Dr doom And wasp

batty

Is dr doom and wasp passive stun work against stun immune ?

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

No, because it's a stun

Marvel2289

I've heard that Wasps did, but Dooms did not.

Wakandas_Finest

No neither does

SwarmOfRavens

No.
It should but that's too beneficial for the player by kabams logic

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SwarmOfRavens

Except passive dot like nova flame works on debuff immune

Cap iw and thing nullify unstoppable unless it's passive

They've always been fast and loose when it comes to passive debuffs

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SwarmOfRavens

You're running yourself through mental gymnastics
Here are facts
Nova flame is a debuff.its a passive debuff. It works on debuff immune matchups.
Doom and wasps heavys cause passive stuns. They don't work on stun immune
What reason can you give apart from inconsistency
Passive effects have always bypassed things like immunities and ability to shrug off
Cap iw shrugs off falter in 6.3 because it's active.
He doesn't shrug off falter in act 7 because it's passive.
I rather enjoy Human torch so I'll leave it at that before they give him the Morningstar treatment

SwarmOfRavens

Where did I state anything about incinerate...
I said it's a debuff and bypasses debuff immunity I'm well aware it doesn't count as an incinerate

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SwarmOfRavens

The fourth was referring to Claire, Morningstar and champion debacle
I see the logic in what you're saying. I just don't see the point inconsistency

SwarmOfRavens

Fair enough, I concede.
My idea of a debuff doesn't line up with what the game counts as one

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SwarmOfRavens

Face me has its own issues, don't see why it works on no retreat but not brute force
I get what you're saying about the rest

SwarmOfRavens

I was referring to the situation. The revisit of Morningstar because of claire . Not the interaction

And inconsistency in the game not the thread

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SwarmOfRavens

"As I said, some in-game descriptions are wonky. For example, normally the game describes "buffs" (active beneficial effects) as either "buffs", "active effects" or something along those lines. Dormammu's description however states that his sp1 removes "positive status effects"."

This is where most of my problems stemmed from. I generalized beneficial status effects as buffs and negative as debuffs Which apparently isn't how the game treats it.
Looking at it with your wording makes more sense so I'll stick to that from now.

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SwarmOfRavens

Np.
Must've been a pain having to explain it to my ignorant self but it is what it is.
Easier to understand in hindsight when you get over the wording but better now than later
Cheers

shadow_lurker22

No Wasps works on debuff immune opponents because it is passive. Dooms is passive too but doesn't work on debuff immune because the opponent has to be shocked for him to use it. Neither bypass stun immunity.

Agent_X_zzz

you are comparing too diffrent things, Passive DOT works on debuff immune because they are not a debuff, they are a massive effect. Passive stuns dont work on Stun immune because they are still a stun effect, passive or non passive if the champ is stun immune then you shouldnt be able to stun them.

SwarmOfRavens

You're a bit late,
I get it passive ≠ debuff so it still applies
Been cleared up above

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SwarmOfRavens

Do technarchs even have brains