Revision of Seatin's Tier List - Player input required!

@Seatin released a new video on the updated tier list for January 2020. You can watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_uRsOgSvHc

Now, this is not the new part. The new part is that @Seatin is going to revise the tier list the coming months.

This is important as so many players base their decisions on this list: whether to rank-up a certain champion, use a certain champion, etc. It trickles down in so many aspects of this game. @Seatin's list is, as far as my knowledge, the only regularly updated list and thus the reference for everyone. For new players, terminology like god tier comes directly from @Seatin's tier list.

But @Seatin can't do this on his own. He asks for us, the players, for help. Which champions do you think are overrated? Which champions do you think are underrated? Or how can the tier list be improved?

So help @Seatin and either post your improvements in the comment section of the YouTube video, or here in this thread.

Comments

Rulllor

Who?

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GinjabredMonsta

Love my Duped sig 200 5/65 Hyperion x

Ok?

FRITO_Man

is GR considered overrated?

Stewman

Was it really necessary to tag him 500 times in the same post?

Saiyan

Who?

Starlord man, the legendary outlaw?

Colonaut123

I believe Doctor Strange is underrated. Him sitting next to Ebony Maw seems ridiculous as he has still good utility: health steal, armor break, armor up, buff nullify, fury, power gain, etc. With his awakened ability and his synergy with CAIW and Symbiote Supreme gives him so much extra damage in buff-heavy fights. He should be bumped to at least pretty useful tier.

Storm has been underrated as well. With her awakened ability, her damage of her SP2 can be insane. She can hit as high as CAIW when the opponent has 2 bars or more without needing to ramp up or anything. Speaking of CAIW: he has a synergy with her that increases special attack damage by 20%! There are a lot more synergies that makes optimal use of that (mutant advancement comes to mind) or bumps her ability accuracy (Sunspot and Cable). I consider her low demigod, but not higher than that.

Another surprising one is Green Goblin. I'm going to be speculative here, but I think this champion is like a Doc Ock 2.0., meaning you need a specific play-style and skill to keep his madness and cunning charges at a good balance to get maximum benefit. With his sig at a high sig level and the right synergies (Venom, a Spider-Verse champion), he can be pretty good. He certainly stacks up a lot of debuffs, including poison, working very well with the despair mastery. Pretty useful tier I would say, low demigod might push it too much.

Kingpin is like Ronan: if you get inflicted by non-damaging debuffs, he can convert it to rage and smash the defender to pieces. Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Mr Fantastic: just some match-ups this year that people had surprising good performances for him. His synergy with The Hood, a decent champion certainly with Ghost, makes that rage conversion chance to go up even higher. He also get rage when a champion evades his attacks, which is okay I guess. Pretty useful to low demigod I think.

I think Yondu is underappreciated. He can bleed, he can armor break when bleed immune (IMIW, Colossus!), his yaka arrows are non-contact (Korg!), he has some power control (-10% less power gain per debuff), he can remove armor up buffs (Red Skull) or has armor & block penetration, heal block and extra SP2 damage the longer the fight. So he has some stuff in his toolbox that makes him quite useful and it is not fair he is at the same spot as Punisher 2099 or RR.

Phoenix is another one. I don't think she needs any explanation. Same thing with Killmonger (how dare you @Seatin!). His synergies with Void, WS and ST are just insane. Really underappreciated!

Colonaut123

Was it really necessary to tag him 500 times in the same post?

He only get one notification, so why not?

Rulllor

Are you seating by any chance? This is some good promo btw. Made me watch the video and I pretty much agree with your list

Colonaut123

Are you seating by any chance? This is some good promo btw. Made me watch the video and I pretty much agree with your list

And that's why I tagged him six times 😂😂😂

But thanks for the endorsement, those little (wo)men need more love.

Thi101

I’d also promote Spider-Gwen to God Tier, as she has so much going on for her:

Against Unblockable special attacks, her evade chances are above 500%, which is enough to bypass pretty much all AAR in the game.

She has slow debuff, making her one of the best counters to evade and Unstoppable champs (like Thing, Nightcrawler and even herself)

Her damage output is great (specially if you’re using the “Gwenom Rising” synergy) and can be enhanced by stacking charges with her SP1

While playing as her, I really feel she has an above average crit rating (but this might be just my impression)

After a SP3 she causes extra direct damage with every hit for a period of time, making her a good option for safeguard and other damage cap nodes and abilities.

Her power control on SP1 and SP2 is pretty nice and very useful when bating specials, as the opponent’s meter won’t charge any further if they are suffering from Enervate.

She has evasive abilities that can be as high as 35% (w/o Gwenom Rising) or 21% (i guess, with Gwenom Rising).

And she is the only evade champ (that I know) that will not attempt to evade while blocking, which really helps out if you want to parry something.

Thx for coming to my TED talk

Colonaut123

I’d also promote Spider-Gwen to God Tier, as she has so much going on for her:

Against Unblockable special attacks, her evade chances are above 500%, which is enough to bypass pretty much all AAR in the game.

She has slow debuff, making her one of the best counters to evade and Unstoppable champs (like Thing, Nightcrawler and even herself)

Her damage output is great (specially if you’re using the “Gwenom Rising” synergy) and can be enhanced by stacking charges with her SP1

While playing as her, I really feel she has an above average crit rating (but this might be just my impression)

After a SP3 she causes extra direct damage with every hit for a period of time, making her a good option for safeguard and other damage cap nodes and abilities.

Her power control on SP1 and SP2 is pretty nice and very useful when bating specials, as the opponent’s meter won’t charge any further if they are suffering from Enervate.

She has evasive abilities that can be as high as 35% (w/o Gwenom Rising) or 21% (i guess, with Gwenom Rising).

And she is the only evade champ (that I know) that will not attempt to evade while blocking, which really helps out if you want to parry something.

Thx for coming to my TED talk

I think I saw your comment on the YouTube video as well. I definitely agree with Spider-Gwen. Any champion that is MVP for both Maestro and The Collector is a god tier champion in my book.

Thi101

I’d also promote Spider-Gwen to God Tier, as she has so much going on for her:

Against Unblockable special attacks, her evade chances are above 500%, which is enough to bypass pretty much all AAR in the game.

She has slow debuff, making her one of the best counters to evade and Unstoppable champs (like Thing, Nightcrawler and even herself)

Her damage output is great (specially if you’re using the “Gwenom Rising” synergy) and can be enhanced by stacking charges with her SP1

While playing as her, I really feel she has an above average crit rating (but this might be just my impression)

After a SP3 she causes extra direct damage with every hit for a period of time, making her a good option for safeguard and other damage cap nodes and abilities.

Her power control on SP1 and SP2 is pretty nice and very useful when bating specials, as the opponent’s meter won’t charge any further if they are suffering from Enervate.

She has evasive abilities that can be as high as 35% (w/o Gwenom Rising) or 21% (i guess, with Gwenom Rising).

And she is the only evade champ (that I know) that will not attempt to evade while blocking, which really helps out if you want to parry something.

Thx for coming to my TED talk
I think I saw your comment on the YouTube video as well. I definitely agree with Spider-Gwen. Any champion that is MVP for both Maestro and The Collector is a god tier champion in my book.

Yeah, that was me

And I agree with one of the Replies on it. She will probably be a top tier choice for the Grandmaster as well

LordRaymond3

You seem very attached to Mr. Willis... as mentioned above this seems like very over the top promotion

Colonaut123

You seem very attached to Mr. Willis... as mentioned above this seems like very over the top promotion

It is a joke. Jeez just stay on topic.

DOKTOROKTOPUS

just a list why the big deal? do you love him in secret?

Colonaut123

just a list why the big deal? do you love him in secret?

I'm just going to ignore that ignorant remark.

Buttehrs

Tier lists are useless and for sheep. Just do what makes you happy. fight the power.

Patchie93

Personally i like legacy's newest tier list

Colonaut123

Personally i like legacy's newest tier list

Problem with other YT'ers that they don't regularly update their tier list. Lagacy made a new one after more than half a year.

BowTieJohn

Personally i like legacy's newest tier list

Is it on his YouTube page?

Colonaut123

Personally i like legacy's newest tier list
Problem with other YT'ers that they don't regularly update their tier list. Lagacy made a new one after more than half a year.

That being said, his tier list makes me raise my eyebrows. Dr. Strange and Man-Thing as good as Ghost Rider? Guillotine as bad as Diablo? Vision AOU as good as Rocket Raccoon? Dormammu as good as Loki? Medusa is not omni tier? OG Daredevil as good as Gwenpool and Night Thrasher? They are too many questionable champion places to make Lagacy's list on par with Seatin's.

Colonaut123

Personally i like legacy's newest tier list
Is it on his YouTube page?

Yep, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6aDDQtmHAI

Epistriatus

Just.........nvm........🤦‍♂️

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ECOMA

Seatin is over rated do what you like dont follow others

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