Abyss Rewards Update [Merged Threads]

ForumName123

And you wonder why people are leaving the game. Or maybe you don't....

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Aquavenom

@Kabam Miike How will it be claimed for those who did 100% already? Will it be a message or will it just pop up? And what will be the expiry date on the massage if there is one cause a lot of people would like to save it for 4th of July.

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Samuel030s

People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.

Doomsfist79

Hi There,
Just a quick question. With this change, does that mean those who finished before the 25th end up with more rewards as they get the 15k 6* shards AND the selector.. or are you some how removing the 15k 6* shards from those who completed already.

I find it a little strange that those who finished before the 25th get more rewards than those coming afterward.. unless the overall difficulty has also been changed and just hasn't been mentioned yet..

Also, in the initial statement about the abyss exploration rewards.. there was only mention of adding to them.. nothing said about reducing them as well..

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Worknprogress

All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
The company have all the right to change content, if they think it needs to. But also is obliged to do it FAIR. How fair is future abyss players get reduced rewards (-15k 6* shards) for the same effort?

No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged.

There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
That's why there was an outcry after most of those issues. And the way they handled all of them has been a mistake. Doesn't make sense that people who want to wait to do content or can't do it at that time should be penalized. No more than it should that people who have done the content before when it was bugged should not get compensation.

And I agree that I don't see a ton of point in removing shards at all. Still, sometimes life just isn't fair.

This is still easily a net positive change. I really wish people had the chance to open their t5c crystals first but it's not like it was my decision to make. At least this way people can target a specific champ they want and will eventually get that t5c regardless of it being directly after finishing abyss or not.

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KnightZero

People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.

15k shards. Not 5. Since the people who have finished Abyss are getting the crystal as well, which is fair. Nothing wrong about that

Greekhit

No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged.
There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.

Do these unfair situations justify another unfair decision?
I can’t see the logic behind that. It’s like saying “ it was always done unfair, why should be done fair now?”

GroundedWisdom

Hi There,
Just a quick question. With this change, does that mean those who finished before the 25th end up with more rewards as they get the 15k 6* shards AND the selector.. or are you some how removing the 15k 6* shards from those who completed already.

I find it a little strange that those who finished before the 25th get more rewards than those coming afterward.. unless the overall difficulty has also been changed and just hasn't been mentioned yet..

Also, in the initial statement about the abyss exploration rewards.. there was only mention of adding to them.. nothing said about reducing them as well..

They're not removing any from those that have completed it, I assume. They couldn't likely because they've been opened. Those going forward will get 30k, but with the added bonus of the Selector Crystal. Fair trade-off.

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Worknprogress

If anyone wants my Agent Venom, KG, or Mephisto I got from my extra 15k shards, you're more than welcome to them

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Gamer

If anyone wants my Agent Venom, KG, or Mephisto I got from my extra 15k shards, you're more than welcome to them

Yes giv me theme I’m like to collect champions

GroundedWisdom

Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
That is absolutly unfair.
You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

That is ridicilous!

For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.

StevieManWonder

Seriously, what is the point of not letting us open the t5cc crystals first? And why take away the 15k shards? It seems like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with Kabam.

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NOOOOOOOOPEEEEE

One thing I think needs to be a take away from this is to allow us to open Selectors items in our own time. It's ridiculous that right when we get one we are forced to choose something out of it. I'm genuinely surprised this hasn't been a QoL fix yet as that's been a constant complaint about them since their release.

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KnightZero

Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
That is absolutly unfair.
You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

That is ridicilous!
For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.

Read the post. Older players are getting it as well. Which they should. But newer folks shouldn't have reduced rewards.

If anyone wants my Agent Venom, KG, or Mephisto I got from my extra 15k shards, you're more than welcome to them

Out there, someone must have pulled a Covus/HT/Domino etc from the same shards. Plus extra arena body.

GroundedWisdom

Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
That is absolutly unfair.
You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

That is ridicilous!
For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot

If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.

loader187

So does everyone that completed the Abyss keep the 15k shards and get the new crystal? If so than why would that entice any of us to now Explore The Abyss when the initial people get more rewards.

Doomsfist79

People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.

Just fyi 45k-30k = 15k.. so not 5k difference.. but 15k difference.. They specifically stated this difference in the announcement on the forums.. maybe you haven't read it..

Stagedear85

hello @Kabam Miike quick question will these champs be unique or champs thats currenly in the base pool as 6 stars

KnightZero

Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
That is absolutly unfair.
You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

That is ridicilous!
For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.

How can you choose your T5cc?

Samuel030s

So does everyone that completed the Abyss keep the 15k shards and get the new crystal? If so than why would that entice any of us to now Explore The Abyss when the initial people get more rewards.

Because... you're still getting 4 6-Star Champions?
Along with the other rewards. Those who explored the Abyss did it without knowing they'd get these updated rewards.

Mauled

Honestly, I think it’s pretty cool - you’ve got to be pretty unlucky to not get something you can use in 10 rolls of the dice. Whether they’re R2 or even R3 worthy is a different matter.

I did assume that a T5CC selector would be coming, however. I would say 99% of people who 100% AoL have a champ they want to R3 in a couple of classes but probably not all 6. That was the only real way to guarantee immediate use out of AoL. There will be people who get that crystal and find themselves with a choice between Groot, Rhino, Cable, Xforce, Hulk, Civil Warrior, Abomination, Daredevil etc.

The real question regarding this crystal I’d like to know, however is will all 10 rolls be different? Eg I won’t see 2 Cables in the reel.

5/10, would have been so easy to make it a 10/10 though.

Zuko_ILC

Underwhelming yet again....