New Map 6 seems mean spirited?

mydnight

Just the placements and things, it appears to me that map 6 has become way more character specific and it's designed to kill you with unavoidable damage and annoying champs.

Dark Hawk and Kinetic Reactor. Domino unblockable s1 + 1 bar which makes her immediately lucky and u unlucky. Other champs placed to nerf regen champs like Blade.

I know these have counters, you don't need to tell me about them.

Just feels like it's totally trying to stop people from using champs pre-2019. It feels vindictive or mean spirited.

What do u guys think?

Kalantak

powergain 100% + backup recovery mephisto!!!

Mrspider568

All or nothing Hyperion and debuff immune

mydnight

Exactly. Why did they have to make the nodes so infuriating? Makes many folks old teams useless.

Gamer

I’m use Nick omega and covus and omega don’t do much covus stil great just harder to build him op

ChriissR

I actually enjoy the new variant compared to the other. Yes some annoying champs, but if you have assigned paths then it really isn't too bad.

mydnight

I'm on degen. Blade has been nerfed on it to where he can't really heal.

Str

New style to reduce charges for cg, in section 1 especially, is annoying.defo a lot harder than last map 6. Time to rank up some different god tiers to 5/65.

Spaddicted

I don't like the new map 6 and it's time for me to drop to map 4.

mydnight

Who r u guys using for degen?

PeaRat

mydnight said:

Who r u guys using for degen?

I haven’t ran the new map 6 variation but I used to use corvus with suicides in degen and I’d heal from it because of will power. Maybe still works idk.

AzKicker316

I guess it all depends on your path. I like the new champs on my nodes. I gain corvus charges quicker now and he is really the only champ I use now against everyone. I take degen, bio, starburst

Gamer

AzKicker316 said:

I guess it all depends on your path. I like the new champs on my nodes. I gain corvus charges quicker now and he is really the only champ I use now against everyone. I take degen, bio, starburst

I’m do almost the same aside from tier1 I’m take. The right side and only gain 1 change because team works and only gain the the few last one one the tier3 starburst so I’m stil use covus to. But definitely not only use him use him for most of it but use nick furv for IW

Str

I like how glory buys you a lot more, but the difficulty has been ramped up. Map 6 now requires people to have a better roster of specialise in just a few paths. Be nice for them to bump up the t2a and t5b in map 6/7 crystals. Previously map 6 was relatively easy on all paths, now champs and node placement mean much tougher without a high tanked counter.

Still enjoyable, but i can see it costing a few more resources for a lot of people.

mydnight

They ramped it up pointlessly. The rewards aren't worth it.

Evangelionlovr

I agree. I mean, I'm sure it just takes getting used to and eventually I'll be steamrolling it like I did the old map 6, but honestly for me AW is supposed to be the "challenging" ally game mode, AQ is more of a automatic thing at this point, it's kinda like doing a daily chore, and making the chore difficult is really annoying because I already don't like doing it every single day but now you throw curveballs at me to try and make me use items.

My paths in map 6 are C C B. Before corvus wrecked almost everything with a couple robots as backup in case I have a bad fight. Now, power gain Human Torch (with the Kinetic instigator global is just **** awful BTW), Stun immune Nick Fury. No Corvus charges on my paths till section 3 (there's a green goblin in sec 1 but my ally mates usually clear it due to time restrictions)

It's really really frustrating and an unnecessary change IMO.

Evangelionlovr

I will also add that in the past Regen has been one of the key things you need to have in AQ, but this new map has pushed it towards more specific counters for nodes, a lot of which don't have a reliable regen. It's like they're trying to get us to buy more pots now that they're changing to separate AW/AQ pots. @Kabam Miike You aren't clever. People are catching on to you trying to milk us.

Sundog100046

Very frustrating for sure

NinjaNate90

They should probably ease up on that debuff immune path. IW also needs some adjusting in her AI. Tenacity and invisible aren’t enough? You have to make her hold her block 30seconds straight at a time?

Gamer

NinjaNate90 said:

They should probably ease up on that debuff immune path. IW also needs some adjusting in her AI. Tenacity and invisible aren’t enough? You have to make her hold her block 30seconds straight at a time?

Nick furv slagter that figth

mydnight

I'd love for this thread to gain some traction.

Warlock just now. He 5 hit combos in the air running after me followed by a heavy.

And I had Mephisto that backed out of my intercept. Like I'm running in and he steps back as he's running forward. The AI feels like 6.4.

Map 6. This is only map 6....

Evangelionlovr

Jestress said:

I recognize its the first week of the new map, but I'm definitely getting bullied around by a lot of these matchups. 33K Nick Fury stun immune, 33K Void debuff immune... thats only section 2.

I forgot about that Void, god that fight was hell.

pseudosane

Yeah That Nick fury is really out of place. Really hard to play around every counter now. Such a pain to bring different champs ,plus plan for the mini boss. Map6 is becoming so much more stressful.

KnightZero

Mrspider568 said:

All or nothing Hyperion and debuff immune

There is an AoN Hyp? Where is that?

Gamer

BigPoppaCBONE said:

Gamer said:

NinjaNate90 said:

They should probably ease up on that debuff immune path. IW also needs some adjusting in her AI. Tenacity and invisible aren’t enough? You have to make her hold her block 30seconds straight at a time?

Nick furv slagter that figth

One fhtagn short of a Cthulhu there.

Kidding.

Still a tough fight for Fury depending on the global.

Jeps spictel delivers is the hardest mangers to do it today but run out of the change so was in risky of dying lucky one bleed stick so the I’m culd go in and end it. The first min I’m don’t kil nick the 3 I’m Hav to

KnightZero

That Sinister with Unblock Sp2 and 100% power gain sure is fun. Can't even use a proper Regen champ there unless you have danger sense. G99 on Starburst is fun too. Along with the Mephisto on Degen and pretty much the entire debuff immune lane in T2.

Panboh

Yes, the nodes are made to make you get unavoidable dmg but its just a starter, they are changing the AQ potions later next week, so you will have to buy health potions with units. Think this is the start of the end for FTP players.

TheTalents

The intent was to punish most of the map 6 guys that have been on cruise control for 2+ years.

I don't agree with it either but I'm not necessarily mad map 6 guys know how it feels to deal with map 7. Either way its still much easier than map 7 by comparison and when you guys get used to it in a couple weeks it'll be a breeze.

Mlee1829

mydnight said:

Who r u guys using for degen?

Of you use a champ that heals from suicides degen does almost no damage. Crovus and omega ideally. Same goes for starburst

TheTalents

Jestress said:

TheTalents said:

The intent was to punish most of the map 6 guys that have been on cruise control for 2+ years.

I don't agree with it either but I'm not necessarily mad map 6 guys know how it feels to deal with map 7. Either way its still much easier than map 7 by comparison and when you guys get used to it in a couple weeks it'll be a breeze.

if we wanted to play map 7 we'd play map 7. your comment doesn't make any sense with regards to the OP.

I don't know what OP stands for but I'm just telling you that majority of the end game players play map 6 so they needed to push you guys since you been in cruise control. I played map 6 because our BG messed up a couple months ago and it was laughable. R5 champions were way too strong for the old map 6 now it is a bit more balanced.

Mlee1829

TheTalents said:

Jestress said:

TheTalents said:

The intent was to punish most of the map 6 guys that have been on cruise control for 2+ years.

I don't agree with it either but I'm not necessarily mad map 6 guys know how it feels to deal with map 7. Either way its still much easier than map 7 by comparison and when you guys get used to it in a couple weeks it'll be a breeze.

if we wanted to play map 7 we'd play map 7. your comment doesn't make any sense with regards to the OP.

I don't know what OP stands for but I'm just telling you that majority of the end game players play map 6 so they needed to push you guys since you been in cruise control. I played map 6 because our BG messed up a couple months ago and it was laughable. R5 champions were way too strong for the old map 6 now it is a bit more balanced.

Its still laughable with r5 champs. Can still corvus almost every fight with suicides.