I think it works more like this. Let's say there is the cosmic control rod and 1 stagger active on annihilus. Then later annihilus activates unstoppable. Instead of the stagger removing the unstoppable, the cosmic control rod is removed in its place.
I think it works more like this. Let's say there is the cosmic control rod and 1 stagger active on annihilus. Then later annihilus activates unstoppable. Instead of the stagger removing the unstoppable, the cosmic control rod is removed in its place. That’s not what Annihilus’ ability says. You are creating your own ability description. If what you’re saying is true, then Annihilus should start the fight with a stagger effect AND the cosmic control rod against Symbiote Supreme, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t start the fight with either of them because the stagger gets purified and the control rod gets removed. Just like his abilities say. See screen shots of the first few seconds of the fight.
True it's a bit different, but the rod description clearly says whenever a stagger is placed on him it immediately gets removed, in contrast to the normal, opposite action of stagger.
I think it works more like this. Let's say there is the cosmic control rod and 1 stagger active on annihilus. Then later annihilus activates unstoppable. Instead of the stagger removing the unstoppable, the cosmic control rod is removed in its place. That’s not what Annihilus’ ability says. You are creating your own ability description. If what you’re saying is true, then Annihilus should start the fight with a stagger effect AND the cosmic control rod against Symbiote Supreme, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t start the fight with either of them because the stagger gets purified and the control rod gets removed. Just like his abilities say. See screen shots of the first few seconds of the fight. Its a bit different with symbiote supreme because symbiote supreme's chthon's cunning will immediately nullify the cosmic rod at the beginning of the battle.
I think it works more like this. Let's say there is the cosmic control rod and 1 stagger active on annihilus. Then later annihilus activates unstoppable. Instead of the stagger removing the unstoppable, the cosmic control rod is removed in its place. That’s not what Annihilus’ ability says. You are creating your own ability description. If what you’re saying is true, then Annihilus should start the fight with a stagger effect AND the cosmic control rod against Symbiote Supreme, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t start the fight with either of them because the stagger gets purified and the control rod gets removed. Just like his abilities say. See screen shots of the first few seconds of the fight. Its a bit different with symbiote supreme because symbiote supreme's chthon's cunning will immediately nullify the cosmic rod at the beginning of the battle. I know what you mean by this, but actually it wouldn’t be any different due to Annihilus’ ability description. Even the nullify would get purified so it wouldn’t “nullify” the control rod buff but rather just remove it due to Annihilius’ ability. The interaction should be identical for a nullify effect AND a stagger effect, as well as any fate seal effects.
It is whenever the stagger is ACTIVATED. the stagger is activated when a debuff appears after the stagger is on the champion. Placing the stagger on the champion is not activating it.
It is whenever the stagger is ACTIVATED. the stagger is activated when a debuff appears after the stagger is on the champion. Placing the stagger on the champion is not activating it. A stagger is a delayed nullify. Therefore the “stagger” effect is “activated” as soon as it’s placed. The nullify portion of the stagger is activated when a buff is gained and nullified by the stagger. You are mixing up the two.
It is whenever the stagger is ACTIVATED. the stagger is activated when a debuff appears after the stagger is on the champion. Placing the stagger on the champion is not activating it. A stagger is a delayed nullify. Therefore the “stagger” effect is “activated” as soon as it’s placed. The nullify portion of the stagger is activated when a buff is gained and nullified by the stagger. You are mixing up the two. No, it is activated as soon as it strips a debuff. The nullify is the activation. You are confusing what "activate" means.
It is whenever the stagger is ACTIVATED. the stagger is activated when a debuff appears after the stagger is on the champion. Placing the stagger on the champion is not activating it. A stagger is a delayed nullify. Therefore the “stagger” effect is “activated” as soon as it’s placed. The nullify portion of the stagger is activated when a buff is gained and nullified by the stagger. You are mixing up the two. No, it is activated as soon as it strips a debuff. The nullify is the activation. You are confusing what "activate" means. This is incorrect.
You are arguing semantics at this point. A stagger does not have to nullify anything in order to be a stagger. Having an “active” stagger effect means the next buff will be nullified, but if no buff is nullified that doesn’t mean there was no active stagger.
Ignore him, you are correct about the stagger.
Yea you’re missing the point here as always. I said they should all act the same with regards to Annihilus’ ability description. As in, they should all cause the same effect. However, they are very different abilities as a stagger can be activated without ever nullifying anything.
Oh man, take the win! I said the original spotlight brah. Not his in game description.