Estimated Units cost (First Abyss Run) ??

Is there anyone who had completed abyss can tell the estimated Units required to complete the first run??

My team:
Ægon 5/65 (Signature 180)
Symbiot Supreme 5/65 (Signature 20)
Morningstar 5/65 (Signature 100)
Void 5/65 (Signature 200)
NF 6* Rank2 (undupe)

I’m holding around 3000 units now with 20 revives in stash with some health pots.

Should i go for another 1000 units to be safe???

Comments

Viper83

You have a solid roster but it all come down to how skillful you are.

Horror_punk

You have a solid roster but it all come down to how skillful you are.

For Skill i can say i did 6.4 completion
All variants
Till 6.2 100%

Horror_punk

Further LOL 100% done already

Viper83

That being said, 3000 units should be good enough, but at the same time extra 1000 units wont hut, bit of safely net is always good to have.
If that fury was dupped boi boi!

Horror_punk

That being said, 3000 units should be good enough, but at the same time extra 1000 units wont hut, bit of safely net is always good to have.
If that fury was dupped boi boi!

Going for ranking him up only lol
Maybe an awakening or skill gem 🥶

Viper83

Good luck! Hope you get the gem for him.

Mirage_Turtle

@Horror_punk
You might struggle a bit on Invisible Woman if your Fury isn't duped. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't seen any videos of an unduped Fury taking her down. It's possible, but it may be a challenge.

Any chance you have a duped 5* Fury or a Rank 5 Killmonger?

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Mirage_Turtle

I would use KM if you have for IW, he makes the fight so normal... NF needs the Dupe but goodluck!

Regards,
Supreme Leader x

This was my tactic as well as I don't have a duped Nick Fury. I used KM for the Invisible Woman fight. It took me 6 revives to get her down, but that was back when she was bugged and lots of my damage was being reduced even when her shield was down. Kabam says they have addressed the issue, but I haven't been back in to check.

The biggest thing with KM is making the L3 count. Build to 50 bleeds, get the shield down, and make sure reverberation and true strike are both active. If you satisfy all these conditions and launch the L3, she'll take some big damage.

The other bright side to KM is the healing. I spent most of the IW fight at full health because he'd purify many of the debuffs that IW places. No potions necessary upon reviving. L1 revive and go back in. You'll be back at full health about 20 seconds into the fight. Also, Void gets regen in his fights too, so Mordo, Mephisto, and anyone else you use him for become much cheaper.

Laksh1995

Yes even 2k would be enough . I did abyss first run with 1.7k units

Horror_punk

@Horror_punk
You might struggle a bit on Invisible Woman if your Fury isn't duped. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't seen any videos of an unduped Fury taking her down. It's possible, but it may be a challenge.

Any chance you have a duped 5* Fury or a Rank 5 Killmonger?

I’ll use My Ægon with that defence mastery (fatigue) placing debuff on that invisible woman
Hopefully it’ll work i guess and get some chunk of health otherwise I’ll drop some 10-15 revives

Mirage_Turtle

I think whenever giving an estimate for how many units it will take, it's important to note the roster and the size of the stash of revives you're starting with.

For example, I got to the Collector with less than 500 units spent, but I had a large stash of revives going in. Also, I didn't have Aegon, so fighting the Collector destroyed my otherwise inexpensive run.

From what I've seen, Aegon the cheapest option for taking down the Collector by a very wide margin. No other champ comes remotely close.

King_Leo321

Is there anyone who had completed abyss can tell the estimated Units required to complete the first run??

My team:
Ægon 5/65 (Signature 180)
Symbiot Supreme 5/65 (Signature 20)
Morningstar 5/65 (Signature 100)
Void 5/65 (Signature 200)
NF 6* Rank2 (undupe)

I’m holding around 3000 units now with 20 revives in stash with some health pots.

Should i go for another 1000 units to be safe???

Personally replace Morningstar is beast.She can solo Aegon,VTD and Champion boss.But replace that's Symbiote Supreme with doom or Claire.Claire only of you run suicides

Mirage_Turtle

I'm going to venture a guess and say that MS and Sym Supreme are on the team because Doom and BWCV aren't options.

Horror_punk

Yes guys @King_Leo321 and @Mirage_Turtle i doesn’t have Doom and Clair so using these 2
Morningstar for CMM and Symbiot for other

Void gonna be useful against mystics and Joe fixit alongwith HTD

Mirage_Turtle

Yes guys @King_Leo321 and @Mirage_Turtle i doesn’t have Doom and Clair so using these 2
Morningstar for CMM and Symbiot for other

Void gonna be useful against mystics and Joe fixit alongwith HTD

Best of luck with Howard the Duck. There's definitely some RNG involved with that one. I got very lucky and had FOV and 2 Petrifies on while he triggered a regen both times. He went from 60% to 0% VERY quickly.

And I'll cross my fingers that you get a heart suit early on the Joe Fixit fight.

Agent_X_zzz

Yes you have a good roster as well as a great stash, if you have any free crystals that should be good.

StevieManWonder

Honestly, Aegon will be a lot better for that IW than unduped Fury will be. Heck, I think he's a better option than a duped Fury. I used both during my run and Aegon was a lot better than Fury. My unit spend was around 5K if I am remembering correctly.

Horror_punk

I’ve made an estimation in advance for number of revives required which is as follows:

1. Thing - 5
2. Omega Red- 3
3. Quake- 3
4. Medusa- 3
5. Mephisto - 4
6. CMM* - 15
7. Ghost - 3
8. IMIW* - 15
9. Joe fixit- 3
10. Mordo- 3
11. VTD - 4
12. HTD - 4
13. Hyperion- 4
14. Champion - 4
15. Cyclops* - 10
16. Loki - 2
17. Ægon- 2
18. Invisible Woman*- 10
19. Cull- 3
20. Collector* - 30

50+80 = 130 - 20= 110

Above analysis is on a safer side.
Is this good enough??

Horror_punk

I’ve got 20 revives in stash so that’s a minus above

allinashes

So MS and SymS can replace Doom/BWCV. Are there any champs to replace HT/Void?

H3t3r

So MS and SymS can replace Doom/BWCV. Are there any champs to replace HT/Void?

CapIW maybe?

Horror_punk

So MS and SymS can replace Doom/BWCV. Are there any champs to replace HT/Void?
CapIW maybe?

Anyone who’s immune to incinerate can do that part

Mirage_Turtle

I’ve made an estimation in advance for number of revives required which is as follows:

1. Thing - 5
2. Omega Red- 3
3. Quake- 3
4. Medusa- 3
5. Mephisto - 4
6. CMM* - 15
7. Ghost - 3
8. IMIW* - 15
9. Joe fixit- 3
10. Mordo- 3
11. VTD - 4
12. HTD - 4
13. Hyperion- 4
14. Champion - 4
15. Cyclops* - 10
16. Loki - 2
17. Ægon- 2
18. Invisible Woman*- 10
19. Cull- 3
20. Collector* - 30

50+80 = 130 - 20= 110

Above analysis is on a safer side.
Is this good enough??

If you have Void and you genuinely think IMIW is going to cost you 15 revives, I think it's in your best interest to run some practice rounds on him first. He's the first fight if you head right, so practice is cheap. You should comfortably get that number down to 5 or less without any boosts. Practice rounds will also get you familiar with his Abyssal enhancement where he drains your power every 10 hits. You'll want to be able to play around this to maximize your damage.

Keep in mind that for any fight in Abyss when using Void, the damage comes from the debuffs he places. Whenever possible, you want to parry, medium, back away. You want to stretch out Void's fights as long as possible to let the debuffs do their work. If you can get this down, it should save you 10 or more revives...400 units.

CMM can be a bit challenging without the right counter, so 15 isn't unreasonable.

Cyclops is the other one that jumps out at me. I don't know who you're planning on using, but I used Void here too. Once he got 2 petrify buffs up, it becomes a very normal fight since he won't gain any power, so you don't have to worry about his beam attacks which effectively shuts down his enhancement. After that, just parry, medium, parry, medium. Weave in an L1 when you can. It's tedious, but it's easy. You should also be able to get this one down to 5 or fewer revives.

Horror_punk

I’ve made an estimation in advance for number of revives required which is as follows:

1. Thing - 5
2. Omega Red- 3
3. Quake- 3
4. Medusa- 3
5. Mephisto - 4
6. CMM* - 15
7. Ghost - 3
8. IMIW* - 15
9. Joe fixit- 3
10. Mordo- 3
11. VTD - 4
12. HTD - 4
13. Hyperion- 4
14. Champion - 4
15. Cyclops* - 10
16. Loki - 2
17. Ægon- 2
18. Invisible Woman*- 10
19. Cull- 3
20. Collector* - 30

50+80 = 130 - 20= 110

Above analysis is on a safer side.
Is this good enough??
If you have Void and you genuinely think IMIW is going to cost you 15 revives, I think it's in your best interest to run some practice rounds on him first. He's the first fight if you head right, so practice is cheap. You should comfortably get that number down to 5 or less without any boosts. Practice rounds will also get you familiar with his Abyssal enhancement where he drains your power every 10 hits. You'll want to be able to play around this to maximize your damage.

Keep in mind that for any fight in Abyss when using Void, the damage comes from the debuffs he places. Whenever possible, you want to parry, medium, back away. You want to stretch out Void's fights as long as possible to let the debuffs do their work. If you can get this down, it should save you 10 or more revives...400 units.

CMM can be a bit challenging without the right counter, so 15 isn't unreasonable.

Cyclops is the other one that jumps out at me. I don't know who you're planning on using, but I used Void here too. Once he got 2 petrify buffs up, it becomes a very normal fight since he won't gain any power, so you don't have to worry about his beam attacks which effectively shuts down his enhancement. After that, just parry, medium, parry, medium. Weave in an L1 when you can. It's tedious, but it's easy. You should also be able to get this one down to 5 or fewer revives.

Bro I planning to using Ægon for IMIW till his 15% health then switch to Void for remaining health

Similarly, I’m planning to do whole fight of CMM with Morningstar (she got perfect block: plus regen: plus some power control too and copying fury buffs)

For cyclops I’m planning using Ægon. If he works fine then it’s ok otherwise I’ll switch to void as you mentioned

Any other advice is welcome bro to save the units being a F2P summoner

Thanks

Woozie

Hey mate, I used a very similar lineup to you and made a detailed post about it:
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/184986/abyss-initial-completion-guide-with-data-as-a-f2p-void-sym-sup-aegon-and-fury#latest

I would grind another 500-800 as i think 3.5k is the minimum for your first time, skill aside it becomes fatigue

Horror_punk

Hey mate, I used a very similar lineup to you and made a detailed post about it:
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/184986/abyss-initial-completion-guide-with-data-as-a-f2p-void-sym-sup-aegon-and-fury#latest

I would grind another 500-800 as i think 3.5k is the minimum for your first time, skill aside it becomes fatigue

Thanks pal
Just read that post and I didn’t knew about loki’s ability

Thanks for help

Woozie

Hey mate, I used a very similar lineup to you and made a detailed post about it:
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/184986/abyss-initial-completion-guide-with-data-as-a-f2p-void-sym-sup-aegon-and-fury#latest

I would grind another 500-800 as i think 3.5k is the minimum for your first time, skill aside it becomes fatigue
Thanks pal
Just read that post and I didn’t knew about loki’s ability

Thanks for help

No worries, although I think Loki is no way near as hard as some of the others there haha

Mirage_Turtle

I’ve made an estimation in advance for number of revives required which is as follows:

1. Thing - 5
2. Omega Red- 3
3. Quake- 3
4. Medusa- 3
5. Mephisto - 4
6. CMM* - 15
7. Ghost - 3
8. IMIW* - 15
9. Joe fixit- 3
10. Mordo- 3
11. VTD - 4
12. HTD - 4
13. Hyperion- 4
14. Champion - 4
15. Cyclops* - 10
16. Loki - 2
17. Ægon- 2
18. Invisible Woman*- 10
19. Cull- 3
20. Collector* - 30

50+80 = 130 - 20= 110

Above analysis is on a safer side.
Is this good enough??
If you have Void and you genuinely think IMIW is going to cost you 15 revives, I think it's in your best interest to run some practice rounds on him first. He's the first fight if you head right, so practice is cheap. You should comfortably get that number down to 5 or less without any boosts. Practice rounds will also get you familiar with his Abyssal enhancement where he drains your power every 10 hits. You'll want to be able to play around this to maximize your damage.

Keep in mind that for any fight in Abyss when using Void, the damage comes from the debuffs he places. Whenever possible, you want to parry, medium, back away. You want to stretch out Void's fights as long as possible to let the debuffs do their work. If you can get this down, it should save you 10 or more revives...400 units.

CMM can be a bit challenging without the right counter, so 15 isn't unreasonable.

Cyclops is the other one that jumps out at me. I don't know who you're planning on using, but I used Void here too. Once he got 2 petrify buffs up, it becomes a very normal fight since he won't gain any power, so you don't have to worry about his beam attacks which effectively shuts down his enhancement. After that, just parry, medium, parry, medium. Weave in an L1 when you can. It's tedious, but it's easy. You should also be able to get this one down to 5 or fewer revives.
Bro I planning to using Ægon for IMIW till his 15% health then switch to Void for remaining health

Similarly, I’m planning to do whole fight of CMM with Morningstar (she got perfect block: plus regen: plus some power control too and copying fury buffs)

For cyclops I’m planning using Ægon. If he works fine then it’s ok otherwise I’ll switch to void as you mentioned

Any other advice is welcome bro to save the units being a F2P summoner

Thanks

If you need to build up a combo on IMIW for Aegon, then maybe I could see this making sense. Otherwise, dying a bunch of times with Aegon when you have the best counter for IMIW in the game (my opinion) right in your team seems wasteful. When I took that fight, it took 2 revives, but I have a TON of experience fighting IMIW with Void and I only died when he went unstoppable.

For CMM with Morningstar, you want to hammer her block to let her build charges. She'll take big damage that way since you're a mystic champ. When she has 10 or more binary charges and your power is built up, hit her with a heavy to trigger binary ignition and then waste her with an unblockable L2. Rinse and repeat.

For Cyclops, you've got to stay pretty focused to do this fight well. You have to alternate between evading his specials and parrying them. If you feel you're 100% confident you can do this without messing up, then Aegon is a better option. However, for anyone who is looking for tips on saving units on revives, I'll 100% recommend Void for this fight. Get 2 petrifies and he never fires a special again.

Horror_punk

@Mirage_Turtle @Woozie thanks guys for your help especially @Mirage_Turtle . You guys gave effective inputs and I finished ABYSS.
Had to say VOID is real MVP (Loved that cyclops fight)

Surprisingly i pulled both Skill Awakening and T5cc and took my NF to R3
Pulled bad 5* (OG Cap) and bad 6* (Cyclops and Phoenix) but it’s ok in front of catalyst and gem.

Total units 3200 with 2 times mastery changes (Stash 20 revives)

My projection were almost correct what I posted above with some here and there.
3 fights were solo - CULL, AEGON & JOE
VOID technique didn’t worked on HTD as I got thunder shocks lol.

Thanks everyone for your insights