Is Kabam doctoring the drop rates of good champions?

I don't know how the game is treating you guys but judging from my roster which is quite comprehensive i formed the opinion that Kabam is lowering the drop rate of got tier champions from the 6 star crystals . I have so far 53 6 star champions while the base pool has 106 i believe and while i get **** champion like daredevil cyclops mordo storm kingpin etc duped multiple times each i never seen a god tier champ from the basic 6 star crystals so no Corvus Domino Void Cap IW Ghost to name some of the oldest .My only decent pulls where from the featured cavalier and they are all new/featured champs like dr doom , claire or nick . Only last month i opened 12 or more 6 star crystals getting only dupes and memes so please share your experience and if any moderator from Kabam is here i would like to see a distribution chart for 6 star in the accounts to prove the chances are equal which i higly doubted

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Nah01

I don't know how the game is treating you guys but judging from my roster which is quite comprehensive i formed the opinion that Kabam is lowering the drop rate of got tier champions from the 6 star crystals . I have so far 53 6 star champions while the base pool has 106 i believe and while i get **** champion like daredevil cyclops mordo storm kingpin etc duped multiple times each i never seen a god tier champ from the basic 6 star crystals so no Corvus Domino Void Cap IW Ghost to name some of the oldest .My only decent pulls where from the featured cavalier and they are all new/featured champs like dr doom , claire or nick . Only last month i opened 12 or more 6 star crystals getting only dupes and memes so please share your experience and if any moderator from Kabam is here i would like to see a distribution chart for 6 star in the accounts to prove the chances are equal which i higly doubted

That's how I see it too. Kabam is manipulating the drop rate of 6*.

Snaapjack

My three friends and I have been playing 3 years.
Collectively 1 corvus and 0 dominos. 0 natural blades (2 from featured blade crystals)
We also have 16 hulkbuster pulls, 9 capt marvel original, 7 Mrs Marvel.
I am a firm believer in statistics. So I know anything can happen but I do genuinely believe they decrease the pull rate on some champs.

solopolo

My three friends and I have been playing 3 years.
Collectively 1 corvus and 0 dominos. 0 natural blades (2 from featured blade crystals)
We also have 16 hulkbuster pulls, 9 capt marvel original, 7 Mrs Marvel.
I am a firm believer in statistics. So I know anything can happen but I do genuinely believe they decrease the pull rate on some champs.

You can't really make assumptions off a handful of champions though. Post your entire rosters then we can talk.

GinjabredMonsta

I don't know how the game is treating you guys but judging from my roster which is quite comprehensive i formed the opinion that Kabam is lowering the drop rate of got tier champions from the 6 star crystals . I have so far 53 6 star champions while the base pool has 106 i believe and while i get **** champion like daredevil cyclops mordo storm kingpin etc duped multiple times each i never seen a god tier champ from the basic 6 star crystals so no Corvus Domino Void Cap IW Ghost to name some of the oldest .My only decent pulls where from the featured cavalier and they are all new/featured champs like dr doom , claire or nick . Only last month i opened 12 or more 6 star crystals getting only dupes and memes so please share your experience and if any moderator from Kabam is here i would like to see a distribution chart for 6 star in the accounts to prove the chances are equal which i higly doubted

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arsjum

My 6* pulls so far (all from basic crystals):
1. heimdal
2. imiw
3. aegon
4. aegon
5. cap iw
6. jane foster
7. doctor strange

I disagree with whatever you're trying to say.

I was expecting a more forceful rebuttal from you, you are being very diplomatic. A little disappointing.

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DarthPhal

I know how you feel. There’s a local radio station that plays about 100 songs and I only like 5 of them.

95% of the time it seems like there’s a conspiracy to play songs I don’t want to hear.

TheInfinty

I’ve had highs and lows when the high was a insane high of a namor the lows were awful in beast and Diablo it’s all RNG kabam doesn’t rig the crystals what you are going to get is predetermined before you open the crystal and the reel they have said multiple times is just for entertainment

Nyale

I never said people don't get lucky and pull a Corvus like from their first pull but my theory is the chance to pull Daredevil which is completely useless in any rarity is like 5 to 1 that's why i'm asking for Kabam statistics which i'm sure they keep

Maverick75

To see the distribution of 6* champions, especially by month, would be interesting. To be transparent is positive when there is nothing to hide.

But nobody from kabam will explicitly admit that there is anything else than random in basic crystals openings. Believe this position or not, at least it is the easiest answer to all septics.
But for example it could be random among a shortest batch for a period...

Last week I opened 2 6* basic crystals on different days and got Daredevil then Blackbolt. Less appreciated after Sabertooth, Masacre, Cap Marvel movie and Annihilus.

Just for fun : 3 years ago I opened a 4* Spider Gwen and another one the day after. Curiously the only 2 players that opened a 4* between my openings got... Spider Gwen. I let you guess the probability it happens.

Demonzfyre

I don't know how the game is treating you guys but judging from my roster which is quite comprehensive i formed the opinion that Kabam is lowering the drop rate of got tier champions from the 6 star crystals . I have so far 53 6 star champions while the base pool has 106 i believe and while i get **** champion like daredevil cyclops mordo storm kingpin etc duped multiple times each i never seen a god tier champ from the basic 6 star crystals so no Corvus Domino Void Cap IW Ghost to name some of the oldest .My only decent pulls where from the featured cavalier and they are all new/featured champs like dr doom , claire or nick . Only last month i opened 12 or more 6 star crystals getting only dupes and memes so please share your experience and if any moderator from Kabam is here i would like to see a distribution chart for 6 star in the accounts to prove the chances are equal which i higly doubted

Classic case of confirmation bias. You have a very narrow view of overall pulls. On top of it all, you are complaining about "bad" pulls when you've pulled Dr Doom, Claire Voyant and even Nick Fury.

You say the basic pool has 106 champs in it. How many of those would you actually want to pull? 15 tops? Thats roughly a 14% chance to pull a champ you want or a 86% chance to pull a champion you don't want. There are far more champs you don't want so of course you have a higher chance of being disappointed.

I've pulled 29 overall 6*'s-

I've been very lucky to dupe Wasp, The Champion, Symbiote Supreme and Hawkeye. Point is, everyone has a different experience. You've pulled good 6*'s so enjoy them. There are people out there with way worse pulls that you. The drop rates aren't different for desirable champions. In the basic pool they are equal for every champ in it.

Demonzfyre

My three friends and I have been playing 3 years.
Collectively 1 corvus and 0 dominos. 0 natural blades (2 from featured blade crystals)
We also have 16 hulkbuster pulls, 9 capt marvel original, 7 Mrs Marvel.
I am a firm believer in statistics. So I know anything can happen but I do genuinely believe they decrease the pull rate on some champs.

One of the Top 10 most ridiculous things I've read this week.

Darkness275

I get that this is an easy conspiracy to fall in to - but the only drop rate the crystal has is 100% at a 6*.

As far as I know, that's never not happened.

You're suggesting variance within the crystal itself, that it's weighted to give us champions we find less desirable. I don't think that's true either. We obviously direct a majority of our negative focus on our bad pulls and tend to ignore the good ones after a while.

For my awoken Green Goblin or Rhino, I've also awoken my 6* Sentinel and IWIM.
For my Moon Knight and Magneto I've also pulled IWCap and Corvus.

It's confirmation bias, that's all. Look at how many people are in the 6* pool and then actually weigh out the statistics - everyone has the same chance at being pulled. BUT there are not an equal number of good characters and bad characters, so yes, you have a higher chance of pulling an undesirable character than you do a God, but not because those characters are weighted differently - you have a higher chance because there are more of them.

Mr_Wiff

I don't know how the game is treating you guys but judging from my roster which is quite comprehensive i formed the opinion that Kabam is lowering the drop rate of got tier champions from the 6 star crystals . I have so far 53 6 star champions while the base pool has 106 i believe and while i get **** champion like daredevil cyclops mordo storm kingpin etc duped multiple times each i never seen a god tier champ from the basic 6 star crystals so no Corvus Domino Void Cap IW Ghost to name some of the oldest .My only decent pulls where from the featured cavalier and they are all new/featured champs like dr doom , claire or nick . Only last month i opened 12 or more 6 star crystals getting only dupes and memes so please share your experience and if any moderator from Kabam is here i would like to see a distribution chart for 6 star in the accounts to prove the chances are equal which i higly doubted
Classic case of confirmation bias. You have a very narrow view of overall pulls. On top of it all, you are complaining about "bad" pulls when you've pulled Dr Doom, Claire Voyant and even Nick Fury.

You say the basic pool has 106 champs in it. How many of those would you actually want to pull? 15 tops? Thats roughly a 14% chance to pull a champ you want or a 86% chance to pull a champion you don't want. There are far more champs you don't want so of course you have a higher chance of being disappointed.

I've pulled 29 overall 6*'s-

I've been very lucky to dupe Wasp, The Champion, Symbiote Supreme and Hawkeye. Point is, everyone has a different experience. You've pulled good 6*'s so enjoy them. There are people out there with way worse pulls that you. The drop rates aren't different for desirable champions. In the basic pool they are equal for every champ in it.

Exactly it's RNG my 6* Roster consists (in order of pulling them): Nick Fury, Symbiote Supreme, Namor and Guillotine. I consider myself very lucky but I don't think Kabam can/could rig crystals otherwise why me? I don't spend no incentive to reward me. All just lucky with the numbers.

Though if they do rig crystals can I dupe Symb next please Kabam XDXDXDXD

Nyale

Demonzfyre read more attentively please , the only r2 champs i got Nick Doom and Claire are all unduped and pulled from countless featured cavalier , opened at least 70 6 star crystals so far and the best that i have are rulk sentinel ,doc ock and venom and 45 memes that's statistically impropable

Lvernon15

Demonzfyre read more attentively please , the only r2 champs i got Nick Doom and Claire are all unduped and pulled from countless featured cavalier , opened at least 70 6 star crystals so far and the best that i have are rulk sentinel ,doc ock and venom and 45 memes that's statistically impropable

Improbable, not impossible

CaptainPoll

Its a simple game of probabality, there are around 30 so called god tiers amongst almost 100 champs so the probabilty of geting a god tier is aroung 0.3out of 1or 30% which is not very high

SheDroveMeHere

My 1st and only 6* is a sunspot....so I'm not sure about that.

CoatHang3r

But are you using the Pep method? If not it’s your fault. 😂

P.S. Hypothetically, if given the distribution chart wouldn’t they doctor that also? It’s a BS question.

solopolo

Demonzfyre read more attentively please , the only r2 champs i got Nick Doom and Claire are all unduped and pulled from countless featured cavalier , opened at least 70 6 star crystals so far and the best that i have are rulk sentinel ,doc ock and venom and 45 memes that's statistically impropable

Post your roster.

GinjabredMonsta

But are you using the Pep method? If not it’s your fault. 😂

P.S. Hypothetically, if given the distribution chart wouldn’t they doctor that also? It’s a BS question.

That's what I was thinking too. Even if they did show us this, conspiracy theorists and tin foils will still say that it is fake and would want even more confirmation of them being right.

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Demonzfyre

Demonzfyre read more attentively please , the only r2 champs i got Nick Doom and Claire are all unduped and pulled from countless featured cavalier , opened at least 70 6 star crystals so far and the best that i have are rulk sentinel ,doc ock and venom and 45 memes that's statistically impropable

If it was statistically impossible.... how'd you pull it off? Oh because its not impossible, just a lesser percentage than what could be normal.

Kabam Zibiit

As we've mentioned multiple times in the past, the chance of receiving any Champions from a crystal is exactly the same chance as receiving any other Champion, unless the crystal in question specifies otherwise. We wouldn't want to do something like what has been proposed here and even if we did want to, every player is different and values Champions differently and we have no way of knowing which Champions an individual would value and desire more than another. I don't really see why one would want to implement a system like that, especially since it seems like it would be a lot more work than, say, just adding a new Champion to the pool and letting the chance of pulling every Champion in that pool be equal.