Why does Human Torch not get bleed from Morningstar but Sunspot does?

Pseudouber

Just wondering. . Arent they like the same attacks?

Worknprogress

I've never tested this to see if its actually the case but if it is, I assume Torch has energy non contact based attacks while sunspot still makes physical contact

Nojokejaym

Yah non contact

Pseudouber

It just says they are energy but I dont see where it says Sunspots are physical or is everything physical unless stated otherwise? I guess it is.

Feuerschwer

So energy/physical attacks are not the same thing as contact/non-contact. Most champs do physical damage with basic attacks, and almost all basic attacks make contact, though. Doctor Strange and Magneto, for example, do energy damage with their basic attacks, but still make contact. Yondu’s arrow attacks deal physical damage, but don’t make contact.

CoatHang3r

Your answer is in MS’s description, she bleeds on physical contact; HT is energy contact and Sunspot is physical contact.

Championcritic

Both sunspot and HT attacks make contact but HT is energy and sunspot is physical. As per morningstar ability, it's when she receives a physical contact hit then she can bleed back.

Colinwhitworth69

Good info.

Sarrey

HT do energy attact he dont touch bloodless hollow.
She will cause you bleed only of you tough that thing.

Pseudouber

So I guess my question is, is how do you know if its Physical or Energy? Sunspots attack seems like its the exact same attack lol. I know HT states it in the info that his hits are energy but so is Dr Strange and it doesnt say anything about it in the same info area.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Pseudouber said:

So I guess my question is, is how do you know if its Physical or Energy? Sunspots attack seems like its the exact same attack lol. I know HT states it in the info that his hits are energy but so is Dr Strange and it doesnt say anything about it in the same info area.

Some things like that you really need to learn while using them. Like for example, if you want to know whether is a physical or energy attack, you can duel a dup Ultron and find out. If you want to know if something is or not a projectile, you can duel a dup Daredevil and find out

RakeYoung

Can someone explain why Symbiote Supreme doesn’t take damage back from Psychic Thorns, but also doesn’t heal from it?

Where does Supremes hits land in terms of energy contact or non-contact?

CoatHang3r

RakeYoung said:

Can someone explain why Symbiote Supreme doesn’t take damage back from Psychic Thorns, but also doesn’t heal from it?

Where does Supremes hits land in terms of energy contact or non-contact?

The interaction with the node should give you your answer. He doesn’t take damage meaning it’s either energy or non contact but he doesn’t heal from it so that rules out non contact.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

RakeYoung said:

Can someone explain why Symbiote Supreme doesn’t take damage back from Psychic Thorns, but also doesn’t heal from it?

Where does Supremes hits land in terms of energy contact or non-contact?

That node is kinda weird to understand by the description, Don't remember if it is poorly described or if the first time I read it I was confused.

You won't take damage from energy attacks (you will take from physical attacks), and you will heal from projectile attacks. So you would want to use someone with both energy attacks and projectile attacks (it can be on special's), like Sym Supreme for example

Pseudouber

will-o-wisp said:

Pseudouber said:

So I guess my question is, is how do you know if its Physical or Energy? Sunspots attack seems like its the exact same attack lol. I know HT states it in the info that his hits are energy but so is Dr Strange and it doesnt say anything about it in the same info area.

Some things like that you really need to learn while using them. Like for example, if you want to know whether is a physical or energy attack, you can duel a dup Ultron and find out. If you want to know if something is or not a projectile, you can duel a dup Daredevil and find out

I think Kabam needs or should to be consistent and list it in the info as they did with HT.