So what happened to game balance?

Why are these rewards better than 100% act 6 gives out already
50% of a T5CC is huge
Why progress in the game when you can just buy it not to mention all the stuff you already get if you do trade GGC
This also defeats the purpose of having titled based rewards

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shadow_lurker22

Why are these rewards better than 100% act 6 gives out already
50% of a T5CC is huge
Why progress in the game when you can just buy it not to mention all the stuff you already get if you do trade GGC
This also defeats the purpose of having titled based rewards

Because 💲💲

Gamer

I’m kind felling every year ther break the balcone somhow I’m only happy to ikow the game wil stay a bit longer

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StevieManWonder

I'm pretty irritated by this too, to be honest. There is no skill involved for this and the reward is literally the most valued and rare item in the game right now. It's not just unfair, it's immoral. I get that they need to make money since it is a free to play game, but this is absurd. They could have made it a r1-r2 6 star rank up gem and it still would have earned them money, this is just unfair.

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Mcord11758

There is no semblance of balance with rank materials in today’s game. You do not need to play content anymore just buy deals and now apparently participate in gifting. Content has become meaningless to progression

Snizzbar

Here's your game balance here: 💰⚖️💰

Myradral

So I spend hours and units trying to finish Uncollected Event Quest each month.

And now some clown buys ONE GGC and gets 10,000 6-Star Shards?

Oh yeah............ BALANCE.

Kerneas

Depends what you see as game balance. Don't forget how many players get this amazing reward. 30? Idk, I haven't opened the game just to give precise numbers, but my point is that this gives the edge to very small amount of players from the top tier alliances, and let's face it, the top tier is only about spending money. Those who spent either little or no money at all aren't affected by this at all. And for whales this is just an opportunity to invest money into this game. It doesn't seem too broken, but I gotta admit this reward could be a game changer for a lot of people

GroundedWisdom

Let's be honest, for the amount they'll be spending to get that Rank, they've paid for it. Lol.

B33fSupr3m3

Depends what you see as game balance. Don't forget how many players get this amazing reward. 30? Idk, I haven't opened the game just to give precise numbers, but my point is that this gives the edge to very small amount of players from the top tier alliances, and let's face it, the top tier is only about spending money. Those who spent either little or no money at all aren't affected by this at all. And for whales this is just an opportunity to invest money into this game. It doesn't seem too broken, but I gotta admit this reward could be a game changer for a lot of people

This is a very good point. It is only game breaking for alliances battling for the top spot right now. If you are not in a top 5 alliance then it is not going to make any difference to you. If you are in a top 5 alliance you are probably a big spender or at least have a lot of big spenders in your alliance. Its really not going to affect 99.99999% of the player base at all. If anything it benefits everyone that doesn't spend because it is events like these that make sure the game will keep running for a long time.

StevieManWonder

@B33fSupr3m3 True, I didn't think of that. The people who get the top three are already at the top of the game anyways, it's not like any has a chance of catching up to them without spending hundreds of thousands.

ESF

Depends what you see as game balance. Don't forget how many players get this amazing reward. 30? Idk, I haven't opened the game just to give precise numbers, but my point is that this gives the edge to very small amount of players from the top tier alliances, and let's face it, the top tier is only about spending money. Those who spent either little or no money at all aren't affected by this at all. And for whales this is just an opportunity to invest money into this game. It doesn't seem too broken, but I gotta admit this reward could be a game changer for a lot of people
This is a very good point. It is only game breaking for alliances battling for the top spot right now. If you are not in a top 5 alliance then it is not going to make any difference to you. If you are in a top 5 alliance you are probably a big spender or at least have a lot of big spenders in your alliance. Its really not going to affect 99.99999% of the player base at all. If anything it benefits everyone that doesn't spend because it is events like these that make sure the game will keep running for a long time.

People don't like this bit of truth, though. They want to believe that this game and life is fair, but fair is relative to the concept being discussed

F2P might not want to hear it, but "fair" to Kabam and business does not mean "equal access to every commodity in the game"

It just doesn't. Just the truth of things, in this game and in life

Tehsigzorz

Dont want kabam to tell me anything about economy now lmao

Panchulon21

People don’t get to get those rewards you gotta shell the F out. So if you’re willing to do that then complain but if you’re not then stop complaining.

DNA3000

Rich get richer and everyone with no money to spend on mcoc suffers

The rich spend money on a game that the poor get to play completely for free. So while the rich get more stuff in the game than the poor, the poor get to play without spending any money. The whole idea of the F2P concept is that this is a fair trade. And to be blunt, the reason why it works so well is because the spenders generally like it and the players playing games completely for free generally like it. It is only a tiny, albeit vocal minority of game players that have a problem with it. And even they mostly continue to play the games that follow the model.

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DNA3000

@DNA3000 my problem is that no amount of grinding will ever get me those rewards. For example, I am working on act 6.3 100% now. These rewards are 5x better, and are given out based on money spent and not skill level or time invested.

Technically, that's not true. You're looking for a single individual thing that generates the same exact reward, and there's no such thing. But eventually, I'm certain just plain old game play is going to get me that reward, and more. It will just take time.

You can't compare completing Act 6.3 directly with spending the (probably) tens of thousands of dollars the top gifting rewards will likely take. That is an apples to lizards comparison. The top prize for the gifting event requires a lot of spending on a lot of different transactions.

The simple fact is that this game is a free to play game, and in free to play games there's always going to be three sources of game resources: gameplay (grinding, skillful play), spending (directly on offers or indirectly such as through events like this), and baseline rewards (such as the calendar, that don't specifically require a lot of gameplay or spending). There will always be rewards given out "based on money spent." Sometimes those are cash offers, and sometimes they are events like this. Those rewards fuel the spending that allows us to have a game at all.

Whether those rewards are too high or too low is not a simple question to answer. On the one hand, people constantly complain about the cash offers in the store being "cash grabs" in that they contain not enough value for cash. But that's tantamount to saying that cash should generate more rewards, and is the opposite complaint from saying the gifting event is giving out too much rewards, which is tantamount to saying that cash should generate less rewards.

A hundred bucks gets us an Odin. We saw what a couple Odins can get us on Black Friday. What should several hundred Odins get us during the gifting event?

One argument seems to be that the gifting event could still be successful if the rewards were lower. But that is a very simplistic (and not necessarily even accurate) point of view. I've seen profitable games shut down. The game operators don't have to start losing money to decide a game is no longer worth investing in or even operating. They can simply decide that other newer opportunities are better. If Kabam designed cash offers and events like this to "break even" or even "turn a little profit" they could be setting the stage for the game's demise, because "just good enough" might not be good enough to their corporate overlords. Kabam doesn't control their own destiny. They are accountable to Netmarble, who paid $800 million dollars for them and will be constantly trying to make a return on that investment.

As @Kerneas correctly points out, the alliances fighting over these rewards by in large do not affect the vast overwhelming number of alliances and players. 99.99% of us will never see them, never encounter them in-game, never compete directly against them. They are almost playing a different game. And while they all compete to set the largest pile of cash on fire, the rest of us benefit from the warmth. And all they are getting for it is something I have no doubt in my mind I will eventually get myself in a year or so. They aren't really buying things, they are actually buying time. Time I will eventually catch up with. In exchange for keeping the game alive and funded, I don't mind giving them that head start.

Today I am about as strong as the blubberiest and most skilled whales from a year ago, and stronger than any player was two years ago. That's probably going to be true next year, and the year after that. They don't get things I don't get. They just get them earlier.

RagamugginGunner

Can't add a 5* basic arena, it would totally ruin the economy of the game. PS. please buy Caves and GGCs. #KabamLogic

ChriissR

It really only affects alliance in Master AW or top 10 AQ. I guaranteed everyone here complaining is in neither of those. It really isnt even that bad. 95% of MCOC community wont even have a 6* Rank 3 until mid - end of 2020.

ESF

@DNA3000 : I say it a lot: The folks at the top are absolutely not playing the same game I am, and I don't mind spending if I want something

People could really benefit from understanding the three tiers you listed. I know some won't listen, but it is the truth

Snizzbar

All I want is a way to get the same rewards but without spending the time or money. Or breaking the law too I guess.

Neonoctis

brian grant....

Neonoctis

by far one of the absolute best players in the game. in a top tier alliance. sick roster.... spends no money on the game. so please keep complaining about how it's not fair.

RagamugginGunner

by far one of the absolute best players in the game. in a top tier alliance. sick roster.... spends no money on the game. so please keep complaining about how it's not fair.

BG is the exception that proves the rule.

Bugmat78

No issue with it myself - whales gonna whale, and keep the game floating. Much more issue with the $100 "deal" yesterday for FIVE YEARS, than the tier 5 cataltyst elector in the top rank award for gifting.

SknZn

As you see, only rich will get richer, and poor stays poor.

BowTieJohn

Maybe the proceeds from this event will buy a gold scale in which the balance of the game will be weighed in.

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