Why no 5* wolverine, thor, scarlet witch, etc?

I have read that kabam "has no plans" on releasing those champions as 5*.

Why is that? I fail to see any understandable reason.

Is it that they will be available in the coming 5* arenas?

Comments

New_Noob168

Easy. They are too powerful and you would rule the realm with them. Wouldn't want that to happen..make it too easy and you wouldn't need to spend.

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Flazinator

Who needs those guys when we have spider Gwen?

Dpumalo

The same reason they only released good defenders as 5* originally. They would rather release strong defenders so people die in AW more often and have to buy more revives. 5* Wolverine and SW would kill enemies too quick and heal too much, eliminating the need to spend anything on potions or revives. Ignore anything Kabam says, this is the only true explanation.

Nemesio

Very sad state of affairs, so much greed?

Timone147

My bet is they are trying to avoid bringing back the same meta that dominated the first 2 years of the game. Even though they nerfed those champs after which should have made them capable of being in the 5*.

Crimson8399

Mods any comment?

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Binawayawhile

This is intended, please move on

Phantom

I see the argument that these champs are too good, but if that's why champs wouldn't be released, why do we have Star Lord?

I_am_Groot

Phantom wrote: »

I see the argument that these champs are too good, but if that's why champs wouldn't be released, why do we have Star Lord?

Because no anyone can chain a 200-hit combo.
Plus, he's not a menace if not duped. Just drops IPs and no problem.

Phantom

I_am_Groot wrote: »

Phantom wrote: »

I see the argument that these champs are too good, but if that's why champs wouldn't be released, why do we have Star Lord?

Because no anyone can chain a 200-hit combo.
Plus, he's not a menace if not duped. Just drops IPs and no problem.

1) I can chain a 200-hit combo, and I'm not that great. So don't tell me that.
2) Scarlet Witch isn't good if she's not duped, but she's not in there.

DarkestDestroyer

How can they release 6* champs when not every champ is a 5* though?

That's really bad

Thatsausage

Phantom wrote: »

I_am_Groot wrote: »

Phantom wrote: »

I see the argument that these champs are too good, but if that's why champs wouldn't be released, why do we have Star Lord?

Because no anyone can chain a 200-hit combo.
Plus, he's not a menace if not duped. Just drops IPs and no problem.

1) I can chain a 200-hit combo, and I'm not that great. So don't tell me that.
2) Scarlet Witch isn't good if she's not duped, but she's not in there.

Think what I Am Groot meant was that not everyone can pull off 200+ hit combos. Newer players just dont start off with that skill set.
Imo, I do believe this a further attempt to make Switch, Thor, and Wolverine irrevant in the competition. Despite some nerfing, SW and Thor are quite useful but that'll fade when 6*s are available.

Phantom

Thatsausage wrote: »

Phantom wrote: »

I_am_Groot wrote: »

Phantom wrote: »

I see the argument that these champs are too good, but if that's why champs wouldn't be released, why do we have Star Lord?

Because no anyone can chain a 200-hit combo.
Plus, he's not a menace if not duped. Just drops IPs and no problem.

1) I can chain a 200-hit combo, and I'm not that great. So don't tell me that.
2) Scarlet Witch isn't good if she's not duped, but she's not in there.

Think what I Am Groot meant was that not everyone can pull off 200+ hit combos. Newer players just dont start off with that skill set.
Imo, I do believe this a further attempt to make Switch, Thor, and Wolverine irrevant in the competition. Despite some nerfing, SW and Thor are quite useful but that'll fade when 6*s are available.

I know that's what he meant. Not everyone can, but many can. I can, even though I'm not that great.

Milkthewhales

Another problem is that these are some of the most iconic marvel characters. I mean this is a marvel game and yet we have no strange, wolvie, thor etc.. in the top star bracket yet we get nobodies like Hood!?

For me this game is losing relevance as a Marvel game unless they start addressing that fast.

I mean those are literally some of my favourite marvel characters of all time and going to become irrelevant with 6*. If they don't appear I'm probably done as I simply don't identify with what feels like half the 5* roster never mind 6*.

Nemesio

Milkthewhales wrote: »

Another problem is that these are some of the most iconic marvel characters. I mean this is a marvel game and yet we have no strange, wolvie, thor etc.. in the top star bracket yet we get nobodies like Hood!?

For me this game is losing relevance as a Marvel game unless they start addressing that fast.

I mean those are literally some of my favourite marvel characters of all time and going to become irrelevant with 6*. If they don't appear I'm probably done as I simply don't identify with what feels like half the 5* roster never mind 6*.

My thoughts also

_LivingDeadGirl

If you look at who does get a 5* version and who doesn't it becomes more obvious. Gamora is a great example. Any champion that can cause astronomical damage with a special attack already as a 4* will not get a 5*.

Aside from obvious attack/health increases also remember that crit rates and crit damage only get higher when you rank up. A 5* rank 4 SW with the right masteries and sig level set up would easily kill anything in under 15 hits. Same for thor.

Wolverine I don't quite get because we have x-23. They're nearly identical but 23 is the stronger bleeder while wolverine has the stronger base damage and health.

So other top tier champs that did get a 5* have it because they don't have the ability to deal out 30k damage in 1 special or a 10 hit combo. You don't see a 5* pheonix for this very reason.

cranky

There is a 5☆ Phoenix available. I know a few with her.

Bendy

That's the thing wolvie isn't strong when undup all he does is bleed and regen undup his dup on other hand is strong since u get over 300 regen a second but either way he is weak in health and attack so he should be aloud a 5 star version

weavile

They make a box of champion that's too strong for 5* long ago and never bother to update it. I imagine there is a guy at Kabam HQ that said every month: should we put Thor in 5*, we already put Hyperion in there and everyone just laugh: there co silly John and his daily dose of drug.

Square

Thank God we got she hulk

Nemesio

_LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

If you look at who does get a 5* version and who doesn't it becomes more obvious. Gamora is a great example. Any champion that can cause astronomical damage with a special attack already as a 4* will not get a 5*.

Aside from obvious attack/health increases also remember that crit rates and crit damage only get higher when you rank up. A 5* rank 4 SW with the right masteries and sig level set up would easily kill anything in under 15 hits. Same for thor.

Wolverine I don't quite get because we have x-23. They're nearly identical but 23 is the stronger bleeder while wolverine has the stronger base damage and health.

So other top tier champs that did get a 5* have it because they don't have the ability to deal out 30k damage in 1 special or a 10 hit combo. You don't see a 5* pheonix for this very reason.

Hyperion disagrees with your statement.
PD: 5* IS available from the 15k subfeatured pool.

Awesomeness44

I don't see why they have GP and DV as 5* but no wolverine

HoidCosmere

Maybe the plan is to release all the champs that are not available as 5-stars as the first group of 6-stars. Which will basically be what their "too-powerful to be 5-stars" would have been.

Of course then Joe Fixit would be the first 6-star everyone pulls.

myPUNCAKE

Maybe because with the introduction of 6*s, 4* champs will soon be irrelevant meaning that those champs will fade out of the picture because they were the old gods?

Jon8299

The image of all the current champs and missing ones looks to be just about filled. 3 more months to go, 6 more champs left and 2 champs per month.

Looks like January will be the beginning for revamping old champs, first with 6* then maybe with making all the 4* into 5* or releasing the non 5* as 6* first.

the6th

level based signatures, just imagine this champ are beast with lvl99 sig and 5* has lvl200! Even abomination can be deadly

Nemesio

Can a moderador answer this?

Drummer829

Maybe they plan on releasing these champs when 6*s come out. 5* Wolvy, Thor, and SW won't be as overpowered when you can get a mediocre 6* champ that has better base damage and health.