effectively and efficiently.

    He's of course more useful in preceding chapters.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    Can someone explain what blade can handle well? I'm not saying he's bad or has lost value, I'm just unclear what makes him so good. I understand his Regen is awesome and his parry bleeds can be used for cheese tactics but I don't know what else
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    arsjum said:

    Tehsigzorz said:

    Lmao, nostalgia peeps lose their minds when I tell them I dont see where I would use blade while exploring Act 6

    I'm sure some of the comments have to do with nostalgia but some of it is based on actual experience. To give an example, take the mystic path in 6.3.3. by pairing him with Dorm/Mephisto. He single handedly clears the whole path with ease, no potions or revives needed. There are many other paths he can clear very effectively and efficiently.

    He's of course more useful in preceding chapters.
    That path is incredibly easy though, gonna be using omega red myself but it seems any science champ will work and human torch will completely destroy that path.
  • arsjumarsjum Member Posts: 412 ★★★
    Tehsigzorz said:

    arsjum said:

    Tehsigzorz said:

    Lmao, nostalgia peeps lose their minds when I tell them I dont see where I would use blade while exploring Act 6

    I'm sure some of the comments have to do with nostalgia but some of it is based on actual experience. To give an example, take the mystic path in 6.3.3. by pairing him with Dorm/Mephisto. He single handedly clears the whole path with ease, no potions or revives needed. There are many other paths he can clear very effectively and efficiently.

    He's of course more useful in preceding chapters.
    That path is incredibly easy though, gonna be using omega red myself but it seems any science champ will work and human torch will completely destroy that path.
    You'll be taking a lot of chip damage from defenders like Juggernaut because of that tenacity 2. Would like to see someone demonstrate clearing the whole path with Human Torch without item use or "any science champ." The only one I am sure can do it is Quake in the hands of a skilled player. Would like to be proved wrong though.

    Omega will do fine of course if you are running suicides.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    arsjum said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Blade fanboi club still going strong I see. Can't even be honest about him without people getting in a twist lol

    What is dishonest about sharing our experience of using him for end game content, including Act 6? I'm 100% in all of end game content, used him quite a bit in Act 6.3 as well. Sure, there are champions who can outshine him in the hardest content available but to dismiss him as useless or ineffective there is closer to dishonesty than any blade famboyism displaced so far imho :)
    I never said he was useless once. I said his usefulness was on the decline and it just is. Just bc people that have had him ranked for a year plus continue to shoehorn him into teams and manage to get through stuff does not mean he's a good let alone great option for what they're using him for.

    If you're still in love with Blade, knock yourself out and use him until Act 8 for all I care. I just think it's wrong to continue to advise players to make him a top rankup option is all. In most current situations he's okay. In some he's great. That makes him niche if anything which definitely not make a champ a top rankup option for someone that doesnt already have him at R5
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    Cliffordcan said:

    What is this Blade slander??? I understand he is not the best champ in the game anymore, but he is still one of the cheapest. Yes, you won’t use him in every path of Act 6. But he is useful there, and all content below that (minus V2 and V3).

    He is still 3rd best Skill champ behind Ægon and NF, IMHO.

    Yes, top players won’t have much use for him, but for everyone not running Map 7 and still have a lot of story content to complete, you can’t go wrong with Blade.

    Ghost or quake are cheaper than Blade if you can use them and they both work for end game content. Taking zero damage the entire fight > having to block to regen damage you've taken. Blade is just easier to use
    I don’t disagree with that statement. I’m just not sure why you are making it since they are the best 2 champs in the game, so that is a true comparison of any other champ along with Blade. Not exactly intelligent or obscure or even helpful. But this is the internet, so I guess you are free to type whatever you want.
  • iRetr0iRetr0 Member Posts: 1,252 ★★★★
    Blade is still insanely useful, while he may not be the best, he still has the same power he had before, he can absolutely crush Mystics/Villains and he has one of, if not, the best regen in the game. Can't go wrong with him. Personally though, I would wait for an Ægon to awaken him and keep Blade at Rank 4
  • YsFYsF Member Posts: 151 ★★
    As someone who uses Blade regularly at rank 4 and awakened using skill gem, He's definitely good, no doubt about that. But the need for synergies definitely hurts when doing something like Act 6. But people saying he's not good for endgame content are just pissing themselves. Obviously you won't take him against The Champion Boss of Act 6, that doesn't mean he's useless. He's pretty OP in my opinion but rank 5s are rare (at least for me). Consider your other options and definitely don't use a generic awakening gem on him. The healing factor is great but it really hurts his playstyle.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Cliffordcan said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Cliffordcan said:

    What is this Blade slander??? I understand he is not the best champ in the game anymore, but he is still one of the cheapest. Yes, you won’t use him in every path of Act 6. But he is useful there, and all content below that (minus V2 and V3).

    He is still 3rd best Skill champ behind Ægon and NF, IMHO.

    Yes, top players won’t have much use for him, but for everyone not running Map 7 and still have a lot of story content to complete, you can’t go wrong with Blade.

    Ghost or quake are cheaper than Blade if you can use them and they both work for end game content. Taking zero damage the entire fight > having to block to regen damage you've taken. Blade is just easier to use
    I don’t disagree with that statement. I’m just not sure why you are making it since they are the best 2 champs in the game, so that is a true comparison of any other champ along with Blade. Not exactly intelligent or obscure or even helpful. But this is the internet, so I guess you are free to type whatever you want.
    You used survivability/cheapness as a reasoning for Blade still being a top champ. I listed two champs that are better at that and also still excel in late game content.

    For the hundredth time, yes I'm sure that players that have Blade raked up for a long time can still utilize him today effectively in some situations, I just don't think it's right to sell him as a TOP option for a new rankup anymore is all. He doesn't even get close to a top 10 and more than likely top 20 list of champs in game at the moment. Sure he may be around the 3rd best skill champ but outside aegon and fury, skill is really weak
  • arsjumarsjum Member Posts: 412 ★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    arsjum said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Blade fanboi club still going strong I see. Can't even be honest about him without people getting in a twist lol

    What is dishonest about sharing our experience of using him for end game content, including Act 6? I'm 100% in all of end game content, used him quite a bit in Act 6.3 as well. Sure, there are champions who can outshine him in the hardest content available but to dismiss him as useless or ineffective there is closer to dishonesty than any blade famboyism displaced so far imho :)
    I never said he was useless once. I said his usefulness was on the decline and it just is. Just bc people that have had him ranked for a year plus continue to shoehorn him into teams and manage to get through stuff does not mean he's a good let alone great option for what they're using him for.

    If you're still in love with Blade, knock yourself out and use him until Act 8 for all I care. I just think it's wrong to continue to advise players to make him a top rankup option is all. In most current situations he's okay. In some he's great. That makes him niche if anything which definitely not make a champ a top rankup option for someone that doesnt already have him at R5
    Right, you just called him "not particularly useful." I disagree. Others go to suggest he's useless for anything beyond Act 5.

    Dismissing the arguments of your opponents by calling them fanboys or Blade lovers is as convincing as dismissing yours by calling you a Blade hater. Neither adds anything to the discussion.

    If you are so good at using Ghost and Quake and can perfectly play them without losing much health, good for you. Not all of us are like that. Not me. And that's fine because this is a game and we do it for fun. Blade gives more room for error and crushes villains/mystics/bleeders most of the time. Those are the reasons I find him very useful in endgame content, not some abstract fanboyism for its own sake.

    There are many champions in the game that I am a fan of but don't consider them as great rank up options.
  • Eric987Eric987 Member Posts: 78 ★
    Worknprogress said:

    Cliffordcan said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Cliffordcan said:

    What is this Blade slander??? I understand he is not the best champ in the game anymore, but he is still one of the cheapest. Yes, you won’t use him in every path of Act 6. But he is useful there, and all content below that (minus V2 and V3).

    He is still 3rd best Skill champ behind Ægon and NF, IMHO.

    Yes, top players won’t have much use for him, but for everyone not running Map 7 and still have a lot of story content to complete, you can’t go wrong with Blade.

    Ghost or quake are cheaper than Blade if you can use them and they both work for end game content. Taking zero damage the entire fight > having to block to regen damage you've taken. Blade is just easier to use
    I don’t disagree with that statement. I’m just not sure why you are making it since they are the best 2 champs in the game, so that is a true comparison of any other champ along with Blade. Not exactly intelligent or obscure or even helpful. But this is the internet, so I guess you are free to type whatever you want.
    You used survivability/cheapness as a reasoning for Blade still being a top champ. I listed two champs that are better at that and also still excel in late game content.

    For the hundredth time, yes I'm sure that players that have Blade raked up for a long time can still utilize him today effectively in some situations, I just don't think it's right to sell him as a TOP option for a new rankup anymore is all. He doesn't even get close to a top 10 and more than likely top 20 list of champs in game at the moment. Sure he may be around the 3rd best skill champ but outside aegon and fury, skill is really weak
    You speak as if everyone has every champ available. For example, I still have no aegon, NF, Corvus, ghost, namor, and many other good champs yet I’ve completed everything but exploration of 6.2 and 6.3. Everyone should look at their roster and what content they still haven’t completed and make an educated decision based on whether a champ will help them further progress. I took Colossus to r5 because I’ve used him for havok boss in 6.3.3 (run 5 of 6 paths so far, haven’t take that mysterio path yet with acid wash) and I know he’s definitely not a top 10 or 20 champ which seems to be your criteria for taking a champ r5.
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