Why 6.4 Rewards Look Dull

Legendary_Poey

Friend of mine pointed this out. Abyss 100% was intended to take much, much longer than it took people. This threw the game balance out of whack as many have 3 or 4 r3 6*s much sooner than kabam intended. They probably thought that people would 100% act 6 before they 100% abyss, but this did not happen. If this did happen then a t5cc and a 6* ag would have looked way more appealing to the player base. Because of abyss being 100%ed much faster than it was intended to it makes the Act 6 100% rewards pretty garbage.

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Lvernon15

Yeah, if they were released the other way round it wouldn’t be as bad, but people were relying on 6.4 (including myself) for a good chance at the t5cc we need, 1 random crystal just doesn’t cut it, especially for those in the prestige race

Strikerrx8

I know I need cct5

Bruce12342

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

Strikerrx8

Lvernon15

Bruce12342 said:

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

They said that, but for the effort put in chapter rewards really aren’t anything special

Bruce12342

Lvernon15 said:

Bruce12342 said:

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

They said that, but for the effort put in chapter rewards really aren’t anything special

Yeah, I wasn't commenting on the tier of rewards, just the fact that the specific Act rewards wouldn't be as juicy as many were hoping.

Legendary_Poey

I believe Miike said that 100% abyss was supposed to take months, might be wrong on that.

KobeLives

Bruce12342 said:

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

That was their way of saying they were going to sprinkle 600,000 T2a shards across the maps and SHAFT us majorly on real rewards. We've got Yellow Jackets to rank up so we can complete there new incoming interactive lanes.

Mcord11758

There is no significant sprinkling of rewards through the chapters. They can say it was spread out but if you take it all and add it up it still falls far short the effort and cost. dropping small piles of t2a on paths does not make up for it

DNA3000

Legendary_Poey said:

Friend of mine pointed this out. Abyss 100% was intended to take much, much longer than it took people. This threw the game balance out of whack as many have 3 or 4 r3 6*s much sooner than kabam intended. They probably thought that people would 100% act 6 before they 100% abyss, but this did not happen. If this did happen then a t5cc and a 6* ag would have looked way more appealing to the player base. Because of abyss being 100%ed much faster than it was intended to it makes the Act 6 100% rewards pretty garbage.

There's probably some truth to that. But it is also true that on the forums rewards come in two flavors: "garbage" and "awesome" and anything not higher than the last awesome is garbage. So that also suffers a bit of an Abyss effect even for players that haven't done it yet.

There's also the fact that these are end game rewards and not progressional rewards (at the moment, as there is no Act 7 yet). People tend to compare end game rewards to progressional rewards, and think that if anything end game rewards should always be superior in risk/reward to progressional rewards. In fact the design pressure flows in the opposite direction, but this takes an extremely cold, calculating perspective to appreciate.

Aleor

Abyss is very restricted in terms of champs you can use. I completed 6.3 without any significant effort, but just don't have champs to complete abyss, not even looking forward doing that. I still didn't explore lol, only one run done. The point is you need pretty specific roster for abyss, and a lot of players pull mostly trash champs, who have no use there

Mauled

Abyss does look better, though considering that it’s really tuned for R3 6*s it’s not actually that special, they just released it prematurely.

My main motive for exploration of Act 6 was the anticipated awakening crystal and generic I’d get out of it, I was optimistic that I’d get a single T5CC crystal from completion and a selector for exploration.

To compare the two pieces of content - AOL realistically, you only need Aegon to have a pretty easy run of the entire piece of content, which in its entirety is 5 paths against pretty simple (if long) fights. Yes all four of the ‘horsemen’ make it easier, but this is just to make it a gentle road.

Act 6, on the other hand, has 192 paths to go through with 10 runs through Crossbones, Sinister, Champion, 6 runs through Medusa, Havok and Cap as the standout annoyances for me. On top of this, we’re going to have 6 paths through all of 6.4’s bosses of which there’s going to be some that are definitely BS. On top of this there are various individual path fights that are very champion specific such as the buffed up SS in 6.1.6

Your champion requirements to go through all of this content is frankly incomparable. To get loosely favourable matchups in these pinch points you’re looking at massive fights each with few counters, of which there’s little overlap - 10-15 champs at R4+, ideally R5/R2.

I would expect that Act 6 rewards to actually be better than AOL because it requires a far deeper roster, greater time investment and far greater skill. Give me a blank cheque and a guy playing with his feet with eventually get through AoL, give that same person another blank cheque and I guarantee they’ll still be sat annoyed with the 6.2 Champion boss on 10% 10000 units later because it’s skill.

gp87

Strikerrx8 said:

Whats your opinion about omega red r2 duped ? Do you like him??

Timone147

The problem is Both when compared against previous acts and the roster people have who should be completing it there is way to much focus on r5 5* than on 6*.

The game is being throttles at our current progression spot and it’s starting to wear people down. No new progression level + low amount of rewards that matter on game for endgame don’t make the fact that this has some of those rewards feel better. People have been throttled for so long on progression outside of p2w the hope/need was that this would open that it.

This fails to open that up in any meaningful way.

KDoggg2017

Bruce12342 said:

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

But were they? 🤔

Cliffordcan

Bruce12342 said:

Interesting perspective. It may be so, but I do remember Kabam also mentioning a long time back that the Act rewards were going to be more spread out between the chapters, meaning the individual chapter rewards for Act 6 would be juicier and the Act rewards would be less so.

They failed miserably. Especially on 6.2. Rewards were not worth the effort. Was hoping that would get redeemed with full Act 6 rewards, but nope.

I think if they added about 25 2% T5C Crystals I would be happy. If they did 6* AG Crystal for completion and Generic for Exploration, I would be super pumped.

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