they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo. I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement. https://youtu.be/UiQxvupDbdsCan be done with literally anyone. Thank you for correcting me. I'm still skeptical about Crossbone/Guilly 2099 against the GM, though.I redact my statement. Both the Champion and GM are solo-able with anyone. I mean... If by "solo-able" you mean "100% hypothetical and 100% dependent on ai-behavior", sure the champion is solo-able with anyone.However, that's not what people mean.When they say "you can solo the grandmaster with anyone" they mean you can pick any champ regardless of their individual abilities and simply play well and win the fight.When they say "you need at least one of the few available counters to beat the champion" they mean that you need some way to handle his abilities otherwise you'll at some point end up in the corner against an unstoppable beast of a champ merely being able to say "byebye".And soloing the champion is still a massive accomplishment even with the best counters.Either way this is not about what is hypothetically doable, this is about what has been shown to be doable by the community.People didn't read through the grandmasters abilities and figure "I think I could do that with cyclops". They actually did it.I don't believe people simply didn't come up with the idea to try out cyclops of superior iron man against the 6.2. champion. They simply understand that that wouldn't work. That's what I meant by "I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement."I agree that the Champion has less counters than the GM fight.My whole "the Champion can be solo'd with anyone" shtick was just to correct someone that commented before me. Do I believe that the Champion is harder than the GM? Yes. Do I think it should be toned down? Yes. But, you can't say that it's impossible to solo the Champion fight with "literally anyone". It's possible.I'm not saying that the Champion fight is easy. Far from that. It was simply a remark towards another individual, who's statement was false.Context.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo. I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement. https://youtu.be/UiQxvupDbdsCan be done with literally anyone. Thank you for correcting me. I'm still skeptical about Crossbone/Guilly 2099 against the GM, though.I redact my statement. Both the Champion and GM are solo-able with anyone. I mean... If by "solo-able" you mean "100% hypothetical and 100% dependent on ai-behavior", sure the champion is solo-able with anyone.However, that's not what people mean.When they say "you can solo the grandmaster with anyone" they mean you can pick any champ regardless of their individual abilities and simply play well and win the fight.When they say "you need at least one of the few available counters to beat the champion" they mean that you need some way to handle his abilities otherwise you'll at some point end up in the corner against an unstoppable beast of a champ merely being able to say "byebye".And soloing the champion is still a massive accomplishment even with the best counters.Either way this is not about what is hypothetically doable, this is about what has been shown to be doable by the community.People didn't read through the grandmasters abilities and figure "I think I could do that with cyclops". They actually did it.I don't believe people simply didn't come up with the idea to try out cyclops of superior iron man against the 6.2. champion. They simply understand that that wouldn't work.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo. I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement. https://youtu.be/UiQxvupDbdsCan be done with literally anyone. Thank you for correcting me. I'm still skeptical about Crossbone/Guilly 2099 against the GM, though.I redact my statement. Both the Champion and GM are solo-able with anyone.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo. I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement. https://youtu.be/UiQxvupDbdsCan be done with literally anyone.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo. I understand that. I was just correcting the individual I quoted. He/she said that "the fight can be done with literally anyone". That, although true, also holds true to the Champion. If they wanted to say that the GM could be defeated more easily, and with more "counters" than the Champion, realistically speaking, then he/she should have said that, instead of making a vague, and false, statement.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects. Theoretically yes, if you manage to play absolutely perfectly and have the AI be incredibly passive during his Unstoppable phase to the point where he just stops attacking and stays perfectly still, yes any champ can beat him. Realistically, there are around 11 counters plus the newer champs like Red Guardian, Sorcerer Supreme, and Mojo.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that. Actually, the Champion can theoretically be solo'd by any champion (to the extent of my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong), while the Grandmaster cannot be solo'd by all champions, such as champions who lack crits and DOT effects.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn That fight can be done with literary anyone unlike the champion. Besides having to have the right counters, you have learn a very useless skill that won't help you anywhere else. Also the champion has even more nodes on top of all that.
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering. Why should you have to block, dex, or eat the Grandmasters sp1 to get tokens? Bc it's the design of the fight. It's a skill that players need to learn to beat it and I don't see anyone complaining about the Grandmaster. They're not complaining bc it's much easier to learn
they should change the final 10%. Why should you have to dex the chamion's specials to deal damage. the specials are very close and it varies from champion to champion. It takes a lot of time and practice to get the right timing to even count as a dex. Additionally it is one of the most useless skills to have outside of 6.2.6 where else will you have to dex the champion's specials. I think that kabam should change it to something else that can help you outside of 6.2.6 like intercepting or heavy countering.
However, you of course switched the main topic of argument which was about SOLOing a fight. If I can SOLO a fight with no other champ or item helping me on my road to victory, then whatever champ I used is a counter to that fight. Thank you. So that makes every single character in the game a counter to every other character? Yeah, that's not how counters work, sweetie.
However, you of course switched the main topic of argument which was about SOLOing a fight. If I can SOLO a fight with no other champ or item helping me on my road to victory, then whatever champ I used is a counter to that fight. Thank you.
Due to the regeneration and the amount of dexing you have to do more than 90% of champions can't beat the Champion boss. Its a waste of time to argue it. Kabam will nerf the fight whether people like it or not. Its holding players back and it will get nerfed. Its weird to care unless they don't give compensation.
Due to the regeneration and the amount of dexing you have to do more than 90% of champions can't beat the Champion boss. Its a waste of time to argue it. Kabam will nerf the fight whether people like it or not. Its holding players back and it will get nerfed. Its weird to care unless they don't give compensation. Not sure I'd go quite as high as 90%. You really don't think there are 15-20 that can do it? I can think of at least 17 off the top of my head. Will most of them solo? Probably not but they can get it down.I don't personally care if it gets changed. I don't care if they give out compensation or not. That doesn't change the fact that I don't think it's near as hard as people like to act like it is.
Due to the regeneration and the amount of dexing you have to do more than 90% of champions can't beat the Champion boss. Its a waste of time to argue it. Kabam will nerf the fight whether people like it or not. Its holding players back and it will get nerfed. Its weird to care unless they don't give compensation. Not sure I'd go quite as high as 90%. You really don't think there are 15-20 that can do it? I can think of at least 17 off the top of my head. Will most of them solo? Probably not but they can get it down.I don't personally care if it gets changed. I don't care if they give out compensation or not. That doesn't change the fact that I don't think it's near as hard as people like to act like it is. I probably wouldn’t think it’s very hard either if I had your roster. Lol just sayin...
I would rather see them address 5* champ acquisition than making severe changes to content personally but that's just me
Due to the regeneration and the amount of dexing you have to do more than 90% of champions can't beat the Champion boss. Its a waste of time to argue it. Kabam will nerf the fight whether people like it or not. Its holding players back and it will get nerfed. Its weird to care unless they don't give compensation. Not sure I'd go quite as high as 90%. You really don't think there are 15-20 that can do it? I can think of at least 17 off the top of my head. Will most of them solo? Probably not but they can get it down.I don't personally care if it gets changed. I don't care if they give out compensation or not. That doesn't change the fact that I don't think it's near as hard as people like to act like it is. When I say 90% of champions I mean who can 100% 6.2.6 initial clear is relatively easy. This has never just been about initial clear. Name 17 champions that are no retreat viable. I'll be waiting forever to get that answer. My solution is simple. Just give the champion 1 indestructible charge. You demostrate the same skill but you don't have to do it 5 times. Happy medium. But I guarantee people will have issues with that even though they say its about the skill lol.
Due to the regeneration and the amount of dexing you have to do more than 90% of champions can't beat the Champion boss. Its a waste of time to argue it. Kabam will nerf the fight whether people like it or not. Its holding players back and it will get nerfed. Its weird to care unless they don't give compensation. Not sure I'd go quite as high as 90%. You really don't think there are 15-20 that can do it? I can think of at least 17 off the top of my head. Will most of them solo? Probably not but they can get it down.I don't personally care if it gets changed. I don't care if they give out compensation or not. That doesn't change the fact that I don't think it's near as hard as people like to act like it is. When I say 90% of champions I mean who can 100% 6.2.6 initial clear is relatively easy. This has never just been about initial clear. Name 17 champions that are no retreat viable. I'll be waiting forever to get that answer. My solution is simple. Just give the champion 1 indestructible charge. You demostrate the same skill but you don't have to do it 5 times. Happy medium. But I guarantee people will have issues with that even though they say its about the skill lol. You could trip and fall into getting one charge off. Being able to do it consistently is the skill.I've never argued with you that no retreat is probably too much for a lot of players. I'd gladly see it removed and have said so multiple times. For a group a people that are always asking for skill to be rewarded, they sure do seem to have a problem with it being required.
I’m sick Of hearing about ‘block’ damage and high attack rating!!!! Stop blocking and intercept, basic skills that are needed.This is end game content! Don’t disagree there, but the 6.2.6 champion is the discussion here. And you’re gonna take block damage in this fight. There’s almost no way around it. Nobody at the point of 6.2 is just standing there the entire time letting the AI combo into their block. Where is the block damage you have to take? Are you referring to getting the dex off his specials? Bc you don't have to take any block damage from that at all, you just bait his sp1, back up, wait for the 2nd to last hit, dash back in, then dex the last hit, go back in for a combo, and repeat until you get 5.
I’m sick Of hearing about ‘block’ damage and high attack rating!!!! Stop blocking and intercept, basic skills that are needed.This is end game content! Don’t disagree there, but the 6.2.6 champion is the discussion here. And you’re gonna take block damage in this fight. There’s almost no way around it. Nobody at the point of 6.2 is just standing there the entire time letting the AI combo into their block.
I’m sick Of hearing about ‘block’ damage and high attack rating!!!! Stop blocking and intercept, basic skills that are needed.This is end game content!