1% is not 1 health

ThatGuy214

1% of a average 5/65 is still about 280 actual health which under current timeout rules this can be halfed. Plus add suicides and salve health can always be added once one re enters the fight. Plus more than 1 champ has cheat death mechanic. Hmmm...

Lvernon15

Yeah, it’s not a bug as they’re saying, it’s using a game mechanic, a cheese tactic

Lvernon15

His sig clearly states he CANNOT die, if him not dying is a bug then I don’t know what drugs this company is on

ItsDamien

The problem with the 1% health is that 1% covers 0.01% - roughly 1.4% (I'm assuming rounding occurs).

The problem with the Corvus time out method is that eventually he will end up at 1 health, probably a lot using that method. You can't suddenly half 1 health over and over.

Sure it's a cheese method, and in most games these things eventually get changed or addressed because it's an exploit of game mechanics.

At the same time, you just have to wait and see what Kabam has to offer in return when they eventually change this mechanic permanently. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

AydenPlays1

1% of health can still mean 1 health tho

Air98

Lvernon15 said:

His sig clearly states he CANNOT die, if him not dying is a bug then I don’t know what drugs this company is on

"Corvus Glaive cannot die" is as cut and dry as it gets. That's not a bug.

Rwj_2

In my eyes the problem isn't the whole surviving with 1% HP, that's fine. It's pausing the game to let the timer run out, let's face it that is an exploit. If you can legit survive the 3 minutes and end with 1 HP then great you deserve to not die. However if 1 minute into the fight you realize you're gonna to die so you pause that's too much cheese imo.

Plato92

And it’s not just Corvus there are others with this same mechanic as well such as Nick Fury hiemdall hela and a few others. So it isn’t bug when it their awakened ability and that allows them to survive for a timeout but y’all are saying that it wasn’t intended for that. The whole reason why we ranked up these champs was for the cheat death mechanic and now y’all are trying to take it away. This is uncalled for and y’all need to get back to banning those who are actually doing harm to this game by cheating and exploiting the game. Instead y’all are punishing us for no reason at all.

ItsDamien

Rwj_2 said:

In my eyes the problem isn't the whole surviving with 1% HP, that's fine. It's pausing the game to let the timer run out, let's face it that is an exploit. If you can legit survive the 3 minutes and end with 1 HP then great you deserve to not die. However if 1 minute into the fight you realize you're gonna to die so you pause that's too much cheese imo.

This is the exact issue.

People don't understand that this isn't a nerf to Corvus. This is a nerf to an exploit that means people don't have to risk anything to avoid a loss. People always complain that there's zero skill in the game, but there is also zero skill in pausing the game when you're about to take a loss because you screwed up somewhere and not have to worry about the effect of it.

Hammerbro_64

I would say if you time out and have less than X% left, you lose

ItsDamien

Speedro420 said:

This is another example in a long list of something that has been used since the character was released. The things affecting players take forever to fix no matter what evidence we provide. Soon as Kabam sees a thing the player base uses to beat a fight they want to make tons of revive money off of them immediately want to fix the “bug”, of which this isn’t even a bug.

You're right. It's not a bug. It's a gameplay exploit. An unintended mechanic that is being used to bypass a featured game mechanic.

Also they haven't "immediately" fixed this. People have been doing this, as many have said, since Corvus was released (apparently). People have used this for far too long and now it's being addressed.

KnightZero

ItsDamien said:

Speedro420 said:

This is another example in a long list of something that has been used since the character was released. The things affecting players take forever to fix no matter what evidence we provide. Soon as Kabam sees a thing the player base uses to beat a fight they want to make tons of revive money off of them immediately want to fix the “bug”, of which this isn’t even a bug.

You're right. It's not a bug. It's a gameplay exploit. An unintended mechanic that is being used to bypass a featured game mechanic.

Also they haven't "immediately" fixed this. People have been doing this, as many have said, since Corvus was released (apparently). People have used this for far too long and now it's being addressed.

It's using a character who is able to do it. It's making the best of a mechanic that can easily screw you over. Timeout penalizes you. AI holding specials kills you. Random block breaks kill you. When you have a revive that gives only 350 health or you have to spend units to revive, players use Cheese tactics to give them an edge. Not a Corvus user in AQ, but timeout helps other champs as well.

NOOOOOOOOPEEEEE

I genuinely want to know how them fixing Corvus's ability to avoid time out punishments is something so great of a "nerf" it warrants rank ups of him being made useless.

Treinin

I ranked up my Corvus long before I ever realized you could pause and timeout fights where you mess up. He's a fantastic champ, with or without timeouts. Can't honestly imagine that many people ranking him down. And they aren't preventing you from timing out a fight here and there (from what I saw), they are just preventing repeated time outs on 1% health.

My only surprise is how long it took them to address what was an obvious exploit of game mechanics.

World Eater

Mike192 said:

This is a well deserved fix. Ppl shouldnt be abusing the game mechanics for unfair advantage that one champion specifically provides.

Nonsense. There are plenty of times I’ve timed out with 1% without using Corvus, NF, hela, etc.. and there no reason I should punished for timing out with 1% health.

Btw, I posted the exact same thing as the OP in the main thread.

KnightZero

Mike192 said:

This is a well deserved fix. Ppl shouldnt be abusing the game mechanics for unfair advantage that one champion specifically provides.

Can use a variety of champs to your advantage with this. It's not just Corvus. It just became a big thing because it's robbing them of units used to get potions in Map 7

TheInfinty

I don’t get the arguement for those people asking for RDTS or some sort of compensation. It’s still Corvus at the end of the day he is still a absolute beast at content

GinjabredMonsta

TheTalents said:

Marvel2289 said:

TheTalents said:

When guys accept "not intended" as a reason for the morning star nerf, BWCV they opened the door for Kabam to nerf Corvus like we can't read. Cannot die is the exact intention of his awakened ability with Glaive charges are up.

MS/Claire Voyant wasn't a Nerf🤦‍♂️. We accepted not working as intended because that was a FACT.

A fact because Kabam says so or actually a fact? I don't just accept a nerf because Kabam says its okay for the game. Do you actually play map 7 before we continue this conversation, I'm not going to waste my time explaining what map7x5 is like with over tuned nodes.

That wasn't a nerf though. It was an unintentional interaction and her abilities described it as such. I see this as yet again another exploit that people ranked up a champ.for and now are upset it is planning to be fixed. The difference for this situation though is that it isn't targeting the abilities of a champion but the situation in which that champions abilities are used. That wasn't a nerf and

Zuro

I don't think I fully understand the issue here but why can't they just do if you pause the game the timer stops so you can't deliberately timeout, unless I'm missing something here

Colinwhitworth69

Lvernon15 said:

His sig clearly states he CANNOT die, if him not dying is a bug then I don’t know what drugs this company is on

During the fight, sure, but if you time out, the fight is over, and you lost.

GinjabredMonsta

Zuro said:

I don't think I fully understand the issue here but why can't they just do if you pause the game the timer stops so you can't deliberately timeout, unless I'm missing something here

that would probably be one of the better solutions in my opinion

Zuko_ILC

Zuro said:

I don't think I fully understand the issue here but why can't they just do if you pause the game the timer stops so you can't deliberately timeout, unless I'm missing something here

Because if the game glitches you could be permanently stuck in the fight and then not be able to move forward through AQ. Timeouts have to be included due to potential glitches and game freezes. Not knocking your idea just explaining that it could lead to a much bigger problem. Unfortunately with a mobile device there are way too many variables with devices that could cause this issue.

Giuliameij

The half health lost can still apply to 1 health. If you half 1 health you still keep 1 health. Because 0,5 is rounded to 1 health again. So I think, technically, NONE champ should die. However, I always thought you lose half of your TOTAL health. So without taking damage you could technically time out twice before dieing.

Aleor

Ripper4566789 said:

Air98 said:

Lvernon15 said:

His sig clearly states he CANNOT die, if him not dying is a bug then I don’t know what drugs this company is on

"Corvus Glaive cannot die" is as cut and dry as it gets. That's not a bug.

They will just change his description to immune to death above 4% health ... There solution to everything make it with for there wallet

What's the point of 4%? His sig allows him to survive any dot, like while you have charges active. If you change 1% to 2, 3, 4 or whatever, he will just go from x to 1 and then die, so you can only survive one extra tic of dot, of this tic is greater then health you have left.

Zuro

Zuko_ILC said:

Zuro said:

I don't think I fully understand the issue here but why can't they just do if you pause the game the timer stops so you can't deliberately timeout, unless I'm missing something here

Because if the game glitches you could be permanently stuck in the fight and then not be able to move forward through AQ. Timeouts have to be included due to potential glitches and game freezes. Not knocking your idea just explaining that it could lead to a much bigger problem. Unfortunately with a mobile device there are way too many variables with devices that could cause this issue.

Fair enough, I don't even fully know what is even going on right now just putting in a possible option which has been shown to have its flaws although I doubt there is much other options though that can resolve the issue

ThatGuy214

You guys are missing the bigger point if I survive a fight with one health i should be allowed to live and rejoin regardless of character being addressed if i am able to survive why should i spend a revive and pots when past practice only needed pots.

TheTalents

I see a lot of guys who play AQ casually talking really big about the Corvus ability being an exploit. If you can't state that you play map 6 or 7. Especially map 7 because I don't play map 6 at all I really don't want to hear about an exploit from you. That's GW territory.